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GPA rule sidelines more than 100 athletes

Sunday, September 5, 2010
(Updated Tuesday, September 7 - 9:25 am)

GREENSBORO — At least 111 student-athletes who failed to attain a 2.0 grade-point average in the spring semester are ineligible to play for their high school teams this semester because of a new requirement instituted by Guilford County Schools.

District officials agree it is likely they have more ineligible athletes because totals are estimated by coaches and are reported by each school’s athletics director.

The figures also don’t include students who are ineligible because they failed more than one class, students who didn’t try out because their grades wouldn’t have qualified, or students who transferred or dropped out.

“We’re trying to figure out how to track it,” said Leigh Hebbard, athletics director for Guilford County Schools. “There isn’t an easy answer just yet.”

Each of the district’s 15 high schools with athletics programs has reported at least one ineligible student as a result of the policy for fall teams. The district’s total does not include athletes on winter teams, whose seasons will begin in November with about two months remaining in the first semester.

Ineligible athletes cannot participate in practices or games, though they can be a manager or statistician, Hebbard said.

The effects of the policy vary across the district:

• Northeast Guilford, whose 21 ineligible students are the most reported, lost 19 football players.

• The Page football team lost two of its starting offensive linemen (plus a third who failed more than one class and a fourth who transferred) and a starting junior varsity running back.

• A Smith student who has played basketball since he was 6 will miss the first two months of his senior season.

“Now he can’t play because he needed another two points on a test?” said the Smith student’s parent, Kenneth Whitmire, who also spoke before the Guilford County Board of Education and said that his son, who passed all of his classes, cried for several days and spent long hours in bed, depressed. “He was due to be a starter this year, captain of the team.”

Stronger requirements

Guilford County’s policy is stricter than the state’s eligibility requirements. The N.C. High School Athletic Association requires no minimum GPA, stipulating only that a student must pass three of four classes in a block schedule or five of six classes in a traditional schedule to remain eligible.

But Guilford’s policy is on par with the 2.0 required in the Charlotte-Mecklenburg and Winston-Salem/Forsyth County systems.

“Our superintendent (Maurice Green ) came on board (in 2008), and promoting academic excellence was one of his focal points,” Hebbard said. “The standard of only passing three or passing five classes didn’t stand for promoting excellence in any shape or form, and the 2.0 requirement is a step in the right direction.”

But one football coach, Northeast Guilford’s Tommy Pursley, touts the benefits that students receive when they play sports.

“We lost kids who needed us more than we needed them,” Pursley said. “Participating in sports helps with discipline and self-control and to keep them out of trouble. We’re not out here just teaching these kids some silly game.

There’s a value in what we do and sometimes those people making decisions and setting policy don’t understand that or don’t appreciate … the effect we have on these kids.”

Northern Guilford football coach Johnny Roscoe said the GPA requirement didn’t cause his team to lose players, but he said some were ineligible after failing two classes.

“I don’t see a problem with it,” Roscoe said. “Everybody plays by the same rules, so that’s what you have to go by. There’s people that fall and have to suffer the consequences.”

The school district adopted the 2.0 GPA, based on a weighted scale to account for honors and advanced classes, in August 2009. The district phased in the policy by requiring no GPA for athletes during last year’s fall semester and a 1.5 GPA for participation in the spring.

The 2.0 requirement does not apply to freshmen, who are offered an adjustment period and need a 1.5 average to remain eligible for the second semester.

“Our young athletes are capable young men and women. They have the ability,” said Nancy Routh, a member of the Guilford County Board of Education and chairwoman of the governance committee. “If they start viewing themselves as being capable of achieving whatever the expectation is for the classes they’re taking first, and athletes second, that would be my hope.”

Page football coach Kevin Gillespie added: “Hopefully it’ll serve as a message to them for what they have to do, and they’ll get eligible for next year.”

Keeping track

Guilford County Schools puts the onus on students and parents to be aware of grades and academic eligibility.

“Our teachers do a lot of after-school help sessions with their students,” Hebbard said. “Some schools may have a formal tutoring program, some are more informal, but (the students) have to go to the teacher where they need help.”

The district issues report cards four times a year and progress reports in between.

“It gives you the opportunity to, if you think there’s a mistake, you can go back to your teacher who is responsible for the grade and say, 'I thought I had this or I thought I did that that counted,’” Routh said. “It’s a way of checking and verifying the progress that you’re making.”

Guilford County Schools is also launching an online progress report called Parent Assistant, being piloted in about a dozen schools this fall.

Hebbard said adults should point students toward help and monitor their progress.

“You’ve got to stay in touch with that student, even though he’s not on the team,” Hebbard said. “Check on the progress reports. You have to keep an eye on those kids, and the ones who are on the team right now. You’re playing football now, but your football for next year is going to be based on how they’re doing in the spring.”

A misconception shared among some parents and coaches who spoke with the News & Record is that students receiving D’s would be better off failing so they could retake the course in the summer.

“You can take the course over again in order to pass it, but the F will still be on your record and it will still factor into your GPA,” Guilford County Schools chief of staff Nora Carr said. “One doesn’t replace the other.”

Hebbard said he’s aware of only one complaint — from the Smith student’s parent to the school board during a public comments session — but there is no process to formally appeal academic ineligibility.

“There are reams of material about the fact that athletics are not part of a fundamental education,” said attorney Jill Wilson, general counsel for Guilford County Schools. “There is no constitutional right to play sports … or to participate in any other extracurricular activities. A court could look at whether the school has established a rational basis for its guidelines, but the basis of a minimum GPA is obvious.”

Contact Jason Wolf at 373-7034 or jason.wolf@news-record.com

Accompanying Photos

Margaret Baxter (News & Record)

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silvercannon2

September 5, 2010 - 3:37 am EDT

Good for GCS...it's about time the emphasis is placed on an education and not athletics. It's too bad that parents don't want to be involved in their child's school work until they are removed from the team for poor academic performance. There should be no complaints from parents, the opportunity to review their child's progress was there, the parents should have taken advantage of it.

Interested

September 5, 2010 - 8:29 am EDT

A few school districts have taken a step that all NC districts should take - kudos GCS! While athletics, and other extracurricular activities, do have their place, educational excellence must reign supreme. And while a 2.0 can hardly be considered excellence, it is, at least, a standard. These athletes and their parents had ample notification and a period of adjustment. Failure to take notice and action rests on their own shoulders.

Some youth see athletics as Wonka's golden ticket to a brighter future. And it is, but for very few. Generally speaking, perhaps 1% of participants will attend college on an athletic scholarship. On the low end, .3% of wrestlers will receive a college scholarship; on the high end, 1.6% of female golfers will get a ride. Football - 1.4%. (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6844161.html Not academic, but recent.)

Now what percentage of those college athletes will go on to play professional sports? Between the MLB farm system, the NFL, the NHL, and the NBA, there are approximately 2000 new positions available each year. Approximately 100,000 college athletes graduate each year. You do the math: 2+% of 1+% of high school athletes get Wonka's ticket.

Now ask this father who complained about his son's test scores - Does little Johnny need to achieve a 2.0 - a C? Does he need to have some basic academic skills? Does he need to have knowledge that will enable him to be employed somewhere other than a football field?

Again, kudos to GCS, its board, and the superintendent for putting the best interests, long term, of the students first.

buldawg

September 5, 2010 - 11:39 am EDT

This is right on the money. My kids run track and they know: Grades first; sports next; social networking later. If their grades start falling, Facebook goes away, if their grades keep falling, track goes away. Sports are great and the coach is right, many of these athletes need their sports program for various reasons, but the coaches, parents and athletes have to understand their academics have to come first.

Panacea

September 6, 2010 - 10:17 am EDT

Also, if a kid does not love sports enough to get the grades to stay on the team, how much does the kid really love the sports?

When I was a kid, good grades (B average was a mandate) were the incentive: if grades fells, I lost car privileges, and choir/band privileges. Driving and music were something I loved enough to make sure my grades were where they needed to be.

Athenarose920

September 5, 2010 - 8:28 am EDT

Grades are very important level of school if don't have good grades no play pure and simple. I think it should be in every school in North Carolina. If these kids go on to college they'll have good grades to get there and they'll need to be maintain a certain gpa to play sport. So we might not have another unc issue

Unaffiliated

September 5, 2010 - 8:38 am EDT

Silvercannon2: You are absolutely correct. Rules & laws are for everyone. All of us are responsible for our actions and the consequences of illegal behavior are in place. "Don't ask,don't tell" , it's ok if I don't get caught breaks down the fiber of morality,ethics and integrity. Character Education (known as "Values Clarification" in the 1970's) is knowing the right thing to do & doing it!

igliigli

September 5, 2010 - 12:27 pm EDT

NC Schools and Universities should get rid of all coaches and sports teams and concentrate on academics.

dusenberry

September 6, 2010 - 4:50 pm EDT

It seems that UNC is following some of your advice.

ltsparky

September 5, 2010 - 12:46 pm EDT

"A Smith student who has played basketball since he was 6 will miss the first two months of his senior season.
“Now he can’t play because he needed another two points on a test?” said the Smith student’s parent, Kenneth Whitmire, who also spoke before the Guilford County Board of Education and said that his son, who passed all of his classes, cried for several days and spent long hours in bed, depressed. “He was due to be a starter this year, captain of the team.”

GIVE ME A BREAK... Is little Johnny so "TOTALLY DEVASTATED" that he has to STAY IN BED AND CRY just because he can't play basketball?? If this child is so sensitive with parents that are going to WHINE & CRY before the school board about a lousy 2 POINTS then I have no sympathy or compassion for either of them. They need to refocus their priorities!!

I am a 50 year old parent and former BLS alumni who also played sports and was very active in numerous clubs, issues, and events during my high school days, but KNEW that if my GRADES were not kept up to at least a "B" average, then I wouldn't be allowed to participate either, because all of these various activites were known as ELECTIVES, not CORE studies as we called them back then. In my family, EDUCATION was important and was meant to help prepare you for life after high school, which led me to a successful Military career that helped me obtain double BA's in Foreign Language and Psychology.

I firmly believe that my discipline, dedication, intelligence, and work ethic gained from both my education and life expierences has helped me achieve the things that I currently possess. I am teaching my son that his EDUCATION COMES FIRST, and that sports, games, and other extra-curricular activities are well and good, but they are NOT be what he is going to school to learn to base the rest of his life upon.

johnodrake

September 5, 2010 - 12:59 pm EDT

Doesn't say what, if anything, the system is planning to help the underachieving students (other than a tough chit, I guess)

Panacea

September 6, 2010 - 10:19 am EDT

What it is doing to help all the other underachieving students, I suppose.

retiree

September 6, 2010 - 10:42 am EDT

You always hear others talk about what the school system is doing (or not doing) to help the underachieving students get their grades up, but isn't it interesting the same voice is not mentioned about what the parents are doing, or should be doing? The blame game is not on the schools but the parents is the key.

dusenberry

September 5, 2010 - 1:18 pm EDT

Wonderful, way past time pass em so they can play hit a wall. UNC is a prime example of John Thompson
school of atheletics over education.

Yoda

September 5, 2010 - 3:31 pm EDT

This is great news, I hope they don't back off one bit. Maybe the parents will now get involved with their kids learning. I know some parents see sports as a ticket out of poverty, they want their kids to make it to college then to the pros. And sadly that's all that matter's to them. I know I will be labled as a racist but so be it. It's in a lot of the black community's (not all but most) where this mindset is predominate. They put very little emphasis on education. I coached football for 3-4 years (in the lower leagues), raised 3 sons who play football, track and wrestling at school, I knew a lot of the kids that played sports and there was no way they were getting their education, I ask my sons how did these kids get to play? The boys said, these kids were given a pass, and help with cheating. And sadly it was almost always the black kids. I really hope this changes.

buldawg

September 5, 2010 - 7:14 pm EDT

Yoda you are an idiot!! This is not unique to any one race or socioeconomic demographic...the problems you voice are real, but you are an idiot to confine this to any one group of students. Rich kids, poor kids, black kids, white kids do the same thing.

Yoda

September 5, 2010 - 7:43 pm EDT

Buldawg,
There's no need for the name calling, I spoke the truth and you know it. You just don't have the fortitude to face the truth. Until people such as yourself face the truth and stand for it there will always be this problem. Further more, you know nothing about me, I might be a black man, one thing is for sure, I know what I said is a huge problem with black people. And no where in my post did I say it was only the black people having a problem, I think if you go back and read my post it's clear, I said, NOT ALL BLACKS it's also clear you have a problem with comprehensive reading that being said, understanding the meaning of the word "Idiot" you qualify.

Noun: idiot i-dee-ut
A person of subnormal intelligence
Adjective: subnormal ,súb'nor-mul
below normal or average
Noun: subnormal ,súb'nor-mul
A person of less than normal intelligence

Panacea

September 6, 2010 - 10:21 am EDT

Guys . . . it's these kinds of exchanges that caused the editors to shut down most of the commenting on these pages.

Disagreement is fine . . . name calling is not.

retiree

September 6, 2010 - 10:51 am EDT

Those who are helped with coaches and tutors in high school will also expect the same to be given to them in college (see current UNC scandle), because the end game is not education at all . . . it's about sports and the riches it might bring. A star athlete in high school is an average athlete in college, and one in college is an average athlete in the pros. Most will need an education to get good paying jobs since the dreams of pro sports is enjoyed by a relatively few. There's plenty of scratch golfers (can shoot par on most courses), but they can't even gain access to the Nationwide tour much less the PGA.

storm

September 5, 2010 - 4:14 pm EDT

So happy to finally see GCS require higher standards from its students. Now if only some of the local colleges would follow in their foot steps!!

justatchr

September 5, 2010 - 4:43 pm EDT

Congratulations, GCS!! Finally, you're sending the message that school is important. My only laugh is that the GPA is so low. Really? A 'C' average is good enough? Average?

I have a daughter who is a nationally ranked competitive athlete and if she did not maintain a 3.0 GPA, I would yank her out of training in a second. Not a 2.0 because in this world, "AVERAGE" is not going to allow her to be successful in life.

And the kid who was so devastated he could only lie in bed and cry? I cannot believe his parents are condoning and allowing that two year old behavior and then going in front of the school board to do their own whine to them? "BOO HOO...welcome to life, son," I would tell Junior.

I hope GCS doesn't back off one second. Not a tenth of a point.

oh good grief

September 5, 2010 - 7:57 pm EDT

"And the kid who was so devastated he could only lie in bed and cry? I cannot believe his parents are condoning and allowing that two year old behavior and then going in front of the school board to do their own whine to them?

Did it not occur to the father that he was telling far too many people that his son is a crybaby?

Poor kid -- wonder if the "crybaby" information has sifted down to the jocks and "wannabe" jocks at the kid's school? If it has it probably won't make the kid's life any easier. By the end of this week the kid will probably be saying,
"Thanks so much, Dad, I'll be in bed crying some more if you need to find me."

Uptownduces

September 6, 2010 - 12:12 am EDT

This is very sad that the minimum to play sports is a 2.0 GPA. We are requiring kids, students, to be average in order to participate and extra curricular activities. We should be pushing kids for more than just average. I remember High School and getting a 2.0 GPA required little to no effort. It is policies like this that are setting kids up for failure in life.

HotRodLincoln

September 6, 2010 - 2:48 am EDT

Hope some of this makes it's way to Rockingham county.

3boys4me

September 6, 2010 - 8:27 pm EDT

“Now he can’t play because he needed another two points on a test?” said the Smith student’s parent, Kenneth Whitmire, who also spoke before the Guilford County Board of Education and said that his son, who passed all of his classes, cried for several days and spent long hours in bed, depressed. “He was due to be a starter this year, captain of the team.”

Oh please! I don't think 2 points on 1 test is what kept him off the team. Also, just because he passed all of his classes, it doesn't mean he had descent grades......a 70 is passing. The rule doesn't say they must PASS their classes, but have at least a C in each class. That is NOT too much to ask!! I have a son at Ragsdale and we get progress reports every 2 weeks. Even if Smith High only gave 1 progress report between report cards, then the parents should have had some sort of idea that their son's grades were not up to par. Parents need to stop expecting the schools to raise their kids and start being an active participant in their kids' lives! Be an involved parent and know what your kids are doing (or not doing)! Also these kids need to step up and take some responsibility for themselves. It is up to THEM to get good grades, not the school's job to make sure their grades are up. This student is now a senior, which means he is almost an adult. Grow up and take ownership of your bad grades. he has no one to blame but himself!

mickey

September 7, 2010 - 6:46 am EDT

I just saw the dad in question on channel 2. "We were working towards his senior year so maybe he could get a scholarship." His son has a D average, and he thinks he should have a scholarship? My daughter was a top student, a scholar athlete, a student leader, someone of whom all her teachers said, "XXXX is the most wonderful person, a joy to teach, fantastic human being, etc, etc," and she did not get any scholarships. Granted we are not poor, but it is a struggle to pay for her to go to the school she chose. We will be paying for many years. Our choice I know. My point is that we feel we raised, and are sending into the world someone who will have such a positive effect on her community. That deserves a scholarship, not someone who can barely read and write.

Our tax dollars are being wasted on helping undereducated students get scholarships, many of which will be to schools where the students will do nothing to further their academic educations. This is a dead end for many, if not most (I am talking about the kids with the sub-2.0's, not the true scholar athletes with good grades). When they get out/drop out they will not be positive contributors to society. Guilford County is taking a step in the right direction and I pray they do not reconsider.

DaveW

September 6, 2010 - 10:43 pm EDT

Some of you may not know the whole story here. GCS phased this in gradually(the right thing to do)by requiring a 1.5 for last Spring. All freshmen are eligible during Fall semester and only need a 1.5 for Spring. Sophomores on up need the 2.0.Now the whole state needs to go to this policy and create a level playing field.Since 110 athletes are ineligible for this semester we can check again in January to see how well this policy has "hit home" for our GCS student/athletes.If considerably less than 110 are denied participation then it is working well. Reminder to all especially igliigli:Athletics REQUIRES ACADEMIC STANDARDS and no other extracurricular does. This 2.0 is a motivator that can reach certain kids like nothing else can.This has helped many graduate in the past and will continue to do so in the future.

JackK

September 7, 2010 - 12:27 pm EDT

I would like to see the breakdown by gender and sport, too. I assume that the majority of ineligible students are males playing one of the "revenue" sports: football, basketball or baseball. I also assume that most of the women's and non-revenue team coaches don't have much of a problem with grades. Frankly, I don't see what is so hard these days about getting C's; unless, of course, the student has been passed along until he/she finds him/herself in high school with an elementary reading level. But that's another whole can of worms.

Garth

September 7, 2010 - 12:32 pm EDT

I have to agree, Chess club, Debate, Marching Band, Journalism, Beta club (oxymoron?) all these extracurricular activities should have a 2.0 gpa, my problem is that all of them appear to support academics in one form or another. I understand Chess might now be called a sport in some lethargic areas and yes there could be a failing student in a chess tournament, alas it might appear more humorous to me than it should, but I doubt we have a long or serious problem of chess club taking too much study time. I would support this mandatory GPA as well but if my kid's gpa went below a 3.0 unweighted as most parents with kids involved in these activities there would be a day of reckoning, self monitoring is apparently sufficient at this time. Almost reminds me of the politicians that outlawed suicide. Was there really a need or benefit? RE the "Farside" cartoon of accountant street gangs. "hand over your pencils and calculator".

Forgive me, but I had a thought of being attacked by chess club parents for suggesting a minimun gpa of 3.5 to participate, half would be mad at me for so high when Rugby required only a 2.0 and the other half would be mad because it was too low.

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