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N.C. lawmakers override another Perdue veto

Thursday, January 5, 2012
(Updated 10:36 am)

— House Republicans used a hastily called 12:45 a.m. session Thursday to override a gubernatorial veto and score a political victory against the state’s teacher’s union.

The action outraged Democrats, who said neither they nor voters had official notice of the session until close to midnight on Wednesday.

“I’ve never seen anything like this,” said Sen. Martin Nesbitt, a Democrat who tried to help his House colleagues stave off the late-night veto override.

The measure in question strips the N.C. Association of Educators, a 60,000-member group that functions similarly to a teacher’s union, of their “dues check off” privilege. Under current rules, school systems will take money for dues from NCAE members’ paychecks and transmit it directly to the organization. This is a practical boon to an organization that would otherwise have to collect thousands of checks every month.

Senators had voted to override Perdue's veto in July but House members could not muster the votes until today.

Under the bill that will now become law despite the governor’s veto, NCAE no longer has that ability, making it harder for the teacher's group to operate. However, other state worker groups retained the right, including the State Employees Association of North Carolina.

"I urge our members to take politics out of the classroom," said Rep. Paul "Skip" Stam, the Republican majority leader. He said the legislature was merely taking away a special privilege, not something that was a right. 

Democrats countered that the bill was a political one, aimed at settling scores with an organization that had opposed Republicans during the election and during the summer's budget votes.

“This session was a sham and a shame,” said Rep. Rick Glazier, a Fayetteville Democrat. “It was of no value to the citizens of this state, continues a path of demoralizing professionals in public education … and in the end really does little but seriously harm the institutional integrity of the House of Representatives and the confidence people have in their government.”

Republicans said they were well within their rights to pursue the early morning session and that nobody should have been surprised by the actions.

“Everybody knows that any time we come into a general session, that those matters are on the calendar and that this should be a learning experience,” House Speaker Thom Tillis.

But in fact, when lawmakers returned to Raleigh on Wednesday, they were not anticipating a “general session.”

• • •

Lawmakers had been called back to Raleigh on Wednesday to handle a veto override on a completely separate bill.

In 2009, the General Assembly passed the Racial Justice Act, which allows death row inmates to challenge their conviction with statistical evidence of racial bias. At the time, Democrats controlled both the House and Senate.

When Republicans took control of the General Assembly in January of 2011, repealing the Racial Justice Act was a goal, if not a top priority. The Senate put the finishing touches on a repeal measure in early December.

Gov. Bev Perdue, a Democrat who signed the original bill into law, vetoed the repeal measure. Lawmakers were called back to a “reconvened session”  Wednesday to decide whether to override her veto.

In order to win an override vote, each chamber needs a supermajority of three-fifths of those present and voting.

The vote was never in doubt in the Senate, which voted along party lines, 31-19, to override.

By contrast, the House vote was a dicey proposition all day.

Republican leaders maneuvered to find the votes they needed to accomplish the veto, but gave up shortly after 7 p.m. In stead, House leaders referred the racial justice bill to a Judiciary Committee and appointed a special working group to look at potential to the still-standing Racial Justice Act. Those two actions were an admission that the GOP didn't have the votes to accomplish the override.

Two conservative Democrats, Reps. William Brisson of Dublin and Jim Crawford of Oxford, brokered the deal with Republicans to send the measure back to committee.

“It’s not something that’s going to be a quick thing and a quick fix,” Brisson said. He added that the working group may be able to find ideas that satisfy both Democrats concerns about unequal use of the death penalty and worries by District Attorneys and victims’ families that convicted murderers might go free under the law.

Brisson didn’t specify how he convinced Republicans to back off the Racial Justice Act Wednesday night, when two more GOP members were on their way to Raleigh and could have delivered the winning votes.

However, he and Crawford were the only two Democrats to vote with Republicans on the override of the NCAE check off bill.

Brian Lewis, a lobbyist for the teacher’s group, says Brisson told him he traded the delay on the racial justice bill for a vote on the dues check off legislation.

Tillis denied Republicans cut such as a deal, and staff members for the speaker dismissed the claim as “ridiculous.”

• • •

As late as 11 p.m., there was a still a great deal of confusion and speculation as to what the Republican-lead House might want to take up instead of the Racial Justice Act and how they might legally do anything else.

The state constitution says that when the governor recalls the General Assembly to consider a veto, lawmakers “may only consider such bills as were returned by the Governor.”

House Republicans got around that strict limit on what could be heard by passing an adjournment resolution that called for a new special session to begin at 12:45 a.m. Thursday morning.

A resolution, House leaders said, is not the same as a bill that is destined to become a general statute.

The Senate also needed to vote for that resolution for it to take effect. While members in that chamber agreed to let the House move forward with its bills, Republican Senate leaders refused to take up any more business of their own.

According to the head of the legislature’s bill drafting division, there is precedent for lawmakers to tweak adjournment resolutions during reconvened veto sessions.

However, Democrats argued that the circumstances in those cases were different and neither had the effect of allowing the General Assembly to take up measures with no notice.

Lewis vowed that NCAE would take the newly enacted law to court, claiming the procedures used to pass it were unconstitutional.

“It is absurd to say that any of us standing back here as members, or of the public could have thought these other veto overrides could be coming forward … this morning at 1 a.m.,” said Rep. Paul Luebke, a Durham Democrat.

In fact, before lawmakers adjourned their early morning session, they were told two other matters might come up.

  •  Talking points on S 709, the Energy Jobs Act, were placed on all members desks prior to the 12:45 a.m. session. That measure would push the state toward allowing off-shore energy exploration as well as fracking, a way of extracting natural gas on land.

    Proponents of the bill says the state needs to create jobs by exploiting its energy resources. Opponents of the measure say that the environmental harm done by drilling would offset any economic benefits. Senators had already voted to override Perdue's veto of this bill but House Republicans have thus far been unable to muster the votes.
     
  •  Lawmakers were also preparing to debate a bill that would require voters to show photo identification at the polls. This has been a key legislative priority for Republicans, who say the state needs to do more to secure its elections. Democrats say a photo ID requirement would disenfranchise many poor and minority voters. Again, the senate has already voted to override Perdue's veto but House Republicans have never gotten the votes needed to pass it. 

“If they could have done more, they would have done more. Believe me,” said Rep. Larry Hall, a Durham Democrat. He said Republicans would have pressed their advantage if they could have rounded up enough Democrats to support the other veto overrides. 

But Tillis said that just because House leaders didn’t call for votes on the issue doesn’t mean they couldn’t have won them.

“I don’t think you should necessarily assume that,” Tillis said.

• • •

So why single out NCAE?

The teachers group has used their organization’s funding and membership to oppose House Republicans both during the 2010 elections and when the General Assembly convened in 2011. In particular, the group worked to pressure five Democrats who sided with Republicans on the state budget to flip their votes. It was particularly vocal about cuts to education funding.

During a House Republican Caucus meeting, which would normally be secret but was accidentally broadcast to the state legislative press room in June, Tillis made clear that the check off bill was constructed to punish the teacher’s group.

“The reason we’ve decided to do that is the NCAE has gone into all five districts with mailers hammering these Democrats,” Tillis said. “We just want to give them a little taste about what’s to come.”

Lewis said he was told by House Republicans that its group had become a target because of its political advocacy.

“The Republicans in the General Assembly didn’t have the votes to get what they wanted legally," Perdue said in a written statement. "So, in the dark of night, they engaged in an unprecedented, unconstitutional power grab. I am saddened for the people of North Carolina that the Republicans abused their power and chose this destructive path.”

• • •

Democrats complained that Republican House leaders were taking advantage of the absence of key Democratic lawmakers due to illness.

For example, his House colleagues reported that Rep. Larry Womble, a Winston-Salem Democrat, is in a coma or near-coma-state following a car accident in late December. And Rep. William Wainwright, a Havelock Democrat, was forced to leave the legislative building due to illness.

Tillis said those absences didn’t matter because they were, in part, offset by the absence of Rep. Rick Killian, a Charlotte Republican who is serving in the military overseas.

And in fact, Republicans would have needed 69 votes whether Wainwright was able to make the session or not.

However, they did benefit from Gov. Bev Perdue’s appointment of Rep. Trudi Walend to fill the term of Rep. David Guice, who left the legislature to work as the head of the state’s probation and parole agency.

In fact, it was a scuffle over Walend’s appointment that promised to be the political story of the day before the House’s late-nigh shenanigans.

On Monday, a committee of Republican officials in Henderson, Polk and Transylvania counties selected Walend, a former representative, to fill Guice’s term.

Under state law, Perdue must accept that recommendation and make the appointment, but she had seven days. As of Wednesday morning, she had not yet signed the paperwork appointing Walend.

This sparked outrage among Republicans, who accused Perdue of political brinkmanship and depriving voters of their proper representation. Some thought Walend might have provided the crucial vote that would allow the House to override Perdue on the racial justice bill.

GOP leaders dismissed assertions by Perdue’s office that she could not make the appointment until Walend filed an economic disclosure form.

“There’s no legitimate reason for the governor to delay,” Tillis said shortly after 2 p.m. He added that Walend had filed the form and that even if she had not, it was a matter for the House to handle.

Perdue’s staff replied that the disclosure form had not been filed as of 1 p.m. And they pointed to a statute that prohibits her from making such an appointment until a disclosure form is filed.

“Perhaps Speaker Tillis was not aware of the requirements of North Carolina law when he held his press conference this afternoon,” Perdue spokeswoman Chris Mackey said.

Shortly before 5 p.m., a Perdue staffer hand-delivered the appointment to the General Assembly and Walend was seated in time to take the evening’s votes.

In the end, it made little difference to the racial justice bill. However, her vote was critical in passing the override of the NCAE check off measure.

Contact Mark Binker at (919) 832-5549 or mark.binker@news-record.com

Accompanying Photos

Photo Caption: North Carolina legislative building in Raleigh.

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brian444

January 5, 2012 - 5:09 am EST

Awesome hardcore reporting.

EdinNC

January 5, 2012 - 11:17 am EST

Agree. But, this is absurd! It's the same thing Obama is doing in DC this week!

Doug Johnson

January 5, 2012 - 6:29 am EST

Seems I recall this is how the democrats passed the lottery.

Interested

January 5, 2012 - 7:40 am EST

Between this and redistricting, it appears the republican party took careful notes during the many years dems held control. My first thought on seeing this story was also the high road taken in passing the lottery. Dems will have to choose members to speak out against this move carefully - glass houses.

gsonc214

January 5, 2012 - 6:40 am EST

This is really not surprising to me and makes a level of sense. I don't know the details of other groups that are allowed to draft paychecks for membership dues but it seems like it would be a major perk for the organization and a cost, although probably minor, to the state/county schools. NCAE has become a major political voice that always falls strongly on the side of the Democratic party instead of simply advocating for teachers regardless of what parties are in office. I know several teachers personally that have left NCAE because of this stance that they have taken in reference to political parties and joined other groups such as PENC (Public Educators of NC). This simply puts them on a level playing field with most other organizations that are not allowed to draft pay.

balance

January 5, 2012 - 8:36 am EST

Of course NCAE supports Democrats. Republicans have historically undermined teachers through drastic cuts, narrowed and simplified curriculum, and hostility such as this latest episode. Why would educators EVER support Republicans when this is the sort of tactic they constantly deploy against educators?

Interested

January 5, 2012 - 8:58 am EST

Which came first - the chicken or the egg? Few probably can trace back that far in this particular battle. But in the end, does it matter?

What does matter for the NCAE is they have just lost quite a bit of $$$ - to lost dues, to increased collection costs, to a costly legal battle, etc.

gsonc214

January 5, 2012 - 12:50 pm EST

There is a difference between supporting the rights of teachers and supporting a particular party. I know several educators who lean strongly to the right on most social matters, spending, and foreign policy but still want their jobs supported. For them to vote Democrat would be for them to ignore the majority of their ideology. In their view NCAE should be a voice without throwing their support to a particular party.

I also fail to see where this is against educators....against NCAE yes but I'm not sure where this will hurt the educator themselves.

destinys mother in law

January 5, 2012 - 7:05 am EST

Once again we see that the Republicans are sticking to their theme of "job creation." The Republicans have shown that they care more about getting even and punishing teachers than they do about economic reform. We've seen nothing useful come out of the State legislature. The people of North Carolina have been abandoned.

Sawdust

January 5, 2012 - 7:14 am EST

How in the world do you make the jump from union dues to job creation? Surveying the numbers from the whole country, it would seem that doing away with unions altogether would be a major step toward job creation.

swerdna

January 5, 2012 - 7:16 am EST

I was wondering the same thing! Will be interesting to see how the two relate.

destinys mother in law

January 5, 2012 - 7:21 am EST

You've got it backwards. What does teacher's contributions have to do with "jobs, jobs, jobs" which was the mandate given to Republicans and the issue on which they campaigned?

swerdna

January 5, 2012 - 7:52 am EST

lol YOU are the one who brought up the jobs issue. How does this eliminate jobs? See my comment below about it actually CREATING jobs as the union will have to hire people to bill and process dues collected.

swerdna

January 5, 2012 - 7:15 am EST

How does this punish teachers? They can still join the union! By doing away with drafting the fees, it will make it easier for teachers to say "no thanks" to joining rather than being pressured into doing so. As a former teacher, I can tell you that teachers ARE under great pressure to join! I can remember refusing to do so one year because of a financial situation and my year was made less than pleasant by union members! You want to put politics into it? Ok, so the democrats think forcing people to join a union is mandatory? Do as we say do? If you don't think like us, then you're wrong? That isn't freedom!!!

destinys mother in law

January 5, 2012 - 7:23 am EST

Sorry, but checking a box in privacy of your own home should not translate into coercion.

swerdna

January 5, 2012 - 7:51 am EST

Sorry, but NOT checking that box in the privacy of your own home and enduring the consequences DOES translate into coercion. Are you a teacher? If you are, then it's pretty clear you have no clue what not checking that box can mean. As I said, this doesn't prevent teachers from joining the union, and I fully support their right to do so. It simply means the State won't assist the union in the collection of dues. How does that interfere with the rights of anyone?

You want to talk about job creation? By overturning this veto, the Republicans have CREATED jobs! Think of the jobs that will be created when the union has to hire people to process the collection of union dues!!!

It's clear you're in the "Do as we say do? If you don't think like us, then you're wrong?" group.

shine

January 6, 2012 - 3:04 pm EST

I was a teacher in more than one school system. There may be pressure, but no more pressure than what I got from PENC or SECU or Horace Mann. Listen to the pitch, say no thank you, and walk out. If your colleagues are pressuring you, you have every right to make a formal anonymous complaint to HR. NCAE is not a union anyway. We live in a right to work state. You get no job security and no bargaining rights by joining them, only a little legal insurance and some advice.

itsjustron

January 5, 2012 - 7:53 am EST

Sorry, this has absolutely nothing to do with job creation, zero.. natta.

Im with sawdust on this one, getting rid of some of the unions all together would
be a large step forward in job creation

Sounds like Swerdna has first hand experience with the unions. As do I, except, different organization.

gsonc214

January 5, 2012 - 8:03 am EST

Might need to listen to some actual teachers on this one destiny, swerdna is on point here. I know people personally that have been basically black-balled within their school and district for not being a part of NCAE. My wife is a teacher and was approached on a nearly weekly basis by the school's rep asking her to join. This past year she switched to PENC due to significant difference in dues and the fact they did not campaign for the Democratic party and she was questioned multiple times by the school rep for NCAE. It is not nearly as simple as checking a box. It is presented at pre-employment and at the beginning of each year and drafting your check is not done by checking a box at home.

terrier2003

January 5, 2012 - 8:58 am EST

I had to call my sister on this as she is a high school science teacher and I asked her what the box was for. She said she didn't know, but she checked it since they are advised to do so. I asked her to find out from her colleagues...she just texted me back that they really aren't sure what that group does. But they are told at staff meetings that they should check the box. Sounds very vito and vinny to me...

Now don't you think it would be a better idea that the group should have to go there and explain to the teachers how it is that they benefit them? I only ask this because apparently in my sisters years in Randolph County Schools, this group has never shown up dispite the funding.

infolit

January 5, 2012 - 10:40 am EST

Your sister's an idiot if she's checking boxes without knowing why. Part of the problem in this state and in the country is that we're simply not hiring the best and brightest to teach our children because the pay is so lousy. And guess who we have to blame for that - anti union Republican thugs.

balance

January 5, 2012 - 8:32 am EST

NCAE is not a union-- not in the sense that it allows teachers to work together to negotiate better schools (collective bargaining). That is illegal in North Carolina. As a state employee, any number of organizations can make deductions from my check: State Employees' Credit Union, 401k, various insurance companies, and so forth. Professionals in other fields, e.g., psychologists, counselors, and social workers, can have professional dues deducted from their check. Why would legislators single out the NCAE? What is different about the NCAE? I think the answer is clear. This is designed to weaken the voice of educators. Legislators want to dumb down the profession and make drastic cuts to our school, and they don't want any resistance from educators.

Panacea

January 5, 2012 - 9:07 am EST

Thank you! I was getting ready to post this very point.

rmacz

January 5, 2012 - 2:07 pm EST

Looks like a duck, quakes like a duck, must be a duck...ha!.. great spin job.

balance

January 5, 2012 - 3:54 pm EST

No spin job. Collective bargaining is ILLEGAL in North Carolina. It doesn't quack. It is against the law! It is not a duck.

rmacz

January 5, 2012 - 4:55 pm EST

Associations equal labor unions. http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Labor+Union

Sounds like your boyz are good at breaking the law, as well as playing @Maytag...ha!

By the way, I'm for the Unions (Associations) only when they are negotiated under Republican leadership. The Unions and the people don't get screwed.

Panacea

January 5, 2012 - 11:45 pm EST

No, they do not. Professional associations cannot collectively bargain on behalf of their members. They cannot call a strike.

shine

January 6, 2012 - 3:08 pm EST

You do not know what you're talking about. WE ARE A RIGHT TO WORK STATE. Read it: http://www.nrtw.org/c/ncrtwlaw.htm

terrier2003

January 5, 2012 - 9:09 am EST

Whatever, so they cut a check instead or they go online and pay it...

But to the point...Google classify's this as a union, which it technically is although collective bargaining is illegal in this state. They are who back the NCPTA. Which I find amusing that 2/3 of the PTA dues we pay for our kids school goes directly to the state, only 1/3 stays within the school. Efficient. Makes me wonder about the efficiency of the dollars all the educators are tossing to this entity.

And they have the NCAE PAC- Which is a political action committee. Plain as day on the website. NOthing like mixing politics in the classroom. Now my wife pays dues to her professional associations for medicine. But she has to cut the check herself. There is nothing wrong with this.

balance

January 5, 2012 - 3:56 pm EST

Well, Google certainly IS the authority on labor economics.

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