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County cut to health care would affect thousands

Monday, April 26, 2010
(Updated 1:51 pm)

— The Guilford Community Care Network added more doctors this year and is reaching out to specialists to help care for the county’s increasing number of uninsured.

But those efforts might be derailed if the county goes through with a planned $1.6 million cut to Guilford Adult Health, which would funnel down to Moses Cone’s HealthServe and High Point Regional’s adult health clinic.

The cut could “impact the care of several thousand patients,” said Dr. David Talbot, who works for Moses Cone Health System as medical director for HealthServe on South Eugene Street.

Most of HealthServe’s patients — about 75 percent — have no insurance.

HealthServe makes up just one piece of the Guilford Community Care Network. There are programs for immigrants, dental health and the other county-funded program, Guilford Child Health. The network also connects programs that work with the homeless, such as the Salvation Army’s Center of Hope.

Losing $1.6 million “will impact any of the network providers that has a need to refer its patients to a primary care medical home,” said Brian Ellerby, executive director of Guilford Adult Health and Guilford Child Health. Guilford Adult Health also oversees the dental program and the care network, which issues a card to participants so they can access services.

“Even now there’s limited access to care because there’s so much demand in the community,” he said.

The Guilford Community Care Network started in 1998 but strengthened in the past six years as more agencies joined the effort, Ellerby said.

The network provides case management, ensuring patients are following up on appointments and connecting to the resources they need.

“What Guilford Community Care Network has done is taken that whole medical home concept, and they’ve really built it, to be this very large community system,” said Dr. Marian Earls, medical director of Guilford Child Health.

That’s important because case management has helped cut down on unnecessary emergency room visits, which are more expensive than preventive care, Earls and Talbot said.

The funding to run the network comes from various sources: grants, foundations, small copays from patients, Medicaid and Medicare, and the county. The largest source comes from the hospitals.

Moses Cone Health System spent $110 million on uncompensated care in 2008, the latest year figures were available. High Point Regional Health System spent more than $50 million on charity and uncompensated care last year, President Jeffrey Miller said.

The hospitals have told county officials that they’ll turn over the child health program to the county if funding is pulled from the adult program. But they’re willing to compromise if commissioners restore at least some of the funding, he said.

Programs in the care network help people such as Ly Ngoc Kim, 58, who fled Vietnam where he was persecuted for teaching the Bible.

“From north to south, anybody that practices Christianity, they’re all in danger,” he said through an interpreter.

He was beaten so badly in 2007 that he suffers from memory lapses.

Kim has been unable to find work since arriving in the United States a year ago. The network helped him connect with a primary care physician and obtain medicine for his high blood pressure.

“This card has helped me a lot in my life,” Kim said in halting English, sometimes helped by an interpreter.

“I have nothing,” he continued. “I have no job. And I need to go to the doctor.”

Without the card, he could end up in the hospital or dead, Kim said.

Kim, a former school headmaster in Thailand, said it has been difficult finding work here. He lives with his brother and earns some money preaching part time at a church.

He is among an estimated 62,000 adults in Guilford County without insurance.

The number of uninsured has increased in the past three to five years as the economy has left more people unemployed, Talbot said.

And it’s not just the unemployed.

One patient at HealthServe still had her job as a fast food manager when an aneurysm left her blind in one eye, he said. But insurance had risen so much that she couldn’t afford it anymore. She now gets medical care at HealthServe, which works with about 12,000 adults.

“Who is going to take care of this person coming out of the hospital if there is no safety net provider?” Talbot asked.

Contact Jennifer Fernandez at 373-7064 or jennifer.fernandez@news-record.com

 

Accompanying Photos

Jerry Wolford (News & Record)

Photo Caption: Dr. Shannon McQueen laughs with Chozin Henryhand, 5, Thursday after Chozin wanted to listen to her heartbeat the way she listens to his  during a visit to Guilford Child Health. Guilford Child Health is part of the Guilford Community Care Network, a...

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MiMi

April 26, 2010 - 7:31 am EDT

Greensboro is cutting things which should not be....millions of $$$$$$$$$$$$ for a new jail....but they are going to cut healthcare for people.....this is like AMERICA is going to SAVE THE WORLD...but they are not taking care of the COUNTRY.....what is wrong with these pictures?

Beachwalk

April 26, 2010 - 11:27 am EDT

Maybe you can call B.J. Barnes and volunteer your home to house some of the prisoners in jail, so we won't have to have a new jail.

jstevenh1952

April 26, 2010 - 7:51 am EDT

Read between the lines people. Do the math. This program is too expensive on a per patient basis. It is ast time to start questioning these types of programs and explore less costly alternatives.

This is nothing more than an attempt to keep an overfunded taxpayer program on the books.

Until the almighty Obamacare kicks in, provide insurance vouchers for those that need health care. Oh yes, nice picture, but the kids aren't at risk here. This little heart sting of an article fails to mention the millions of tax dollars from both the federal and state budgets for child health care and insurance programs.

Panacea

April 26, 2010 - 11:03 am EDT

Really? On what basis do you say that these programs are too expensive on a per patient basis? What alternative do you propose?

These costs have to be paid one way or another. Either we can pay through programs like these, or we will pay it through higher prices so Moses Cone and High Point can cover the costs of uncompensated care . . . care that by the time it reaches them is MUCH more expensive than it would have been had it been treated in the community in the first place.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Prove that this program is too expensive, and there are "cheaper" alternatives. Otherwise, you are just hot air.

Beachwalk

April 26, 2010 - 11:24 am EDT

So you are saying healthcare is NOT too expensive?

Maybe that is why obama's and the democrat's healthcare plan doesn't do anything to reduce cost, They didn't see it as an issue.

jstevenh1952

April 26, 2010 - 1:13 pm EDT

I guess since I disagree with you views, I don't know what I am talking about.

This article gives no basis or cost on a per person proforma. In fact if it was a cost effective program, don't you think it would have been pointed out? In fact it is clearly the opposite. The cost per user is probably so high, that if mentioned the article would not have the intened desired effect, which is to keep in place another free spending government program.

A previous article in this paper pointed out that 53k people were affected. Although how they came up with number is also unsubstantiated. Even in this article it assumes that all uninsureds are a "tax burden" to the county.

But just for argument's sake, if you use that number (the 53k) and the dollars from the County, State and local Hospitals, the cost is $4,000 for a parent and two children.

As I said in my previous post, vouchers make more sense.

Issuing vouchers for health insurance would remove these folks from the system and place the responsibility squarely on their shoulders.

You seem advocate massive, expensive healthcare programs to support higher taxes. Much like the BHO regime.

I think I do know what I am talking about, and maybe you should offer more than just your opinion to qualify your position.

This is a very expense and largely ineffective program. And as much as it makes you liberal heart hurt, there are better way to do things than creating more government. You shouldn't talk with "kool aide" in your mouth.

retiree

April 26, 2010 - 9:05 am EDT

Imagine this . . . if the rate of growth of those who need health care (but can't pay for it) is growing faster than the ability to to get taxes from those who can pay for it, where are we headed?

Remember, it wasn't so much that GM couldn't sell cars that hurt them, it was the inability to continue to fund the growth of their pension and health care benefits for their retirees. Of course, now that the taxpayer has a majority stake in GM their benefits are saved, not trimmed.

Social benefits for the poor are great things that make you smile, tug at your heart, etc., but as one respondent said, do the math. If we don't we're headed for a socialist form of government where our taxes will escalate and eventually we'll be like Sweden or Norway.

Beachwalk

April 26, 2010 - 10:02 am EDT

we'll be like Sweden or Norway.

Or Greece, who is totally broke financially.

esther

April 26, 2010 - 9:18 am EDT

What’s one human beings life worth? What are many lives worth? Can we put a price tag on a person’s life and tell them, “This is your monetary value”? That’s what you are suggesting we do. Yes, health care is costly. Yes, health care for uninsured people is very costly since the underwriters of it are the county and ultimately the taxpayers. But are we to sit and decide who is worthy of receiving care?

You see, there are some people who have health insurance and have college degrees and could be earning a lot of money somewhere else but we chose to work with the indigent population and earn less than we are worth (in a monetary, worldly sense) because we actually see value in each individual’s life who walks through our door. We sit with misty eyes as patients let their tears fall freely while they say, “Thank you, thank God for this place because without you I would be dead.” These people that are too costly for you, are real faces and names to us. They are not a math problem to be figured out and determined that they are too costly.

Admittedly, I don’t do the math, I don’t do numbers and read each tax report with a magnifying glass to see how money is allotted. But I do know that the Guilford County Adult Health provides a valuable, life saving service to so many in our community and without it, these people would have no other place to turn.

So go ahead and YOU do the math. Better be glad you have insurance so that no one is determining when you’ve reached your limit of what you are worth.

Beachwalk

April 26, 2010 - 10:15 am EDT

What's one human beings life worth?

Well obviously it's not worth anymore than you are paying right now. There is no law that says you can't give every penny you have, to assist in paying for these people's healthcare. Why do you insist on using everyone else's money to do it. Come on, how much is a human being life worth? Put your money where your mouth is. And I will include all you liberals who constantly preach about "healthcare is a right". If it is so important why don't you send in more of your own money? There is no law that says you can't. In poll after poll conservatives are always shown to be more charitable. We practice our charity through our churches, clubs and organizations. Until you are willing to spend your own money on the issues you deem important, then don't spend mine.

rooster8786

April 26, 2010 - 10:04 am EDT

I think the previous postings miss the whole point of this exercise. The Commissioners, as "leaders", know when faced with a difficult choice always seem to put the most unpleasant "budget cuts" out for public consumption and the N&R eats it up as usual. The Commissioners work the same way the city council makes their cuts to police & fire and the board of education can only seem to cut teachers when faced with budget shortfalls yet all the pet projects get funding. If the "leaders" actually looked at the budget I am sure they can and will find fluff items EVERYWHERE that could be cut. If the N&R actually had a reporter do just a litlle digging, then the N&R could report on news that matters to the taxpayers, ie where all the fluff is in the budget. If the media would do their job and get the news out to the masses like they should, the citizens of Guilford County would all be better off.

speakup2

April 26, 2010 - 2:15 pm EDT

AGREED!...The Media should research and publish every dime that is spent..I bet the Media as well as the Public will be SHOCKED at how much waste there is. That the pet projects for the wealthy are where most of the monies go.

casper

April 26, 2010 - 7:58 pm EDT

Maybe you could give us some insight into all the pet projects being pursued, that somehow are designed for the benefit of the rich? Name just one? All of the projects that are going on in the city, benefit people who don't even pay taxes. Take your Liberal Socialist Ideaology and stick it straight up your A$$.

crabbyone

April 26, 2010 - 7:50 pm EDT

I AGREE!!! the taxpayer needs to know ALL of the abuses the county has made with their tax money. The taxpayer has a RIGHT to know what their money was spent on and the "Pet projects" that are a waste of money. They also have a right to know about the way services and items are purchased. I know savings coule be reached by the county doing things differently. Auto purchases (a hybrid vehicle that will take 30 years to recoup the fuel savings vs a regular vehicle), Kronos and the new time keeping system (that is abused by those not required to punch in or out), Lawson and the difficulties it has created for purchasing officers and this trip to Nevada for the commissioners (where we can't ensure they attend any of the discussions vs having fun). What a crock our county government is and how wasteful!!

buzzman

April 26, 2010 - 8:00 pm EDT

Moses Cone and High Point Regional could easily contribute more than the $1.6 million. It would be in their best interest to offer preventive services to those who need it because without those services, folks show up at their emergency rooms where the costs are considerably more. It would actually save them money. This is not 'rocket science!'

uncwgm

April 27, 2010 - 11:42 am EDT

Moses Cone already contributes millions to the community. As a non-profit their indigent care expenses have gone through the roof with so many people out of work and with the influx of illegal aliens in our area.

Maybe the county needs to cut their own administrative overhead and lucrative benefit packages instead of simply blaming others and pushing those requiring care to the Cone emergency room.

buzzman

April 26, 2010 - 8:02 pm EDT

When was the last time you read anything in the N&R that was based on good investigative reporting?

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