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Greensboro lacks green jobs

Monday, July 18, 2011
(Updated 10:44 am)

Greensboro may not be as green as its name suggests, at least when it comes to creating clean-economy jobs.

A recent Brookings Institution report says that between 2003 and 2010, the Greensboro-High Point area added only 639 green jobs, for a growth rate of 1.7 percent annually.

A co-author of the report, Jonathan Rothwell, called the area’s growth “relatively anemic.”

In fact, it’s lower than the green growth rates for the nation, the state and North Carolina’s two other major metros, Raleigh and Charlotte.

The report said the Greensboro-High Point area ranked 86th nationally in both clean-economy job creation and the rate of job growth.

Rothwell blamed the area’s poor showing on the impact of the two recessions that devastated the area in the past decade.

“It seems to be largely carrying over to the green economy,” Rothwell said of the downturns in 2001 and 2007-2009. “(Greensboro-High Point) doesn’t rate too well when it is compared to the nation or other metros.”

The report defines clean or green jobs as the area of the economy that produces goods and services with an environmental benefit. It says the sector provides an important source of industrial innovation, good-paying manufacturing jobs and exports “for a nation that needs them.”

The report comes at a time when a Florida firm says it’s considering Guilford County for a $1.4 billion solar farm.

Landing the project would add 120 clean jobs locally during the next five to six years. But Rothwell stressed that the area should concentrate on creating jobs that build solar panels rather than ones that just install and maintain them.

“One of the things that has held Greensboro back, it has not been a strong innovator,” Rothwell said. “It hasn’t been able to create new businesses in the fast-growing industries of the clean economy.

“This is less a problem in places like Durham and Raleigh, where a cadre of highly skilled inventors reside and are able to put their ideas into new businesses.”

Overall, the report says, the Greensboro area has 5,725 green jobs and ranks 76th nationally among the nation’s 100 largest metros. Raleigh ranks 30th and Charlotte 33rd.

Greensboro’s total makes up 1.7 percent of all the jobs in the region, which includes Guilford, Randolph and Rockingham counties.

“That measures those jobs relative to all jobs in the region,” said Andrew Brod, senior research fellow at UNCG’s Bryan School of Business and Economics. “I think that’s a better way to gauge how big we are.”

Brod also said the area’s ranking in green jobs compares well with the region’s 71st rank in population.

The area produced some bright spots in the report.

For one, clean economy jobs in Greensboro, on average, produce $23,679 in exports. That ranks 20th nationally. Charlotte came in 25th; Raleigh 88th.

“That’s where we seem to stand out,” Brod said. “We are still manufacturing intensive.”

For another, the estimated median wage in Greensboro’s clean economy was $35,381. That compares to $34,597 for all jobs in the area.

And the area’s share of clean jobs that offer good pay for modest education ranked ahead of the state, the top 100 metros and the nation at nearly 74 percent.

The report says the area saw significant growth in green architecture and construction services, professional services, air and water-purification technologies and recycling and reuse jobs.

“It’s less about creating new jobs than incorporating new techniques into existing jobs,” said John Quinterno, of South by North Strategies, a research firm in Chapel Hill. “We are not looking at jobs that are yet to be invented. We are looking at bringing new skills to existing work.”

Long term, local leaders say they see reason for optimism for the economy at large and for green jobs.

They say efforts at UNCG and N.C. A&T, particularly their Joint School Of Nanoscience and Nanoengineering, will help produce economic activity.

“It is going to take some time for those to generate the research activity, the ideas and then the jobs,” said Pat Danahy, president and CEO of the Greensboro Partnership, which oversees economic development in the city. “It’s a huge plus for us going forward.”

Contact Donald W. Patterson at 373-7027 or don.patterson@news-record.com

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The_Doctor

July 18, 2011 - 7:27 am EDT

Green jobs? Who cares? People want jobs PERIOD. The U6 unemployment rate nationally is over 16% at the last reporting, and it's been slightly higher for North Carolina, and we're supposed to fret over a lack of "Green" jobs?

Panacea

July 18, 2011 - 8:12 am EDT

People who want jobs "period" aren't thinking it through.

We need sustainable jobs. We need jobs that allow people to remain in or move into the middle class.

Skilled manufacturing allows for that, and green jobs are one of the few sectors that has the potential to allow that.

You don't get into the middle class working in a call center unless you are a manager.

The_Doctor

July 18, 2011 - 10:43 am EDT

You took more out of my statement than you should. I just said Green jobs are not the "panacea" that some people think they are. OK? Got it? Is that clear? Understand?

I don't know where you get the "call center" remark from, so I don't even know what to say about that one. Where did you come up with that?

The bottom line is this: if you think "Green" jobs are going to fix everything, you're sorely mistaken.

That's all. OK? Am I allowed to be skeptical that the "Green" thing is our panacea?

aintme

July 18, 2011 - 8:12 am EDT

No, we're supposed to fret over a lack of jobs PERIOD. It's not just green jobs, it's any jobs around here. We never seem to fare as well as Raleigh or Charlotte, we need to figure out why, and fix it so we remain vibrant.

infolit

July 18, 2011 - 8:31 am EDT

Here is your answer - THE WORKFORCE ISN'T AS EDUCATED AS RALEIGH OR CHARLOTTE. Maybe now some of you will rethink your stance on cutting education budgets...

rogerwx

July 18, 2011 - 9:24 am EDT

Who they elect as GC Commissioners is proof enough. Skip, build me a hotel, Alston being the best example. Also, GSO and Bellamy-Small.(wait a minute, SMALL?)

The_Doctor

July 18, 2011 - 10:28 am EDT

That's what I said. We need to be worried about jobs PERIOD, not just "Green" jobs. The "Green" jobs are not the panacea that will "fix-it-all" for us.

kitr

July 18, 2011 - 8:03 am EDT

can we start a green school..perhaps downtown, renovating an old building into a green building, teaching along the way, then using visiting professors, local experts, teaching new green skills, technology, etc in a variety of subjects....this could begin in a small way, not as large as the nano tech venture, but smaller, hands on, growing into a lab for future industry possibilties...to begin to take the place of long lost factory jobs....put the green back into greensboro...green furniture, green textiles, green housing, recycling, etc.....

Panacea

July 18, 2011 - 8:28 am EDT

Actually, A&T and UNCG are already doing that at the Joint School.

rogerwx

July 18, 2011 - 9:18 am EDT

HAS to be a "Joint School". Only people smoking dope would think this will have any kind of positive results. Sucks up more tax dollars. Bring in a lecture series with Al, Love Story, Gore, Nancy, fly me home w/o refueling, Pelosi, and Sleazy, bus all unionized casino employees to vote, Reid. Have Ayers and Souros hold seminars on The Success of Socialism Around the World. Maybe a speech by P'bo about the success of his Porkulus package and shovel ready jobs he created.

rogerwx

July 18, 2011 - 9:02 am EDT

Green jobs! Yeah, let's get to work on that. 40-50% not paying taxes. 44 million on food stamps (EBT). Lady in Food Line yesterday bought $113 worth of stuff incl.Bubba Burgers, candy, and a case of Coke. Used her EBT card. Went outside, lit a cigarette, answered her cell phone, and got in a new looking SUV. She doesn't want ANY job. She wants Obama re-elected.

pragmatist

July 18, 2011 - 10:24 am EDT

Lol. You know exactly what she paid, exactly what she bought, how she bought it, then followed her outside to watch her smoke while she talked on a cell phone and got into a vehicle? If this is true, I'd say the real problem is her stalker.

rogerwx

July 18, 2011 - 10:38 am EDT

You do not have to be a stalker to be behind someone in line, see her holding the EBT card, be parked next to her, and watch her try to unload groceries, that I paid for, while lighting up and talking on the phone.(pragmatist- concerned w/the practical consequence-a misnomer in the case, unlike Pan, who DOES believe she holds the solution to everything.)

rogerwx

July 18, 2011 - 10:40 am EDT

Forgot something, I would never stalk morbidly obese chicks. Maybe she's too fat to work.

Bosco

July 18, 2011 - 9:37 am EDT

I think you've hit on a new motto for this town. Kinda has a nice ring to it, "Greensboro, Relatively Anemic"

The_Doctor

July 18, 2011 - 10:27 am EDT

How about this one: "Greensboro: At Least We're Not Detroit."

Aw, c'mon....I'm just kidding!

General Greensboro

July 18, 2011 - 10:38 am EDT

@ The Doctor: If you want to talk about the story, have at it. If you want to talk about another commenter, I'll delete more of your posts.

GG

General Greensboro

July 18, 2011 - 10:43 am EDT

@ Roger: Your Cadillac-riding-welfare-queen sightings are off topic.

And since no one seems to want to discuss Don Patterson's story ... closed.

GG

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