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Occupy Greensboro participants cite economic inequality, financial fraud

Sunday, October 16, 2011
(Updated 8:02 am)

— Hundreds of protesters surrounded the Bank of America building downtown Saturday afternoon as part of the “Occupy Greensboro” protest.

“Banks got bailed out, we got sold out,” they chanted to the beat of a marching drum corps, raising handmade signs and unfurling banners.

“Lobbyists Eat the Constitution for Breakfast” read one.

“Eight Years of College and Laid off Twice,” another read. “Where’s My Bailout?”

Those who marched from the Phill G. McDonald Plaza to Festival Park said they were inspired by the movement that began on New York’s Wall Street and has spread all over the world.

Police Chief Ken Miller, who oversaw his officers at Festival Park and spent some time chatting with protesters, estimated the crowd at about 600.

Organizers had expected between 500 and 1,000 people.

Some of the targets of the protest: fraud in the financial industry, economic inequality, and elected officials who protesters said serve donors and lobbyists rather than the American people.

“It’s hard to live in America today without coming to the conclusion that our government and all of our institutions are for sale to the highest bidder,” said Michael Duncan, 22.

Duncan said he was lucky to find a job in computer technical support after he graduated from college two years ago — many of his friends didn’t.

But he was laid off just a few months later as the company he worked for downsized. He found another job after a few months but was laid off again within a year.

“Our economy is on the verge of collapse,” Duncan said. “And it’s because of a housing bubble created by bankers and people on Wall Street who sold us a bill of goods, defrauded the American people and then were bailed out by our government along with a lot of other major corporations as average workers were laid off, their pay cut, and their houses foreclosed.

“Anyone who isn’t angry about that hasn’t been paying attention.”

The demonstration remained peaceful. No arrests were made as of Saturday night.

The event’s organizers worked closely with police and city officials to be sure the demonstration would be safe, family friendly and nonviolent.

“Folks have the right to peaceably assemble and express their views,” Miller said. “We’re here to help them have the opportunity to do that as long as it’s done within the law.”

“Some of the other demonstrations across the country have gotten out of hand,” Miller said. “But I don’t think we have to worry about that here. This group has been well organized and balanced.”

Assistant City Manager Mike Speedling said the city worked with the event’s organizers to find a safe place for their demonstration. They even cut the per-day rental fee for Festival Park from $700 to $200.

“We thought that would help defer some of our costs and also provide a place for them to demonstrate in an environment that was safe,” Speedling said.

That arrangement didn’t sit well with everyone.

“This is a group that says it’s against bailouts, and yet they get a cut rate for the park and the taxpayers pick up the difference,” said Barrett Riddleberger , a member of Conservatives for Guilford County, a local tea party affiliated political action committee. “That’s interesting.”

Riddleberger and his family were on hand Saturday, shooting video of the event.

Some of the demonstrators also objected to the close relationship between city and police officials and the group’s organizers.

“It’s 'Occupy Greensboro,’ not 'Politely Rent Space from Greensboro,’” said Carolyn Atkins, 26. “I was really disappointed that we’re trying to make a point about the corrupting nature of money and government, and we’re giving money to the government to rent a public park where we should be able to demonstrate for free as part of exercising our First Amendment rights.”

The group also rented space at the adjoining YWCA parking lot for camping overnight to keep from being ejected from the public park, which is closed at night.

But many of the demonstrators said they appreciated the group’s decision — reached by consensus in meetings over the last week — to rent space to minimize conflict with police and create a family-friendly environment.

The crowd was diverse, with plenty of families among their number.

Todd Horn, 40, brought his two children — ages 7 and 4 — to the event. He said he and his wife, both teachers, thought it was important to show their children what’s really important in life.

“I want these guys not to be so involved in Pokemon and video games that they don’t realize what’s really going on around them,” Horn said.

A few area elected officials and political candidates also were among the crowd, including at-large Greensboro City Council candidate Marikay Abuzuaiter and Guilford County Register of Deeds Jeff Thigpen.

Thigpen’s crusade against mortgage fraud and improper documentation by major national banks in Guilford County has gotten national media coverage.

“The people who started this aren’t the protesters,” Thigpen said. “They’re on Wall Street and they ran our economy into the ground. I believe in an America where there isn’t one standard for banks and another standard for the rest of us.”

Contact Joe Killian at 373-7023 or joe.killian@news-record.com
 

Accompanying Photos

Nelson Kepley

Photo Caption: Maryblake Muphy (left), 9, and Nadia Fiorine, 7, both of Greensboro join other demonstrators Saturday for an Occupy Greensboro march through downtown Saturday. The crowd, estimated at 600 people, included a number of families with children.

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northoftheboro

October 16, 2011 - 4:33 am EDT

I have very little sympathy for these protesters. I too have been laid off and have had to return to college in recent years, even though I enjoyed a $15.50/hour job, I bought and paid off two homes early, I bought and own one modest car, and saved over $50,000 on top of that; that was when Bush was president and all with merely a high school diploma. Fast forward to 2009, when I lost my job, had to sell my home, I now rent, work part-time at minimum wage, and I pay my way through college to improve my chances of employment; all this after "change" happened, yet I have NEVER received, nor sought, a government handout in any form (unemployment benefits, food stamps, cash-for-clunkers, you name it). Instead of blaming others for my misfortune (and in this case, the wrong ones are certainly being blamed), I support myself and take my future into my own hands without crying for Uncle Sugar to wipe my butt as millions of unmotivated Americans, like this Occu-leeches, currently do. But then again, I thankfully have made wise life-choices during my short existence on this earth: I don't have child support payments, I don't have a substance abuse problem, I finished high school, I have never desired to buy the newest car or fanciest high-tech gadget, or foolishly do other things that caused me to live outside of my means. And yes, there are jobs out there for those who actually WANT to work, instead of disgracing themselves by mooching off of 99 weeks/2 years of unemployment benefits. I had to take a fifty percent pay cut and perform a task that at times is demeaning and unpleasant, but I sleep well at night knowing that I support myself in life without the help from others. It is so frustrating that many of us have played by the rules (seeking and going to work, paying off mortgages early, paying credit card bills and other monthly expenses off every month, and saving money), yet we who produce and follow the rules continually have to support this lazy, whining rabble who constantly seeks to live off of the hard work and earned money of others. This is why I am a member of the Tea Party movement and why any comparison between these non-working parasites and the patriots of America who yearn for responsibility in our society, is utterly offensive and ridiculous.

Just to note, on the same day that many of these protests were being held around the country, the Communist Party USA and the American Nazi Party both have endorsed these "Occupy" movements. Fortunately, that is yet another thing that the Tea Party does not share with this pathetic mob.

busdoc

October 16, 2011 - 6:20 am EDT

Well said. Over 30 years, I've only been unemployed two times for less than two weeks. At times, I too worked jobs I didn't like, but suffered through them and cut back to make ends meet.
On another note, my present employer has openings but can't seem to find anyone who can pass a drug test, pass a background check or wants to work the hours offered.

Bo Regard

October 16, 2011 - 9:15 am EDT

Hey, busdoc! How about telling us who's got these job openings? I personally met nearly 30 people downtown yesterday who easily meet these qualifications, not to mention li'l ole me! Problem is, I also have a college degree, 43 years of work experience and some intelligence. So far employers have wanted the sobriety, law-abidingness and reliability, but nothing more. It seems worse to be over-qualified than under-qualified in today's job market. Seriously, who's hiring?

Traveler

October 16, 2011 - 6:39 pm EDT

looking around for 30 minutes, I see dozens of commission sales jobs in insurance, auto sales, retail, etc. I saw several companies hiring truck drivers and equipment operators.

Driving around recently, I saw signs wanted experienced insulation installers, cable installers, carpet cleaners, roofing workers, and stocking workers.

Last I heard the sherrif was still looking for deputies.

There are several openings for nurses at several levels from specialty trained own down.

There are more.

I just visited the Occupy site at the old YMCA building and grounds in downtown. About a hundred, mostly young or homeless camping. Police told me the Occupy people were staying for a week and then see what to do. I tried to talk to a couple of campers, but had little success. Seems as if they are looking for handouts. There is a soup kitchen giving them free food, so several of the area homeless have joined to get the free food.

If you want to support them, take them something. I am sure they would love food and any type of clothing, blankets, sleeping bags, etc. I saw some old tents set up on the asphalt parking lot with no sleeping bags.

I know the site is represented on the real estate market by Senator Hagan's family business, Hagan Properties. Don't know if they are being active in the goings on there or not.

If you believe in free enterprise, you might want to buy something from Cafe Europa next door. Their business has been hurt by the crowd.

Many thanks to the 400 and some police officers. Those men and women have had a challenging weekend protecting our city. Between the Occupy movement and the A & T homecoming and all the thugs and violence that always brings, it was been a struggle.

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Traveler

October 16, 2011 - 8:04 pm EDT

Dude or Dudette, commission jobs are jobs... you are paid based on how well you produce.

I am a small business owner, and small business owners have incomes based on commission or how well their business makes a profit.

Nothing in life is guaranteed. One of the biggest problems in America is that so many people believe they are entitled to a middle class life simply because they were born Americans.

What job do you want or expect?

sickandtired

October 17, 2011 - 6:08 am EDT

Listings on the internet and signs aren't always valid. Most of the jobs do not exist. It is very misleading to the unemployed.

I too have worked hard for everything I have but I believe that one major accident or sickness could cost me everything. Terrible things happen to good people. Just because you have worked hard and managed your money doesn't mean you can't lose everything and need help one day. You know the old saying about taxes and death.

1234

October 16, 2011 - 1:51 pm EDT

I hear that the Obama committee will be paying for supporters when he comes thru here next week...just call and get a check for holding a sign...protest outside the white house for what they have done for this Country by spending blindly... my son said that the solar panel billions could have put to work thousands of folks if real new start ups would have been given just a small fraction and not to pay off packagers of P-bo's campaign fund raising!

RandolphBloke

October 16, 2011 - 2:59 pm EDT

Where's your proof of this? Post it up and show us where this is supported by the white house or any one else that holds official elected positions.

bamissfa

October 16, 2011 - 6:49 pm EDT

SEIU was behind this protest in greensboro and 300 others across the country. SEIU as most everyone knows is a union a big on and backed obama in 08 and is backing him in 2012....i recei'ved an email from SEIU inviting me to attend!

Panacea

October 16, 2011 - 7:47 pm EDT

While unions are supporting the Occupy movement, the Occupy movement is not supporting the unions. They are not affiliated with any political party.

Like the Tea Party, they are not interested in the political establishment. They are merely people trying to make their voices heard.

rightwingnemesis

October 16, 2011 - 9:36 am EDT

To 'northoftheboro'
Wow! You must be a C4GC member! The Tea Party received glowing endorsements from white hooded organizations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m6wySl92yE&feature=share
Tell us all about this one while you are at it.
Just so you know, you really have missed the point of this protest as it went right over your head.
Sorry.

countryboy

October 16, 2011 - 9:43 am EDT

The Democratic Party started the "white hooded" organizations in response to Republican reconstruction efforts following the civil war. Your blessed Robert Byrd...2nd greatest liberal in history and recent member of Congress, was once a member. How far back do you want to go and how far do you want to reach with your mindless drivel.

left-wing conspiracy theorist

October 16, 2011 - 10:29 am EDT

It must be sad to go through life with such a shallow understanding of history and politics.

God bless your heart.

SJS4JC

October 16, 2011 - 12:02 pm EDT

@ left-wing conspiracy theorist: Actually what is truly sad is that you do not know your own history or else you would have known that 'countryboy' states the truth. Go do some historical studies of ALL history and then come back and say that this person has a 'a shallow understanding of history and politics'.

SJS4JC

October 16, 2011 - 11:47 am EDT

I value each person to make a contribution to society and their first amendment right to do so. I did watch the David Duke video and although I do not agree with his view on the Israeli people or his seeming hatred for the Jewish people, I am mature enough not to have 'hate' for him even though he may say things that I don't agree with. I do agree that the white race has been blasted with 'racism' labels and all of the 'bad' things that one could possibly hear and I do see the bias in the media when one race is pitted against another. Some of what David Duke is saying is true but ultimately it isn't about the 'skin color' of a person but what originates in their heart. Is there greed or liable and hate in a person's heart? This is the crux to the issue. Relating to the "Occupiers" I would have to agree with the first commenter in all that he said. Even though there are injustices 'occupying' a place doesn't do much in my estimation. Perhaps getting on a city or county local government to pursue changes or maybe do something regionally or locally would help much more. It is more about people talking than actually doing something about making changes. Instead of going to get a job as in the first commenter and not expecting someone else to 'pay their way' there seems to be more about grumbling and complaining when this is really falling on deaf ears. As to the malignment of the Tea Party by placing a endorsement from David Duke doesn't further prove any racism to the Tea Party than going to a McDonald's makes one a hamburger; one will have to find something else to 'fuss and argue' about.

1234

October 16, 2011 - 1:53 pm EDT

I bet Herman Cain loves this type of attackers...sheeeeee...don't look close, but I think he is b-l-a-c-k...and he is a tea party type.

Lord Trigo

October 16, 2011 - 12:48 pm EDT

I know quite a few progressives who were with the Tea Party in the beginning, when it was protesting government/big business collusion in the form of bailouts. They left when the Glenn Beck conspiracy crowd and the Michelle Bachmann-worshipping religious fundies took over. Not to mention it became a front for the Koch brothers, the very well-connected big business types it started out railing against. Now most of those people are with the Occupy movement. If conservatives could just drop all the quasi-Taliban "Culture War" BS, you might hang on to people.

RandolphBloke

October 16, 2011 - 3:01 pm EDT

I've been pointing this out for two years now. The founders of the TP movement have been very upset at how it has been taken over and moved into a socially conservative area when that was never the intent.

Waldo Leidecker

October 16, 2011 - 7:01 am EDT

OWS - Humanity's answer to all the Republinazis and Tea Potty Terrorists who take so much pleasure in screwing over and spitting upon the poor, the elderly, the infirm, and the unemployed. Be afraid guys, be VERY afrraid. Looks like the "rabble" have finally had enough.

rmacz

October 16, 2011 - 11:58 am EDT

Then you oughta look to Greece for the advanced version of the "YES PARTY".....ha!

Greece would be proud of the Occupiers.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/15/us-greece-pm-idUSTRE79E2A72011...

These folks woulda supported Hitler to take over banks....afraid....look at history.

swerdna

October 16, 2011 - 7:44 am EDT

There are passive approaches and active approaches toward solving a problem. These people could accomplish much more by withdrawing their money from BOA, cutting up their credit cards, cancelling their accounts, etc. After closing out accounts, yesterday I cancelled our BOA credit card. With each "sell job" I was given in an effort to keep me as a customer, I simply said I didn't approve of the things BOA was doing. Lower rate? No, I don't approve of BOA's actions. World Points? Nope. Higher credit limit? No thanks. Finally, the account was closed, and while I'm just a little fish in a big sea, at least I know no more of my money will be supporting BOA. If enough fish leave the lake, the lake will soon become non-productive.

I realize chances are that the majority of these protestors have no connection with BOA whatsoever, but surely, SURELY they could channel their efforts in a way that would appear more intelligent, creative, and effective. These protests accomplish nothing really except it gets their photo on the front page or gets their video on the news.

bcsizemo

October 16, 2011 - 1:23 pm EDT

So do you still have a credit card or checking account? And if you say at your local credit union, you do realize that many of them hold their money (ie, your assets) at the larger banks like BOA. So without the infrastructure that the large financial companies provide the little banks wouldn't be able to exist either. I'm not saying things shouldn't change, but believing if all the big companies went away the problem would be solved is a little short sighted.

swerdna

October 16, 2011 - 3:45 pm EDT

I have a credit card, debit card, and checking account at another bank. Nothing now at BOA and nothing at a credit union. My bank, at the present, does not charge any fees. Actually, I generally pay cash for my purchases.

swerdna

October 16, 2011 - 7:51 am EDT

As to the photo with this article, I wonder if these little girls have any clue why their parents have them holding these signs? Do they understand at all what these protests are for? Do they personally bank with BOA? Do they have a credit card? A debit card? They are adorable, yes, but they're being exploited to display these signs because they are adorable.

rightwingnemesis

October 16, 2011 - 9:38 am EDT

Swerdna,
How about all the folks who use children at the "Life Chain"? Oh, I'm sure that is different. Yeah, right. Those are your bottom dwellers who wish the government would come between doctor and patient but somehow also believe they are "conservative". Here's your sign!

swerdna

October 16, 2011 - 1:20 pm EDT

First: last I checked, the article is NOT about "Life Chain." When it is, then I will comment on such. Until then, I will stay on task.

Second: You make assumptions about me you can't back up, don't you? We all know about those who make assumptions, correct? Here's YOUR sign!

swerdna

October 16, 2011 - 1:30 pm EDT

rightwingnemesis: I'm just curious. Which issue do you think is more easily understood by a child - abortion or the vast economic issues being protested by Occupy supporters?

dont tread on me

October 16, 2011 - 1:40 pm EDT

swerdna: RWN plays the race card, insults commenters, and cites you tube vids as his/her source. I doubt you could have a reasonable, civil discourse with someone who so clearly calls people with different views his/her nemesis.

There is a reason this country is a such an impasse, and it's closed minded attitudes such as that, that will never allow us to make any progress at any rate....republican or democrat.

swerdna

October 16, 2011 - 3:52 pm EDT

Some people just refuse to believe any opinion(s) other than theirs are valid. Thus, civil discussion is not possible, and very often, when challenged, they will divert attention to another topic. Life Chain protests are discussed no where in this article, but the focus was shifted to that rather than admit that these children probably have no understanding of the economic issues associated with these protests. When such diversion occurs, I consider it a point in my favor! ;-)

swerdna

October 16, 2011 - 10:19 pm EDT

truth - please read my previous exchange with rightwingnemisis. That is where the "Life Chain" topic came into play. I was certainly NOT making an analogy as you claim, so perhaps before you accuse, you should make sure you're informed. Please be assured that I am pro-life 100%.

You have assumed much about me that is totally false. In fact, you are so off-target that it's comical! I have no guilty conscience at all, nor have I ever received any "free checks in the mail" or any other services you list. I am not a poor single mother having been married to the same man for 35 years and the mother of two children, own the house free and clear and have no debt whatsoever because we have not lived beyond our means. I have NEVER had an abortion. I am not self-centered, self-absorbed, warped, or entitled. I AM an American woman, so you got that part right. Thus, of all the things you seem to assume about me, only one (the American woman) is correct. Ever heard of the old saying about making ASSumptions?

A decent person apologizes for making false assumptions. I won't hold my breath.

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