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Commuting via train could come back in style

Monday, April 12, 2010
(Updated 5:37 am)

GREENSBORO — In 1941, you could stand beside the railroad tracks in rural Guilford County and commute to Winston-Salem or Greensboro.

According to a 1941 Southern Railway timetable, passenger trains could be flagged

down at:

  • Friendship, a forgotten community on what’s now West Market Street extension across from the Piedmont Triad International Airport.
  • Down the tracks at Guilford Station, where College Road crosses West Market.
  • Farther east in the Terra Cotta community at Norwalk Street.
  • At Pomona, along what’s now Spring Garden Street.

On different tracks, between Greensboro and Reidsville, a man named Jess, a handyman in downtown Greensboro, commuted in the 1940s and 1950s by train from Reidsville.

Many years before that, Judge Robert Dick hailed a train daily in front of his house across the tracks from Fisher Park. He rode a few blocks to his downtown law office.

The flagging system was an early form of commuting. Now, transportation experts predict a sophisticated commuter system will be needed to get people and cars off crowded Triad highways.

In the old days, at some of the smallest depots such as Friendship, a red flag alerted an approaching train to stop for a passenger. Although autos had become more plentiful — railroads saw a decline in passenger traffic in the 1930s — some people depended on flagging to get to Greensboro or places beyond.

During World War II, a soldier in Terra Cotta, now part of Greensboro, could flag a train to Greensboro to make connections to take him to a faraway military base.

All the tracks remain that made possible this flag stop commuting, except for the northern part of old Atlantic & Yadkin line that paralleled Battleground Avenue.

Before the A&Y ceased passenger service in 1936, one could commute between downtown and Battleground (site of Guilford Courthouse National Military Park), Summerfield and Stokesdale.

The state hopes to bring back a smaller version of the 50 or so passenger trains that once served Greensboro, Charlotte and Raleigh.

The rail division of the N.C. Department of Transportation has announced that a second Raleigh-Charlotte passenger train, the “Piedmont,” will start running and stop in Greensboro in June. A third train is scheduled in 2012. They will join the Carolinian, which runs daily from Charlotte to Raleigh and New York and the Amtrak Crescent, a New Orleans-New York train that stops here.

Amtrak says eight Raleigh-Charlotte trains are needed to make commuting convenient.

The flag-stop system likely won’t return, but scheduled stops in the Piedmont are spaced so that people living in say, Graham, need only go few miles to Burlington to catch the train. Plans are also on the drawing boards for smaller trains — so-called “light rail” — that would perhaps serve outlying communities such as Jamestown and the growing bedroom town of Summerfield.

At Jamestown, either existing tracks (between Charlotte and Greensboro) could be used or another set built in the same right of way. For Summerfield, it would mean rebuilding tracks to replace tracks removed in the 1970s.

The state would like to run trains again to Winston-Salem, after a 40-year absence, and on to Asheville. Wilmington wants a return of passengers trains after a long absence.

Creating new trains and a commuter system will require costly track upgrades, new equipment and new stations.

Looked at another way, it would be doing what was done before.

Contact Jim Schlosser at 601-9879 or beale1@clearwire.net

Accompanying Photos

Photo Caption: A Southern Railway System Time Table booklet.

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blackstream

April 12, 2010 - 8:42 am EDT

It's about time! As long as the people running the trains don't get greedy and think they have to make huge profits from them, they'll really get a good response from people. If they get greedy, they'll go belly up in just a few months. You can make as much money with lower fairs and more people. For a trip under, let's say for example fifty miles one way, should have a set amount. Keep the prices in line with municipal bus fares.

KBNS

April 12, 2010 - 11:56 am EDT

Well this is a great start. I just hope it remains. After living in the North East, I'm so use to traveling by Commuter Rail and Subway. The Rail system would run from 5a - 2a. And of course, the subway 24 hours. But as I said in the beginning, this is a great start. It would be nice if they built an electric commuter rail system separate from NS & Amtrak. But would connect with Amtrak in the larger cities. But we all know, that's years away from now!

ChadinGSO

April 12, 2010 - 12:44 pm EDT

"...The flagging system was an early form of commuting. Now, transportation experts predict a sophisticated commuter system will be needed to get people and cars off crowded Triad highways...." Where are the "crowded Triad highways" you are referring to??? Sure, big metropolitan cities have successful rail systems, but that doesn't mean you can do the same thing in communities like Greensboro and have them show any remote sign of being efficient or profitable. The internet's ability of letting people work from home (even 2 days a week) is the solution to a reduction in oil dependency and "crowded highways"

Scot

April 12, 2010 - 3:07 pm EDT

Work at home, via the internet, crowded highways...

Wow, that's great, I am in over the counter sales, please tell me how to do it, even if for only two days a week. $5/gal gas will resolve the crowded highways issues. Let's just hope that we can have some decent transit in place by then.

ChadinGSO

April 13, 2010 - 3:29 pm EDT

My comment about working from home on the internet will help communities with traffic congestion..which I dont think the triad has an issue with to begin with. But anyways, It is also starting to help our nation as a whole reduce its carbon footprint. Working from the internet is obviously not something everyone can do. For those who can't, we already have decent public transit in place right now. Its called the bus which by the way there is plenty of room for expansion. How can you change your commuting habits? Stop selling products over the counter and sell them online, get a different job, ride a bike, take the bus... Creating a extremely expensive rail system for the triad is a joke. Not to mention the money it would cost to run and maintain it. "Money doesn't grow on trees".

Bosco

April 12, 2010 - 3:36 pm EDT

Hurry and build the new Downtown Charlotte station. Right now the train dumps you in no man's land way up North Tryon St. Looking forward to riding the train to Panthers games. I-85 on Sunday afternoon is miserable

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