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Decade was hard across metro area

Sunday, August 22, 2010
(Updated 3:05 am)

A recent Brookings Institution report bills itself as “a preview” of what the nation will learn from the 2010 Census, a sort of demographic snapshot of the nation’s 100 largest metro areas between 2000 and 2008.

For the Greensboro-High Point area, it’s not a pretty picture.

The report, called State of Metropolitan America, tracks how the decade of the 2000s went from bad to worse locally, starting with a recession that wiped out thousands of manufacturing jobs and winding down with the worst economic decline since the Great Depression.

Locally, the report says, the slumps produced:

  • a 45.4 percent increase in the number of people living in poverty;
  • a 13.9 percent drop in median household incomes;
  • and a 5.2 percent decline in wages for middle-income workers.

The numbers surprised even those who work with the needy.

“How are we going to fix that?” asked Craig Thomas, executive director of Mary’s House in Greensboro, which helps people pay past-due utility bills and rent, among other things. “It’s like a never-ending cycle. We seem to pull some people out of poverty ... but at the head of the river more people keep pouring in.”

But the numbers tell only part of the story. The picture becomes even bleaker when the rankings for the Greensboro-High Point area, which includes Guilford, Rockingham and Randolph counties, are considered.

For example, the region’s drop in median household income was among the largest of the nation’s 100 top metros. The area’s median household income — $45,251 — ranked 90th among the same group. And the pay per hour for middle-wage workers totaled $15.67, the 93rd lowest.

What’s more, upper- and lower-wage earners saw their pay decline, making the region one of only 18 in the country that saw across-the-board declines.

“Everybody is worse off,” said Alec Friedhoff, a research analyst at Brookings, a Washington think tank, “but those on the low end are sliding faster.”

That includes people like Carolyn Burns, a Greensboro resident, and her 2-year-old daughter. They survive on Burns’ $7.40-an-hour job at a fast-food restaurant.

“I’m worried about just making it,” said Burns, 33. “Sometimes, I have to choose. Do I want paper towels or do I want toilet paper?”

Burns says she doesn’t see the economic picture improving.

“I think things are in neutral,” she said. “I don’t see a lot of people going (back) to work.”

From 2000 to 2008, the report says, pay for the area’s low-income workers declined 9.1 percent to $8.08 an hour. Upper-income workers saw their pay drop 5.4 percent to $32.05.

For African Americans, wages fell 11.3 percent. For women, pay dropped 4.8 percent, the 98th steepest slide among the top 100 metros.

Overall, the report classifies nearly 40 percent of the households in the three counties as low income, adding that nearly 97,000 people, or about 14 percent, now live in poverty.

That includes one in five children, African Americans and foreign-born residents.

“It is alarming to me,” said Steve Key, executive director of Open Door Ministries of High Point. “I don’t think I would have expected that.”

Some local leaders blame the area’s poor showing, at least in part, on a redrawing of the nation’s metro areas early in the decade.

At that time, Guilford found itself separated from Forsyth County and joined with Rockingham and Randolph, two counties that have seen their unemployment rates soar past 15 percent and 12 percent respectively during the recession.

“Right now, we are half an apple,” said Keith Debbage, a professor of urban geography at UNCG. “No offense to our friends to the north and south, but we are stuck with Rockingham and Randolph.”

Even so, the decade did produce some positive turns.

For one, the area saw its population grow by 9.3 percent. While that can’t keep pace with booming regions such as the ones surrounding Raleigh (35.4 percent) and Charlotte (27 percent), the Greensboro-High Point area grew at a more manageable pace, or 1.1 percent a year.

By comparison, the state grew at 1.4 percent a year and the nation at 0.9 percent.

“We are not growing as rapidly as the state, but more rapidly than the nation,” said Don Jud, professor emeritus at UNCG’s Bryan School of Business and Economics. “I think that’s a rate that would not be uncomfortable to most people.”

The report also shows the area became more diverse and more educated.

The area’s white population grew by only 1.6 percent over the eight-year period. Yet other groups saw significant increases, including blacks (18.7 percent), Asians (59.1 percent) and Hispanics (80.9 percent).

Still, only 7.3 percent of local residents were foreign-born in 2008.

College enrollment also increased. In 2000, 36.2 percent of people ages 18 to 24 attended college or graduate school. By 2008, that number had increased to 43.9 percent.

Most experts attribute the increase to the difficulty young people had finding jobs.

Ken English, a 41-year-old Pleasant Garden resident, says he’s thinking about going back to school. He sure can’t find work. He’s been without a job for the past two years and has a 5-year-old son to support.

He says he’s applied for more than 1,000 jobs in that time.

“I don’t have any optimism,” he said. “I’d like to be optimistic and say things are going to get better, but they’re not.”

 

Contact Donald W. Patterson at 373-7027 or don.patterson @news-record.com

 

 

Accompanying Photos

Photo Caption: Greensboro (left) and High Point

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Waldo Leidecker

August 22, 2010 - 6:05 am EDT

I'd like to thank the Republicans, who through relentless ego, arrogance, deceit, and teminal greed have driven this country to the state it is in today. Yet these same pond scum obstructionists beg for the channce to "save" us? Just HOW stupid do these weasels think we are? They've done NOTHING to help the working people of this country and STILL their only pathetic, self-serving plan is 'MORE TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY, MORE UNLIMITED CORPORATE WELFARE." When you're in a hole, you don't keep digging it deeper, and the GOP is just itching to get their greedy little paws on the shovel. And what has our esteemed Senior Senator (up for re-election) done for North Carolina? Absolutely NOTHING other than play Bushie-Bobblehead and kiss the GOP's big, fat elephant butt - North Carolina be damned. THROW THE BUM OUT! REWARD THE RICH, PUNISH THE POOR - VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!

rmacz

August 22, 2010 - 8:46 am EDT

Waldo, wake up son, look pass your nose to see who voted for the $2000.00 park benches, tax hikes, and the stimulus package...ha!

onbe1kanoby

August 22, 2010 - 10:30 am EDT

It is all about the ones that have and the have not's and if your not rich you are the not's!!!!
Look tax cuts are not the answer, you have to pay for the schools.. with good education you give yourself and the hood a better chance for higher wages.. higher wages a bigger and better tax base! You have to pay! That is fact...
There are no MGF jobs any more! So Education is the only way out!

rmacz

August 22, 2010 - 10:53 am EDT

If anyone agrees with this premise, then the NEA has to be dismantled and their Unions abolished. The Democrat intellgentsia has become a stumbling block, and thank G-d for the US Constitution.

onbe1kanoby

August 22, 2010 - 11:07 am EDT

Dude.. $700 billion for a war! be real!!! The US has giving itself a bad as headache and it will take 10 years or more to recover

rmacz

August 22, 2010 - 11:35 am EDT

Shoulda known it, a member of Al Aqida...ha!

onbe1kanoby

August 22, 2010 - 11:44 am EDT

no sir.. 1st gulf war I was there! 2nd one support! So I was there 2... still its $700 billion.... wake up and smell the coffee

rmacz

August 22, 2010 - 12:30 pm EDT

I'm withcha, came in Al Jabayl, and then the three borders, but another 9/11 was too high to pay too. I liked the coffee smell...ha!

onbe1kanoby

August 22, 2010 - 4:26 pm EDT

Where you in the 1st. AD?

rmacz

August 22, 2010 - 6:39 pm EDT

No, by the way, appreciate your service to the Country!

cantwealljustgetalong

August 22, 2010 - 7:29 am EDT

Wow.. I agree with the comments above... Yet I am sure our electorate will go vote against their interest and vote for the policies and people that produced these woeful numbers. These numbers are staggering, even I the optimist are shocked by these numbers. People are trying to eat, people are deciding between toilet paper and napkins.. seriously.. I don't know how anyone would want to go backwards. The republican party talks a game but by judging by these numbers the reality is that they cannot Govern. Self interest never prevails over public interest, and that's what they are interested in. The funny thing is that according to this report even the rich suffered so their policies ended up biting their base as well. I sincerely hope for the sake of a lot of people that voters go to the polls on facts and not a bunch of noise and rhetoric...

awsmview

August 22, 2010 - 8:25 am EDT

The government, our government, is broken and we as voters need to fix it . . . . . by voting. If your state Senator has been in office more than two terms, vote 'em out at the next election. If your state representative has been in office more than Two Terms, vote 'em out of office. We need to put Term Limits on every publicly-elected official in the country.
I don't care how much you believe your Senator or Representative is doing a good job. They're not! Look at the government you have....that we have. How can you state they are doing what you want as the voter that put them there? How?
Vote them out of office. Do it !

This is the first step in getting it right. Just VOTE.

d_random

August 22, 2010 - 8:52 am EDT

Sorry, a one size fits all voting policy does not work and is not logical. I actually do research regarding candidates, not just vote them out because they were there more than two terms.

onetrickydude

August 22, 2010 - 9:54 am EDT

Anyone who thinks this administration is the answer needs their head checked.

Worst potus ever bar none

Suing Americans to cater/aid/abetting illegal immigrant criminals was the last straw as far as this administration goes. Treason flat out. If we do make it long enough to get these incompetents out of office it's going to take years to undo the damage done by barry and his cronies.

Democrats = those that will march for the right to murder babies but hold candlelight vigils for mass murderers

surfpoetess

August 22, 2010 - 9:41 am EDT

Unions... that's all I have to say. When will we realize that we need unions in this state to get fair wages and fair treatment.

onbe1kanoby

August 22, 2010 - 10:31 am EDT

AMEN

Lord Trigo

August 22, 2010 - 11:36 am EDT

Further proof that what we're seeing isn't a normal recessionary cycle but the long-term economic decline of the United States. Despite all this talk of Americans being the smartest, hardest-working etc., it doesn't mean much if there's someone in India or China willing to do what you do for a fourth of the cost. It was a good ride while it lasted, though.

DrMaryJohnson

August 22, 2010 - 12:35 pm EDT

Sayeth the UNC-G professor, “No offense to our friends to the north and south, but we are stuck with Rockingham and Randolph.”

Chuckle, don't think that the Rockingham and Randolph residents who read this rag (at least online) - and who are in deeper holes - and who come to "the metro" to shop and work and go-to-school and do business - didn't catch that - and don't appreciate all the smug ugly underneath that kind of sentiment.

What Lord Trigo said. But he left out the part about huge portions of the population wanting everything for nothing - and our current President/his administration FEEDING that sense of entitlement at every turn. Being "smart" and "hard-working" doesn't get rewarded in the same way that it used to be. That too is part of our overall decline.

I would also point out that Democrats have run this state (into the ground) for many, many years. Nothing to do with Bush.

As distasteful as it may be to admit, waging war is a HUGE part of North Carolina's economy.

I'm all for more unions to ensure fair treatment and very basic employee rights in our "right-to-work" state. But unfortunately, unions have largely morphed into their own top-heavy/corrupt cabals and do very little to help the ordinary worker.

Dogwood

August 22, 2010 - 1:53 pm EDT

Is Forysth County stuck with Stokes and Davidson counties? I'd rather be stuck with Rockingham and Randolph counties personally. NAFTA helped destroy jobs. PhD programs are a dime a dozen due to experts talking to experts with meetings after meetings. Alamance County is eastward leaning towards Orange County. Guilford is a powerhouse that will thrive shortly if and when it stops shooting itself in the foot.

DrMaryJohnson

August 22, 2010 - 4:50 pm EDT

But it cannot seem to stop shooting itself in the foot:

http://drjshousecalls.blogspot.com/2010/08/sayeth-progressives-in-greens...

Robert Garner

August 22, 2010 - 1:17 pm EDT

The problem is not Republican versus Democrat. There is enough blame to go around for everybody. This area's economy depended on textiles, furniture and tobacco. Free trade, advocated by both national parties, the Wall Street financiers, and big unions, moved the first two offshore. The third, tobacco, is in decline due to both health concerns and free trade. Our manufacturing work force must now compete with people willing to take several dollars a day. Our area's service economy can rearrange income flows, but it cannot create wealth. That is, when a plumber, a mechanic, or a restaurant worker, for example, earns money, then goes to Walmart to purchase a foreign made item, money leaves this area. For it to return, we must create and then sell something to the rest of the world. At least, we should create and sell to each other, to keep our wealth and productivity at home. This is not happening. The stabilizing components over the past decade here have been government, including education, and health care. They provided good jobs and good income for people to spend in the local economy. But the money was withdrawn from the local economy in the first place. Just like the housing bubble, there will come a time, and it may already be here, when there is no more money to be withdrawn from those whose income supports these two. The day of reckoning will mean lower tax revenue for local government, no matter how much rates are increased, and fewer people with access to health insurance. If we do not focus on our local economy in new ways, the decline will continue unabated. Please, people, look at the solutions offered by both parties - they are structured to support their own constituencies, and do not address the underlying issues. We need to do better.

DrMaryJohnson

August 22, 2010 - 1:55 pm EDT

Robert, just so you know, I don't have a political affiliation with one party or the other. Both have screwed me over royally over the years. But when it comes to ripping-to-shreds/sucking dry those in the middle and upper-middle-class who bought into the old American dream, worked hard, got the education and are productive-as-they-can-be-under-current-circumstances, the Dems just seem to be EXPERTS at it.

And when it comes to North Carolina, they are the party that has been in TOTAL control.

Your comment is spot-on.

hugh

August 22, 2010 - 8:13 pm EDT

Stuck with Rockingham and Randolph County is a good balance for the suburban sprawl that sucks the life out of people in this County. There is no soul and any attempt at culture is ephemeral and dissolves back into the sterile, robotic-numbed minds of the keep-up-with-the-jones' type that infest this former mill town.

Time Warner Cable is the one cultural aspect that unites all Gborings. What a crappy existence.

The best part about Greensboro is leaving every Friday and staying gone until Monday.

HotRodLincoln

August 22, 2010 - 11:57 pm EDT

"I don't have a political affiliation with one party or the other."
ROFLOL, that's what all my Republican friends tell me.

jkeelsnc

August 22, 2010 - 6:46 pm EDT

Robert, this is one of the most intelligent posts I have seen from a reader in a while. Keeping the economy local and voting for people who will do the same will do more good on a simple level than anything else we can. Whether it is items made in the triad, or in NC, or in the US. I recently went to sears and bought a new set of pliers and a ratchet handle to replace my broken one and I made sure they were made in the USA.

Furthermore, both parties cowtow to their respective audiences to get votes. If that means corporate welfare for companies in the republican case they will do it if it means a vote or some money. The same holds true for the democrats by catering to those who don't want to do work and have no desire to help themselves. Even if it means giving a handout to keep someone loyal the democrats will do it. Both parties are selling our country away to others. We have to all start being responsible. Thank you for your informed and intelligent post. I only wish more could see this.

itsallaboutyou

August 22, 2010 - 7:24 pm EDT

Robert, your post is absolutely right on! All one has to do is to look at the way things were i.e. (1995 and older). Since the passage of NAFTA, our area has been in decline. Thankfully, we've had enough small businesses that were well run to sustain us. We had budget surpluses in 1996 and earlier both locally and state wide.

It really isn't a mystery as to why we are in the shape we are in, it's how we get things back to the way they were. If we don't go back (to some degree) to the way things were, then the struggle will not end. There will be people that will read this post and say something "smart" like "we will never get textiles back or manufacturing" so stop talking crazy. I guess my reply to that would be "then what do you suggest"?

We really cannot continue to export our money and jobs to the rest of the world....we have to keep it here somehow.

rmacz

August 22, 2010 - 7:53 pm EDT

Hey folks, we are supposed to have oil off our coast, for starters.

HotRodLincoln

August 23, 2010 - 10:48 pm EDT

Let's hope we can keep it off our coast too.

skeety7

August 22, 2010 - 8:05 pm EDT

WOW all we need is another Republican in office and we will be eating garbage. This is the result of the Republicans and investment bankers. Sorry Tea Baggers you are wrong.

DrMaryJohnson

August 23, 2010 - 9:09 am EDT

Last time I looked, Bill Clinton and Barney Frank were not Republicans.

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