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Backers search for way to save War Memorial Stadium

Sunday, May 2, 2010
(Updated 7:14 am)

GREENSBORO — Residents and leaders have no lack of ideas about what to do with the 84-year-old War Memorial Stadium.

But no one group seems to have the political will — or capital — to make any single idea a reality.

“Parks and Recreation cares about the field. The preservationists care about the stadium, and the neighborhood wants it to be a place that gets a lot of public use,” said David Wharton, chairman of the city’s Greensboro Historic Preservation Commission.
“It’s not been possible for anyone to coalesce around a single plan.”

It’s been five years since the stadium’s last minor-league baseball game. The lack of movement toward any commitment to transform it has frustrated the groups.

The city staff’s latest idea — a $1.3 million renovation that is as much demolition as it is restoration — has stadium advocates scrambling to come up with new alternatives.

Advocates’ ideas include looking for new pots of money and renewing political pressure to force city leaders into action.

“We need a champion to do this. We need some leadership on this,” said David Hoggard, a longtime advocate for the stadium.

The old ball field was built in 1926 as a memorial to the dead of World War I. Local residents chipped in to build it.

When organizers fell short of the money it would take to build a massive, U-shaped stadium, they build the J-shaped one instead.

By the late ’70s, what was then among the oldest minor-league stadiums was already proving out of date for folks in the baseball business. Team owners fought the city for decades to upgrade the stadium.

In the new century, private investors instead backed a modern downtown field, what is now NewBridge Bank Park.

Preservationists worried that the new field would mean the end of the Yanceyville Street gem, but War Memorial Stadium is being used as it was intended in 1926: as a home for amateur sports.

The stadium hosts more than 200 college and amateur league baseball games annually. It’s a function the Parks and Recreation Commission has fought to preserve.

Commission members have thrown their support behind the city staff’s recent recommendation: a $1.3 million job that will restore the historic arched entrance, but get rid of much of the inside.

The city staff has warned: If the city doesn’t get moving on spending the $1.3 million — bond money approved years ago — that cash might go to something else.

People who have fought for the stadium’s preservation say the plan amounts to little more than the destruction of the place’s historical significance.

“It was a bit jaw-dropping,” said Benjamin Briggs, executive director of Preservation Greensboro.

Briggs and others are researching ways to pay for more renovations, much the way the International Civil Rights Center & Museum did.

“We’re inspired by the civil rights museum’s ability to incorporate federal and state tax credits that are available for national register historic properties and how that might leverage the funding that the city of Greensboro already has in place,” he said.

But even if there were money for a large-scale restoration, there seems to be agreement that the city doesn’t need a large stadium. 

“It doesn’t make financial sense to put 1,500 seats in there when I don’t know the last time we had something in there that used 500 seats,” said Greg Jackson, the Parks and Recreation Department director.

Residents of the Aycock Historic District, adjacent to the ball field, have long hoped the stadium could become a focal point for the area.

One recent idea called for it to be turned into a city marketplace, with vendor stalls and an inviting plaza.

Some residents envisioned community events such as concerts.

But that  proposal was too expensive — estimated at more than $3 million. And it wasn’t agreeable to the city’s entertainment gurus or the sports lovers.

“What we try to do is minimize the use for things other than baseball,” Jackson said. “If you start doing concerts out there all the time, (the field) will get tore up. Then the college teams won’t like it too much.”

All that leads the stadium back to where it is today: an aging ball field with no plans for another life.

Hoggard is trying one more thing. Last Wednesday, he asked the city’s Historic Preservation Commission to consider making the stadium part of the Aycock historic district.

If that happened, it would be within the commission’s jurisdiction to approve renovations, which could prevent or at least delay demolition.

The commission will consider the issue at its May meeting. The approval process could take six months and would require City Council’s consent.

Hoggard isn’t sure whether the commission will be able to force the city to protect its own property by using its own laws against it. He said it might be largely a ceremonial gesture — but a powerful one.

“I think it’s at a desperate point right now,” Hoggard said. “It’s time to force their hand.”

Contact Amanda Lehmert at 373-7075 or amanda.lehmert@news-record.com
 

Accompanying Photos

Walter Robbs Callahan & Pierce

Photo Caption: The proposed renovations at War Memorial Stadium, shown in an artist's rendering, would tear down the park's roof and much of its seating, leaving only the historic facade. Metal bleachers would replace stadium seats.

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JoeScott

May 2, 2010 - 10:13 am EDT

$1.3 million. My question for Greensboro residents who have lived in this city longer than me: Is it worth it?

I moved here during the Bats' final seasons. They soon became the Grasshoppers and played at a brand new field which is a great venue to watch a ball game. So why do we need two fields? Obviously, we don't, which is why WMS has been demoted to the overflow parking lot of the Farmers' Market each Saturday. I'm trying to think of other reasons to save WMS, and I really got nothing. Yeah, it's a part of history, but should we hold on to that history in its physical form when that choice will tax the present to such a degree?

NRay

May 2, 2010 - 10:24 am EDT

Not everything that's old is worth saving. The facts are that War Memorial is poorly sited, ugly, shabby and now redundant. Most residents of Greensboro don't even know where it is, tucked away in a corner of the near-downtown area. There are many, many better uses for the scarce money necessary to restore the decrepit old lady to a more youthful look.

Theo

May 2, 2010 - 11:54 am EDT

It's just an old baseball field! It's jaw dropping to me to think someone thinks we need to spend 1.3 million dollars on an old baseball field. It appears Mr. Briggs has no idea what our current economic status is. How about we donate the field and just write it off!!

dhoggard

May 2, 2010 - 12:36 pm EDT

It's not "just an old baseball field". The stadium was constructed with donated funds as a memorial to those who died in WWI. Memorials should be revered and cared for. Greensboro has done neither since it was given to the city after construction.

It would be like allowing the Vietnam Memorial, with all of those names engraved, to fall into disrepair and then writing it off as "beyond saving" and tear it all down except for two or three of the panels.

I fear that too many in Greensboro are as short-sighted as the three commenters above and you will get your wish. It is truly a shame and speaks to the "out with the old... in with the new" mentality of people who have little to no appreciation for historic preservation.

To "why do we need two fields...". As the article states, WMS hosts more baseball games per year than does NewBridge Park. There is a high demand for the facility.

To "poorly sited... tucked in a corner"... Do you ever go to the Farmers Market on Saturday? The throngs there seem to know how to find that place, and it is right across the street from WMS and busting at the seams. Our plan is to expand the Market into WMS.

DaveW

May 2, 2010 - 1:00 pm EDT

The $1.3 million was appropriated for the stadium. Use it and try and get as much other funding as possible from all those teams that use the facility. I would hope they would pay for field maintainence,light bill etc since they would have to pay for that if they owned it.These sources include but are not limited to: A&T baseball, Greensboro College baseball, Guilford County Schools, Greensboro Parks and Recreation Dept( Greensboro Youth Baseball).
Also all of these sources could/should hold fundraisers along with historical and veterans groups for stadium preservation.

buzzman

May 2, 2010 - 3:58 pm EDT

DaveW - GREAT IDEA! I'm sure there are some wealthy locals who could write a check for whatever is needed. Those who are so passionate about keeping it, need to get out and look for that money!!! User pays is also a good concept.

citywatcher

May 2, 2010 - 5:10 pm EDT

There are a few reasons this stadium needs to be preserved. First it is a memorial to World War II veterans. It would be disrepectful to their memory and honor to tear it down. Secondly I think we are all aware the condition of the facility is poor and can in no way be used for modern professional baseball but the facility is a Greensboro architectural gem. You don't tear down something just because its old and in the short term doesnt have a viable use. I think of a number of structures that were torn down because they were old and didnt really have a good use at the time such as the 13-story King Cotton Hotel that stood downtown. It was old and in its last days was being used as a dorm for NC A&T students. Some saw it as an eye sore (like the old Wachovia Building which was turned into an upscale condo complex a few years ago.) But I think how today it could have been re-used as an upscale apartment building or a condominum complex. Now most of the historic structures on Davie street are gone. Davie looked a lot like South Elm St.

War Memorial Stadium needs to be saved. Its historic, its a memorial and its a fixture in the Aycock neighborhood and downtown area. I'd hate for the city to have one of those regretful moments of tearing it down like so many historic structures in our city because once its gone its gone forever.

citywatcher

May 2, 2010 - 5:19 pm EDT

Another thing that makes me sick to my stomach is the tearing down of the old cotton mill (Cotton Mill Square) and the nearby round house. That round house was one of three in the state and its gone forever. I look through the history books and notice a lot of GREAT architecture that was torn down and it really is a shame that the only way we can see them is in old black and white photos.

pragmatist

May 3, 2010 - 10:07 am EDT

The Coliseum in Rome is magnificent, not despite its decay, but because of it. If the Italians ever decided to totally restore the Coliseum, it would be a travesty. Thankfully, they have preserved enough of its functionality to keep it viable, without compromising its awe-inspiring antiquity.
Perhaps we can find a way, using the limited resources we have available, to do what they have done: respect the relic, while reviving its soul.
War Memorial Stadium is an historic structure. If it were completely restored, at the cost of millions, you'd still have to gut it and start over with fresh materials. That, in my mind, would be a desecration: 85 year olds are beautiful, unless they try to look like 25 year olds.
So, we're basically in Rome with WMS. And when in Rome, you know what to do. Right?
Let's use the $1.3 to preserve the meaning of the monument and not try to recreate history.

dhoggard

May 3, 2010 - 6:17 pm EDT

You sound like a pragmatist. I like pragmatists.

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