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Hagan must not forget promise to firefighters

Sunday, July 11, 2010
(Updated 3:00 am)

Sen. Kay Hagan is poised to turn her back on firefighters, EMTs and police officers in North Carolina by changing her position on promises made during her 2008 campaign.

Hagan won the endorsement of the International Association of Fire Fighters in 2008 and her campaign greatly benefited from rallies statewide organized by firefighters. While speaking to hundreds of firefighters from around the country at the IAFF Legislative Conference in 2009, Hagan reiterated her promise to support the Public Safety Employer-Employee Cooperation Act.

This bill, which was already passed by the House, would give public safety personnel the ability to have input into working conditions as well as resolve disputes that arise between labor and management.

It is a Jim Crow-era law that has denied firefighters the same rights that private-sector workers in North Carolina have enjoyed for 75 years.

Firefighters were there for Hagan when she needed us most. We were boots on the ground during her campaign and she benefited from the trusted endorsement of our organization.

The question remains, Sen. Hagan: Will you live up to your campaign promises or will you turn your back on us and prove those promises to be hollow?

Dave Coker
Greensboro

The writer is vice president, Professional Fire Fighters of Greensboro, IAFF Local 947.

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brian444

July 11, 2010 - 3:24 am EDT

Senator Hagan, I beseech you to turn your back on these firefighters and prove your promises to be hollow.

Sawdust

July 11, 2010 - 12:51 pm EDT

I wouldn't bet any money on Hagan keeping a promise.

rightwingnemesis

July 11, 2010 - 4:30 pm EDT

One thing Senator Hagan has done for firefighters, is help them stay employed! While Republicans scoffed at stimulus funds allowing states and municipalities to keep firefighters, police officers and teachers on the payroll, Kay Hagan supported passage of the stimulus funds. While states like SC and LA refused monies initially, they suddenly swallowed their sanctimonious words and are happy to have them.
So maybe Mr. Coker hasn't gotten EVERYTHING he wanted, he certainly can thank Kay Hagan and Democrats for still having firefighters on the payrolls.

danagain

July 11, 2010 - 5:14 pm EDT

The stimulus just bought time to prolong the inevitable rightwinger:

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jun/30/business/la-fi-0630-stimulus-201...

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/SBA-lending-slips-as-stimulus-cnnm-4157554...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/08/education/08educ.html?_r=1

And added to the debt, which concerns the primary owner, Communist China:

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSBJB00382720100520

But at least they like our debt better than Greek debt, there is a silver lining.

dubya

July 11, 2010 - 11:11 am EDT

Jilted union firefighters laboring under Jim Crow era laws are hardly the only ones disgruntled with the new Democratic regime in DC, Dave. Many other victims are experiencing that old 'left at the alter' feeling after putting their own boots on the ground for what they thought was their ticket to easy street. But this is what often happens when a group such as yours puts their faith in politicians. Polling data reflects this.

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What happened to the Pitts/Gibson comments? I had hoped to compare Gibson's brutish racist rant to the more enlightened diction of King Samir Shabazz, but the comments have been disabled.

2fer

July 11, 2010 - 11:56 am EDT

KSS's lyrics tell us what he is willing to do to make money, which is to say that KSS is playing a role that people pay him well to play. G's rants tell us what kind of person he is when he isn't playing a role to make money. That seems a significant difference to me, and it is perhaps one of the important points Pitts has made, but then, I'm not trying to drag the issue into the gutter, and KSS and G are both irrelevant to my tastes in music and film.

dubya

July 11, 2010 - 4:02 pm EDT

I don't know about King Samir Shabazz's musical career. I was referring to the nightstick wielding racist who blocked the door to polling places in Philadelphia and informed the whites who attempted to enter that they were about to find out what it was like to be "ruled by a black man".

Well, I've found out. Reparations disguised as health care reform and the AG turning a blind eye to racists who broke the law because they had the same color of skin as the president and himself.

purplevoter

July 11, 2010 - 6:05 pm EDT

OMG! I can't believe you're bringing up those fools at the polling place at 12th & Fairmont! What a joke! That's my neck of the woods, and I was living there when this happened. Everybody was laughing at those two gangsta wannabes! If you ever saw the video of that "incident," you'd see people, black and white, going in and out of the polling place and paying zero attention to those guys. It takes A LOT more than that to intimidate Philadelphians! Get a grip! And don't try to make a big deal over things - and areas - you know nothing about! LOL!!

dubya

July 11, 2010 - 7:26 pm EDT

Of course it was no big deal. It was members of the new black panther party making fools of themselves.

I wonder if you'd say the same if it were skinheads or klan carrying nightsticks outside a polling place in Jackson, Miss...

Liberals pretending to be incredulous over black racism is nothing new.

purplevoter

July 11, 2010 - 8:01 pm EDT

It was two wannabes trying to act tough and only succeeding in looking ridiculous. One of them was a local rap artist whose career never got off the ground due to lack of talent. Nobody at the polls that day paid any attention to them. I'm frankly surprised that anybody outside the area even heard about it; that story didn't last one news cycle in Philly. It was treated exactly as it deserved to be - as a non-event, completely bogus. It had nothing to do with liberal or conservative. It had everything to do with real versus faux news.

dubya

July 11, 2010 - 8:03 pm EDT

I still wonder if you'd feel the same if it were a couple of skinheads standing outside a polling place in Jackson, Miss. waving nightsticks and telling would be voters they were about to find out what it's like to "be ruled by a white man"?

dubya

July 11, 2010 - 8:11 pm EDT

dubya

July 11, 2010 - 7:57 pm EDT

You may be on to something, purplevoter. Maybe the AG thought it took a lot more than a black thug in front of a polling place intimidating old white ladies to intimidate Philadelphians, so he decided to drop the case?...

Other stories of voter intimidation by these 'wannabee thugs' are surfacing. Apparently it took place in locations other than Philadelphia. Texas was one other place. Can you vouch for the Texans being unconcerned as well, or does your power of mind reading stop at the Philly city limits?

BTW, I was living in G'boro when the kan/nazi shootout occurred. Therefore, I am an expert on this subject and know what was in Greensboroans minds that day as well. They, too, were unconcerned with the KKK march, until the bullets started flying.

purplevoter

July 11, 2010 - 8:14 pm EDT

Sorry if what actually happened in Philly that day isn't what you'd like it to be, but the facts are the facts. It was a non-event, a non-story, and the only people who got mileage out of it were the shock jocks on morning drive-time radio. If it was portrayed as a case of voter intimidation, it stands to reason the AG would look into it, but since there was no real story there, I can't imagine the investigation amounted to much. There was video of the incident at the time which clearly showed people going in and out of the polling station without being confronted or intimidated by the two fools in black swat gear. As to the rest of your comments, not worth responding to.

dubya

July 11, 2010 - 8:28 pm EDT

I'm torn here...

Should I take the word of a former DOJ official who says this was a clear case of voter intimidation or that of an anonymous liberal on a blog who was in Philadelphia and 'never saw it on the news' there?

You won't comment on what I say about the skinheads because you know you and the other liberals (along with the AG) would be screaming for their heads on a platter if that were to occur.

danagain

July 11, 2010 - 8:36 pm EDT

That double standard is conveniently omitted. Imagine the coverage if a couple white supremacists were hanging out in front of a polling place with batons, it would send chills up Chris Matthews leg to report it.

dubya

July 11, 2010 - 8:40 pm EDT

I'll bet it would even be reported on in Philadelphia... You know,...where they know a kook when they see one.

Sawdust

July 11, 2010 - 12:56 pm EDT

I guess that was my fault. I was just wondering what would happen to Mel Gibson if he said the same thing about n-words that kss said about whites, and I didn't say 'n-word', I said what everyone knows is meant when they see the 'n'word'. It's permissible to say "crackers" or worse when talking about whites, and it's ok for the revrunt Jesse Jackson to refer to 'Hymietown', but the n-word is not allowed.

rightwingnemesis

July 11, 2010 - 4:31 pm EDT

This is not a thread about Leonard Pitts. Please stay on topic.

Sawdust

July 11, 2010 - 7:49 pm EDT

Aye-aye, sir. I didn't realize that you were in charge. Just responding to dubya's question, which I thought was my right as an American. If you don't like my comments, why not just skip over them? Or go pound salt.

dubya

July 11, 2010 - 8:30 pm EDT

Liberals do not 'skip over' comments they don't like. They try to silence them. (and they've been pretty effective here)

casper

July 11, 2010 - 11:25 am EDT

This is what Liberal Politicians practice. They promise all the handouts to get to power, then they forget about the Handout Crowd when they get there. Next election she will promise them the same thing again, the Handout Crowd will gladly vote again in hope of more entitlements. You would think at some point the Handout Crowd would catch on, but there need for Freebies drives them like a drug addict. Sort of like a dog chasing its tale.

Sawdust

July 11, 2010 - 12:58 pm EDT

If only. The reneger-in chief certainly hasn't forgotten the handout crowd, is doing everything he can to increase their numbers.

casper

July 11, 2010 - 11:34 am EDT

This bill, which was already passed by the House, would give public safety personnel the ability to have input into working conditions as well as resolve disputes that arise between labor and management.

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What this bill really does is give labor the ability to drive management to its knees. What they really want is to be able to demand higher wage and benefits packages while holding management hostage. This has absolutely nothing to do with workplace conditions. When you decide to become a public service employee you agree to liveable wages, you are not rocket scientists.

2fer

July 11, 2010 - 11:48 am EDT

But you don't agree to be pissed on by those same politicians, conservative and liberal, who are otherwise ignorant of how to do or make anything of value and who are generally two-faced and untrustworthy, do you? It's hard to have two disparate whines make sense. You'd do better to stick to one whine per topic.

2fer

July 11, 2010 - 11:43 am EDT

"This bill, which was already passed by the House, would give public safety personnel the ability to have input into working conditions as well as resolve disputes that arise between labor and management.
"It is a Jim Crow-era law that has denied firefighters the same rights that private-sector workers in North Carolina have enjoyed for 75 years."

Forgive my ignorance, Dave, but what is "It"? I think I would be on firefighters' side in this issue, but the issue as you've stated it doesn't make sense in any English I understand.
I also am concerned that you are accusing Hagan of going back on her promise when it isn't obvious that she's had a chance to act on that promise. Is she on the committee that is considering a possible Senate version of the bill the House has passed? If she is on that committee, did she actually oppose the position she promised to uphold? Has the Senate committee reported its bill? Has the Senate scheduled a vote on whatever bill the committee might have reported? Has Hagan stated her opposition to the position she once promised to uphold on whatever possible vote might take place on whatever bill might have been reported? Are you creating a straw-man argument to make Hagan look bad when nothing she can influence has actually happened yet?

rightwingnemesis

July 11, 2010 - 4:35 pm EDT

Thanks 2fer, for exposing once again, the lunacy of those who hate the President so much they can hardly hold back from flinging epithets. Senator Hagan has certainly been in North Carolina much more than her predecessor....heck it seems I see her here in Greensboro a lot! That alone will keep her grounded to her constituency. While I do not care for a lot of Richard Burr's votes, I have to hand it to him when he shows up at an event without an entourage. Says a lot about him.

dubya

July 11, 2010 - 5:54 pm EDT

The vote has already been cast. Too late to do your homework now, Dave.

The reason Hagan has made no move on this is because her handlers, harry reid and barrack obama, have bigger fish to fry than firefighters who pine for control over their employers. With the midterm elections approaching, the democrat machine is focused on pushing cap and tax, gaining control over America's financial system, and how best to go about increasing taxes on the ever redefined number of 'rich' people to pay for their socialist schemes.

I'm afraid Dave the firefighter and his pet peeves are near the bottom of the government's 'to do' list at the moment. Besides, what's the government going to do to improve 'working conditions' for firefighters...legislate cooler burning buildings or make laws mandating fires that burn more slowly and not be affected by the wind or stored flammables?

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