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Touring N.C., Obama seeks jobs votes, piece by piece

Monday, October 17, 2011
(Updated 4:10 pm)

FLETCHER (AP) — Railing against Republicans, President Barack Obama on Monday pushed for a jobs package that Congress is splintering into pieces, with Senate Democrats planning to start with a plan to help states hire teachers, police and firefighters. In campaign mode on the road, Obama accused Republicans senators of saying no to helping Americans.

With the president's plan for one big bill now dead, the Senate began moving to take up parts of it. Yet given that the Senate is likely to be consumed this week with an overdue spending bill — and then is taking a vacation next week — any votes on portions of the jobs legislation may not take place until November.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid planned to announce on Monday that the chamber would move first on the aid to states. Obama, on a bus tour through the politically crucial states of North Carolina and Virginia, made a coordinated push for that part of his bill and mocked Republicans for forcing a piece-by-piece approach to his jobs legislation.

Republicans in the Senate rejected consideration of his whole $447 billion plan last week.

"Maybe they just couldn't understand the whole thing at once, so we're going to break it up into bite-size pieces," Obama said from his first stop in western North Carolina before getting on his black-tinted bus and heading east across the state.

Obama is pitching a $35 billion proposal of aid to states, and spokesman Jay Carney said the White House anticipates action "very soon."

But the state aid package faces long odds on Capitol Hill.

It is a non-starter in the GOP-controlled House and is sure to face a vote-blocking filibuster in the Senate, which would require 60 votes to overcome. Last year, when Senate Democrats controlled 59 votes, moderate Republicans Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe of Maine voted with Democrats to pass a $26 billion state aid package. But with their numbers down to 53, Democrats appear stuck.

Outside Asheville, a supportive crowd broke into a chant of "four more years" for Obama. Said the president in response: "I appreciate the four more years, but right now I'm thinking about the next thirteen months."

Republicans denounced the bus trip as nothing more than a taxpayer-funded campaign trip through two must-win states to try to bolster Obama's standing for the 2012 election.

The president kept up his strategy of taking his case to voters, saying a recent poll showed public backing for his proposals.

He told his audience that when Republicans in the Senate voted against his bill, "essentially, they said no to you."

Obama spoke from an airport outside Asheville that he said could benefit from his $50 billion proposal to help fix airports, roads, bridges and other infrastructure.

After his remarks and a round of hand-shakes, Obama headed east on Interstate 40, but soon turned off to have lunch at a barbecue restaurant in Marion, population 8,075, where he ordered takeout and chatted with patrons about plans to boost U.S. exports.

From Marion, the bus caravan route took Obama uphill through Blue Ridge foothills dappled with fall reds and oranges. At a general store in Boone, near Appalachian State University, he shopped for Halloween candy, loading up on peppermint patties and candy corn. "On Halloween, the first lady doesn't mind," he explained.

Obama was traveling on the all-black touring bus he first used on a similar road trip in August, rolling through Minnesota, Iowa and Illinois. The Secret Service purchased it for $1.1 million.

House Republicans also touted legislation due for a vote next week to repeal a law that would require the withholding of 3 percent of payments to government contractors. The measure was enacted in 2005 by a GOP-controlled Congress to try to ensure that contractors couldn't duck their taxes.

While Obama has pledged to travel the country pitching his plans to get Americans back to work, his stops have focused heavily on political swing states, underscoring the degree to which what happens with the economy is tied to Obama's re-election prospects.

Despite Obama's calls for urgency, it appears the lawmakers may not take up individual components of the president's bill until November, at the earliest. The Senate is set to debate appropriations bills this week, and lawmakers have a scheduled break at the end of the month.

The president will also speak at community colleges, high schools and a firehouse as he travels through North Carolina and Virginia this week.

Both North Carolina and Virginia are traditionally Republican leaning, but changing demographics and a boost in voter turnout among young people and African-Americans helped Obama carry them in 2008.

But nearly three years after his historic election, the president's approval ratings in both states are sagging, in line with the national trend.

A Quinnipiac University poll out earlier this month put Obama's approval rating in Virginia at 45 percent, with 52 percent disapproving. The same poll showed 83 percent of Virginians were dissatisfied with the direction of the country. In North Carolina, Obama has a 42 percent approval rating, according to an Elon University poll conducted this month. Most national polls put Obama's approval rating in the mid- to low-40s.

The conservative advocacy group American Crossroads planned to run television ads in both states during Obama's trip, criticizing the president's jobs proposals as a second round of stimulus spending.

Associated Press writers Ken Thomas, Andrew Taylor and Ben Feller in Washington, Bob Lewis in Richmond, Va., and Tom Breen in Raleigh contributed to this report.

 

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Susan Walsh (Associated Press)

Photo Caption: President Obama shops for candy Monday at Mast General Store in Boone.

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Greensborough

October 17, 2011 - 12:26 pm EDT

I know Obama is desperate as his hopes of four more years are disappearing, but I think he could help himself by holding off on these re-election campaign junkets through North Carolina (at taxpayer expense) and return to Washington and try to negotiate with members of Congress, both the Republicans as well as the Democrats who are not supporting his latest "Jobs" bill. Maybe, just maybe, they can co-operate to focus on jobs for unemployed Americans instead of just getting re-elected.

In 2012, I'm voting for change I can believe in.

Traveler

October 17, 2011 - 12:34 pm EDT

This president is a great speaker, but a very poor doer.

I wish he would stay in Washington and work with Democats and Republicans to pass legislation that will help our country.

Panacea

October 17, 2011 - 6:52 pm EDT

Kinda hard when the Republicans utterly refuse to work with HIM, even when he proposes their ideas!

Traveler

October 17, 2011 - 10:55 pm EDT

Raising taxes to feed an ever growing federal government is not a Republican idea.

buzzman

October 18, 2011 - 1:48 am EDT

Correction - Obama is a good teleprompter reader.

Jarhead

October 17, 2011 - 1:02 pm EDT

This man has tried everyway possible to work with the Rethuglicans. They are determined to out him and put an Insurance guru in to really show you how the Rightwing operates.These people will do anything to further destroy this Country as Bush and his regime did.

rmacz

October 17, 2011 - 6:31 pm EDT

Kinda strange spin ya got there. Obama bails out Government Motors and other Wall Street types...now he's siding with the 99%.....and you blame Bush, the Republicans, but some folks can see through this....ha!

We don't need a new pork bill. We need leadership.

balance

October 17, 2011 - 8:18 pm EDT

Um, do you remember the Bush bailouts?

drstrangelove

October 17, 2011 - 9:10 pm EDT

Revisionist history from the Tea Party ... the bailouts were engineered by the Bush Administration ... Obama was left holding the bag on them, figuring out a way to make sure the United States got its money back (which it mostly has). And never mind that it was Republican policies (banking deregulation) that got us into this sh!tst0rm to begin with! And enver mind that Obama has bent over backwards to work with Repugs, only to undergo some of the most horrific character assassination in modern times. Individual mandate? Republican idea. Infrastructure bank? Republican idea. Tax cuts for (supposedly failed) stimulus? Republican idea ... and yet, the most important thing driving the Republican Party these days? Jobs? Nope. Infrastructure rebuilding? Nope. Banking reform? Nope.

"Well that is true, [making Obama a one-term President is] my single most important political goal along with every active Republican in the country." -- Sen. Minority Leader, Mitch McConnell, being remarkably honest on Fixed News.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/07/10/mcconnell-stopping-obamas-re-elect...

jstevenh1952

October 17, 2011 - 1:36 pm EDT

The "Obama perception" is becoming tiresome. Although the government can do little to create jobs (unless they are government jobs) he continues to miscalculate the long term economic impact of his policies. He cannot correct the errors of past adminstrations by providing unpaid stimulus. Unpaid from economic growth. Tax increases have never resulted in economic growth following a collapse like this.

The banking collapse of 2007 and 2008 was purely fiscal in nature (see "This Time it is Different" by Rogoff and Reinheart) and will take more time to recover than we realize or are even being told. The ripple effect is yet to be fully realized in Europe and the Great Contraction and its banking anc currency failures will most likely extend to Asia later this year and next. Expect more of the same in the finacial market here and most likely a serious round of inflation to deal with.

Obama's team of "economists" have failed to realize that a recovery from a banking collapse of this magitude negates a "Keynesian" potential recovery, in that the excess short term debt (public and private) was a major reason for collapse. He continually politicizes his agenda to the point of obfuscation.

The government can only create the opportunity for jobs. Letting the free markets create the demand for innovation and opportunity. Short term tax cuts and "investments" into the state economies, serve only to postpone the inevitble, the economy both here and in the developed and emerging economies of the world will continue to decline under their accumulation and unwinding of short term debt. The cycle must be allowed to run its course and the short term comparasions to recent economic collapses (great depression) prove of little value in in "seeing" the future. A more historical comparison might possibly be the Panic of 1907.

These cycles will run their course in their own time and there is little Washington can do at this point. The "Great Contraction" will conclude eventually, but it has a way to go. Expect further corporate cutbacks here as jobs seem to evaporate in mid-air. The European banking collapse has yet to be completed and their economies will soon suffer through a very high unemployment cycle as well as the inability for government to finace short term stimulus. The trail will mostlikely circle to Asia bring down the emerging economies of China and India and those in the Pacific Rim.

For those that believe the hope and change message, get ready, the worse is still yet to come. No this time it is not different. It is real and unfortuantely more sustainable that many realize. Mr. President, understand you may have "inherited" these problems, but your current policies will not correct them. You should focus on what you can control and protect the country's economy from the inevitability of further declines.

Hope I and a host of others are wrong, but history says, "This time it is not different".

pixelpusher

October 17, 2011 - 6:19 pm EDT

You do realize that you're using a lot of big words and ideas that most of the people that comment on this site can't comprehend. It seems their only retort is to do away with the 1%.

I, however, understand your post and appreciate your intelligence.

After Obama has spent all of the 1%'s money, who will continue to pay the bills?

jstevenh1952

October 17, 2011 - 7:12 pm EDT

Thank you. Although the stated experts of this paper are choosing to overlook the obvious. I urge the readers of this post to read more into this and set aside the rhetoric. I would start with Rogoff and Reinhart and follow with panic of 1907. This situation is evolving into quite a economic calamity.

Panacea

October 17, 2011 - 6:56 pm EDT

"Let the free markets work their magic" is a typical conservative response to every thing.

Free markets dont' work when the system is so badly rigged in favor of monopolies or near monopolies.

Free markets don't work when consumers have nothing to spend.

True, there are limits to what government can do, though creating jobs through government worked well during the Great Depression (programs like the WPA and CCC for example).

Funny how many of the ideas conservatives criticize for Obama not understanding the "long term impact" are Republican ideas: like the payroll tax holiday and health care reform. The real problem with those ideas is that Obama embraced them; they were fine as long as he opposed them.

balance

October 17, 2011 - 8:22 pm EDT

A neo-Keynesian response is the only proper response. Trying to promote recovery any other way is like trying to push a string. It doesn't work. Of course, few of Obams's economists are Keynesians. Most are über-capitalists in the most fundamentalist way. For proper response to the Bush recession, see Sweden and Norway.

whyus

October 17, 2011 - 1:41 pm EDT

Obama should stop his political pandering and re-election campaign in NC. He was in Raleigh courting students a few weeks back and now cross-trecking NC. He is unfairly using his position for political gain. He can blame the Republican's all he wants but for his first two years he had complete control and what we got out of it was extreme debt, continued high unemployment and a miserable health care bill no one cared to read before they signed it.

balance

October 17, 2011 - 8:23 pm EDT

That is what all incumbents do. Duh.

obiwon

October 17, 2011 - 2:19 pm EDT

What a desperate man! Jobs for teachers and other government workers. Gotta pay back those union bosses. I wonder how his Canadian made tour bus is doing for him? What happened to Buy American? I guess the news media doesn't want to question him to hard about such things.

Bosco

October 17, 2011 - 3:28 pm EDT

What airplane brought the bus down here? Maybe one of those hugh Russian Aeroflot jobs.

balance

October 17, 2011 - 8:30 pm EDT

The Secret Service bought the busses. And they bought one for the Republican nominee too. Are you saying we shouldn't hire teachers? Is yours an anti-education argument? By the way....NC is by law an anti- union state, so THIS is not a place to appease unions.

Traveler

October 17, 2011 - 10:34 pm EDT

Carolina teachers and all public employees are members of one of several unions. The NCEA is the North Carolina Educators Association, or something like that. They contribute union dues which go primarily to Democats.

North Carolina, by law, forbids collective barganing or strike by teacher or any public employee. It is easy to confuse the two, especially if you are from out of state.

Again, the teachers are unionized. By law they cannot have collective barganing or strike.

Greensborough

October 17, 2011 - 4:23 pm EDT

Results of the 2009 Stimulus Package (according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office "CBO"):

Cost: $821,000,000 (that's 821 Billion) (All borrowed)
Jobs created: 1,400,000 (that's 1.4 million)

Cost per job created: $586,000

Result: Failure

Wish I could see something positive in this but I can't. Perhaps what is encouraging is that Congress has learned to be a bit more skeptical of Obama's crazy schemes. Our creditors may begin to think of the USA as a subprime borrower.

Panacea

October 17, 2011 - 7:05 pm EDT

We avoided a 2nd Great Depression.

I consider that a success and the best that could be hoped for given the circumstances.

Greensborough

October 17, 2011 - 7:31 pm EDT

Panacea,
You've got all the Democrat talking points down pat. I'm neither a Democrat or Republican; I'm independent. I wasn't a fan of GW Bush; I think his Medicare Drug plan for seniors was a huge mistake, mainly because it was unfunded. I'm an equal opportunity offender. What bothers me is that we didn't run surpluses during the "good years" and thus give ourselves the luxury of running deficits during recessions.

Obama lost me when he ignored his own Simpson-Bowles' Deficit Commission's recommendations. It was a slap in the face to Senator Simpson and Erskine Bowles as well as all the committee members who worked so hard.

I'm also disappointed in his not taking action to undo some of the blunders of the Clinton and Bush administrations. Glass-Segal worked very well to keep the banks honest until Clinton signed the legislation to eliminate it. And the unfunded Medicare Drug Plan passed under GW Bush is still law. Finally, I've been waiting since the gas lines of 1977 for a National Energy Policy. Obama has disappionted me.

jstevenh1952

October 17, 2011 - 8:26 pm EDT

No basis for this position. Using debt to thwart a depression has no historical reference of success, rather extending the problem by utilizing massive short term debt that must be rolled over. The basis of your comment has no historical reference or value. Banking and currency crisis eventually evolve into periods of high inflation making the roll out of domestic debt very inflationary and devastating to currency structures.

Unfortunately the perceived invincibility of the central banks activities may prolong the Great Contraction. It is too naive to think the issuance of 800 trillion of short term debt by the government for domestic spending thwarted a economic depression. It is more likely that if you take an aspirin today you forgo a headache next week. Reference the continued Euro banking issues and the shift in Asia on the percieved risk of local debt.

balance

October 17, 2011 - 8:33 pm EDT

Are you conveniently ignoring Sweden's spending to recover from the Great Depression? What about the economic history of Norway? And if we hadn't escalated the debt for WWII, we'd still be in the depression. Crisis requires a short term spending response and a long term payoff plan.

jstevenh1952

October 17, 2011 - 9:42 pm EDT

Without much more clarification, I dismiss their short term solutions. Although I am in good company.

balance

October 17, 2011 - 8:26 pm EDT

The stimulus stopped and even reversed the job losses from the recession. The number of jobs lost decreased consistently after the stimulus. If Republicans hadn't gutted the original stimulus plan, we'd all be better off.

drstrangelove

October 17, 2011 - 9:18 pm EDT

Moreover, it's worth noting that 1/3 of the "stimulus" was tax cuts. So are Republicans willing to admit that the tax cuts failed? Yeah, I didn't think so.

*$237B in individual tax relief
*$53B in corporate tax relieft
*$103B in infrastructure investment

So 3x's as much tax relief as infrastructure investment ... which part of the stimulus "failed"??

Greensborough

October 17, 2011 - 10:42 pm EDT

Dr. LoveStrange, Your response doesn't pass my FactChecker. I'm talking about the Stimulus Bill of 2009.

My source is the Congressional Budget Office. Please provide supporting documentation for your assertions.

Traveler

October 17, 2011 - 5:50 pm EDT

Interesting... drove by Proximity where Obama is susposed to stay tonight.. protestors.... but they were from the Occupy crowd with signs of "Sellout".

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