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Update: N.C. to recommend money for sterilization victims

Monday, January 9, 2012
(Updated 3:57 pm)

RALEIGH (AP) — A North Carolina panel is tasked with answering a question that has not been answered before and seems to not have one: How do you repay people for taking away their ability to have children?

The state's Eugenics Compensation Task Force is the first in the nation to tackle that question and is set Tuesday to recommend how much to pay victims of forced sterilization, along with whether the victims' descendants are eligible for the money.

"If we all agree that there is no amount that restores somebody's loss of ability to procreate, then it's understood that the ultimate figure is an attempt to put out an active apology instead of a verbal apology," said task force member Demetrius Worley Berry, a Greensboro attorney. "This is not an attempt to compensate, repair or restore what happened years ago."

State officials sterilized more than 7,600 people in North Carolina from 1929 to 1974 under eugenics programs, which at the time were said to be aimed at creating a better society by weeding out people such as criminals and mentally disabled people considered undesirable.

The panel has discussed amounts between $20,000 and $50,000 a person. At the panel's meeting last month, Berry suggested paying $20,000 to living victims. Chairwoman Laura Gerald said she wanted to consider a higher amount.

Victims reacted angrily, saying they deserved more money, and descendants argued the estates of victims who have since died also should be paid. Some have suggested as much as $1 million per victim.

"I think that what they're doing is unfair, and I think that they're looking at North Carolina in a cheap way," said Delores Marks, 60, of Durham. "And I think they're just trying to have something to present so that they'll go ahead and approve it and get it out of the way."

Her mother, Margaret Helen Cheek, was diagnosed with schizophrenia and sterilized in 1965 after having three children. Clay believes her mother, who died of a stroke in February 1978, suffered only from post-partum depression.

The legislature would have to approve any compensation to victims, of which 1,500 to 2,000 the task force has said are believed to be alive. Officials have found 48 of them so far.

Even payments of $20,000 apiece for only 1,500 surviving victims would total $30 million, an amount that could be tough to come up with in a state that has had to trim millions from its budget in recent years. If victims and their descendants were to get $1 million per victim, as some have suggested, the payments could total billions of dollars.

Many states ended their eugenics programs because of associations with Nazi Germany's program aimed at racial purity, but North Carolina in fact ramped up sterilizations after World War II. The state's sterilizations peaked in the 1950s, with about 70 percent of all sterilizations performed after the war, according to state records. The program didn't officially end until 1977. It is one of about a half-dozen states to apologize for eugenics programs.

Most victims were poor, black women deemed unfit to be parents. People as young as 10 were sterilized for reasons as minor as not getting along with schoolmates or being promiscuous. Although officials obtained consent from patients or their guardians, many did not comprehend what they were signing.

There are more than 60,000 victims of forced sterilization in the U.S., and though several states have apologized for such programs, North Carolina would be the first to compensate victims.

The state could supplement any compensation with a lifetime break from paying state income taxes, said Daren Bakst, director of legal and regulatory studies at the John Locke Foundation, a conservative-leaning think tank.

He supports the $20,000 figure, noting that it's the same compensation paid to living victims of Japanese internment camps. He also said compensation should be paid only to living victims, not descendants.

"Where do you draw the line?" he said. "Just as a logistical matter for the state, it would be impossible to figure out which descendants should be compensated and which shouldn't."

Still, Bakst said, compensation amounts to more than a mere apology.

"An apology is words," he said. "Giving money and benefits is going beyond the apology and taking real action and showing North Carolina can learn the lesson of its unfortunate history when it comes to this issue."

Victims will propose their own recommendations Tuesday, said Marks, who suggested $1 million and said victims shouldn't accept less than $250,000.

Berry, one of the board members, acknowledged "most of the victims feel that $20,000 or $50,000 is a slap in the face." But he said he is basing that amount on what would realistically be approved by the legislature.

Elaine Riddick, who was 14 when the state eugenics board ordered her sterilization, has railed against the compensation amounts proposed so far and called the task force "a new face of the eugenics board." Riddick had given birth after being raped.

She sued the state in the 1970s, seeking $1 million, and said that figure should increase with time.

"They took away my right to be a complete woman," she said. "What do you think it is worth?"

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Dman94

January 9, 2012 - 10:41 am EST

This program is/was reprehensible. However, in the tough budget times that NC and all other States and the nation are facing, I see this as a complete no win situation. Where will NC get the money to make these proposed payments? And to pay someone $20-$50k during this economic depression is just plain stupid!

How can anyone believe that now is the time to even talk about something like this? What is this, another economic stimulus plan, just on the state level?!

These people need to get real!!!

speakup2

January 9, 2012 - 11:31 am EST

I expect any of those folks from that time still alive have collected far more than 20K from the Government.

itsjustron

January 9, 2012 - 11:49 am EST

that comment there is a little cold hearted.

speakup2

January 9, 2012 - 2:35 pm EST

Yes but never the less it IS TRUE.

itsjustron

January 9, 2012 - 2:53 pm EST

I assume, by the basis of your comment, that your assuming that all of these folks were/ are part of the welfare system etc because of being poor / disadvantaged.. IF that is what your assuming, then I assume you have data to back it up?

luvmylabs

January 9, 2012 - 12:08 pm EST

So as an actual taxpayer, why should the stsate of NC steal my hard earned money from me and give it to someone else when I had absoultely nothing to do with any of this?
This all happened long before I lived in this state and most of it wa before I was even born!
I work hard and I am tired of this state stealing what I work for and giving it to someone else!!!

Dman94

January 9, 2012 - 12:32 pm EST

lml, as noted, I am NOT in favor of this for the noted reasons, among many. However, if you are under 35 years of age, then you were alive while this program was still in affect.

For me, it is not about the state "stealing" my worked for monies, rather it is about using monies irrationally in a time where rationale is not a standard practice.

And there are a number of these people still alive.

Let's look at the rationale of not spending monies rationally instead of talking about the State "stealing/taking" one's earned money. Actually, taxes basically are given if one works, etc.

So remember, either pay with the money when required or pay up when caught; it is the choice of the individual.

demarisinyamouth

January 10, 2012 - 8:36 am EST

You're no different from the guy who pays taxes that go to paying legislators yearly salary even though they work only half of the year and the person never voted for any of them. And the guy whose taxes pay for schools and he has NO children. And the person whose taxes go to improving the highways and roads and this person doesn't even own a car. I don't see anything about anyone having to pay additional taxes over this case, so stop whining. If you don't like it, there are plenty of other states in the US, so pick one and move there.

rooster8786

January 9, 2012 - 3:24 pm EST

Why is it that when a group says "there's not enough money to compensate me for how I was wronged" they are then so easily able to come up with a number when asked or they think there is a pot of gold?

johnodrake

January 9, 2012 - 3:37 pm EST

The "program" was reprehensible but money will not make it go away. Money is a way for politicians to feel good about themselves. It is easy when it is not their money. If they want to feel good, take up a collection in the capitol building (hint - they wouldn't get much)

b-logical

January 9, 2012 - 4:18 pm EST

Another GovernMINT screw up that WE (the taxpayers) are expected to pay for. Why? I would NEVER have allowed any of this to happen - it was wrong on sooo many levels. But we (the taxpayers) were not given a choice. We are just suppose to clean up after their idiots decisions AGAIN. And yet - there are still people who think BIG BIG governMINT is the solution. I say UNCHANGE it ALL........

goodtoknow

January 9, 2012 - 5:25 pm EST

Question........Who is N.C.? Who is making this decision for us?

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