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Leonard Pitts Jr.: Don't allow anonymous comments online

Wednesday, March 31, 2010
(Updated 3:00 am)

It must have seemed like a great idea at the time.

There was this new medium, the Internet, and newspapers were posting stories on it, and someone decided to create a forum where readers could discuss and debate what they just read. It must have seemed an inspiration kissed by the spirit of Jefferson: a free public space where each of us could have his or her say.

Unfortunately, the reality of the thing has proved to be something else entirely. For proof, see the message boards of pretty much any paper. Or just wade in the nearest cesspool. The experiences are equivalent. Far from validating some high-minded ideal of public debate, message boards -- particularly those inadequately policed by their newspapers and/or dealing with highly emotional matters -- have become havens for a level of crudity, bigotry, meanness and plain nastiness that shocks the tattered remnants of our propriety.

For every person who offers some trenchant observation on the point at hand, there are a dozen who are so far off point they couldn't find their way back with a compass and road map. For every person who brings up some telling fact, there are a dozen whose "facts" are fantasies freshly made up to suit the exigencies of arguments they otherwise cannot win.

Why have message boards failed to live up to the noble expectations? The answer, in a word, is anonymity. The fact that on a message board -- unlike in an old-fashioned letter to the editor -- no one is required to identify themselves, no one is required to say who they are and own what they've said, has inspired many to vent their most reptilian thoughts.

So, some of us are intrigued by what recently happened in Cleveland. It seems someone using the alias "lawmiss" had posted provocative comments and scathing personal attacks on the Web site of the Cleveland Plain Dealer. Some of those comments and attacks evinced an unlikely familiarity with cases being heard by a local judge, Shirley Strickland Saffold. When lawmiss made a comment about the mental state of a reporter's relative, the paper decided to trace the nickname. It found that the postings came from Judge Saffold's personal e-mail account.

Saffold claims her 23-year-old daughter authored the comments. Sydney Saffold, who lives in another city, supports her mom's story. Believe them if you choose.

Meanwhile, the paper has been criticized by some observers for unmasking lawmiss, and there is some merit to that. It's wrong to offer anonymity, then yank it away. But it would've been more wrong to have evidence that a judge viewed an attorney appearing in her court on a capital case as "Amos and Andy" -- to use one example -- and do nothing about it.

The larger point is that the paper should not have offered its message posters anonymity in the first place. No paper should. A confidential source necessary to break the big story is one thing. But the only imperative here is to deliver more eyes to the Web site.

As any student of Sociology 101 can tell you, when people don't have to account for what they say or do, they will often say and do things that would shock their better selves.

That's the story of the mousy schoolteacher swept up in the window-breaking mob during the big blackout. It's the story of the milquetoast accountant who insults the quarterback's mother from the safety of the crowd. And it is the story of newspaper message boards, which have tacitly approved the worst of human nature under the guise of free speech.

Enough. Make them leave their names. Stop giving people a way to throw rocks and hide their hands. Any dropoff in the quantity of message board postings will surely be made up in the quality thereof.

That's my opinion. If you don't like it, well, at least you know who to blame.

Leonard Pitts Jr. is a columnist for the Miami Herald. Send e-mail to him at lpitts@miamiherald.com.

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Get A Clue

March 31, 2010 - 3:16 am EDT

But will the N&R follow suit and set policy to never print any article with unattributed sources, no article without citable sources? (I won't hold my breath on that one.)
And how will the N&R verify that Joe Smith is Joe Smith from Main Street, Greensboro instead of Joe Smith from Broad Street, High Point?
Every poster must already log on via a verifiable e-mail address. That's rope enough to hang anyone breaking any laws with their comments.
I wonder if this country would be richer or poorer with noted statesman Benjamin Franklin's experiment in anonymity, "Silence Dogood." What one says in the light of day or from behind an anonymous name is not more or less true because we think we know who said it.
Finally, these 'cesspools' exist for one primary purpose: to generate page-click ad revenue for an industry drowning in red ink. Newspaper web sites hold their noses and look the other way since this is one of the few positive revenue streams they have left.

laserguidedloogie

March 31, 2010 - 7:30 am EDT

God what a bunch of whiny, snot dribbling nonsense.

Beyond the fact that there are a HUGE number of forums, blogs and static sites all over the net that take comments, and that regulating them all the is sort of undertaking that could only happen in the narrow confines of Leonard Pitts tiny mind, there is the added complication of who would be in charge of this monumental endeavor.

Pitts, like most of the ignorati who inhabit the dinosaur media, finds it absolutely intolerable that the people can actually get news and, express their opinion of it, without having to get permission from commie central.

Why, back in the day, Pitts could expound on all manner of absurdity, without ever having to lower himself consider what lesser folk might have to say about it. It was a captive audience and he LIKED IT THAT WAY!

Now, everyone has an opinion. Isn't that awful?

-Ken
http://www.LaserGuidedLoogie.com

universalgenius

March 31, 2010 - 7:32 am EDT

What a lousy commie loser. There he goes again. This braindead crackhead hetrophobe radical liberal pervert is at it again this time trying to control the internet and destroy the world of high tech with his facist ghetto low IQ mentality.
We have a better idea. Why dont racist bigoted Pitts who claims afterall to be African American and is constantly whining about such liberal stupidity and ignorance like slave reparations, freedom for Muslims in America, illegals being made full citizens with voting rights etc, put his money where his mouth is and move to Liberia as suggested to help his brothas and sistas who cant seem to get it going after 175 years and mega billions in free loot off taxpayers. Afterall Liberia is the ideal situation and a completely paid for free nation for freed slaves to return to and this was 60 yrs even before proletariet Lincoln and his Marxist war entered the scene since we know the Manifesto was published in 1848.

Mr Pitts is obviously nothing but a whiny yellow coward hiding behind his affirmative action job typing his lunatic garbage to all America causing normal people to go astray calling for rebellions and violent overthrows in the past although since his boy Obama is now in office converting this nation to socialism and the USSR again he loves DC all the while trillions more in debt are piled on.

Comeon dumb dude. Get off your crackhead high horse and get your worthless azz in gear to go help Liberia get out of poverty death disease. This is your roots and your destiny. Living in the white man western world is too easy while your people suffer in reality. Otherwise get the African out of your name as you are unworthy. And dont be afraid of the cannibals. Its reality. Fix Liberia and it will could help fix the whole continent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmrkTi3EHqk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVSL8RG8l4w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQSjyYRTDVM

dcolin

March 31, 2010 - 1:25 pm EDT

"universalgenius"
March 31, 2010 - 7:32 am EDT

"What a lousy commie loser. There he goes again. This braindead crackhead hetrophobe radical liberal pervert is at it again this time trying to control the inte"

Beats being a coward.

Beadbaby

March 31, 2010 - 8:02 am EDT

I completely disagree with Mr. Pitts this time; I don't see anonymity going away on the Internet any time soon. I like my anonymity and don't want to give it up.However, I don't abuse the privilege. My negative comments are directed at the content and are polite.

Case in point: universalgenius, your comments actually support Mr. Pitts' contention. If you had to sign your name to what you said, I doubt you'd have made such outrageously racist remarks as "go help Liberia out of poverty" and "this is your roots and your destiny," the gist of which is "go back to Africa where you belong." Unless you are 100% Native American, universalgenius, you or your ancestors also came here from somewhere else. Are you prepared to go back to Europe or Asia? The comments you made could get you fired from many jobs.

Get A Clue

March 31, 2010 - 8:04 am EDT

Bb, that's exactly why he's now the night shift 'associate' at the local gas 'n' go mini-mart? ;-)

worker ant

April 1, 2010 - 1:54 am EDT

GET A CLUE, I agree, there's nothing I despise more than all those low-down scum-bag night shift "associates" at all the mini-marts.

Panacea

March 31, 2010 - 8:34 am EDT

I also agree that Mr. Pitts is off base on this one.

I agree with his assessment of some of the behaviors that go on under the cloak of anonymity, and that some of those behaviors go beyond crankiness into the infantile and threatening. There are many who say things online, under a handle, that they would never say in public, universal"genius" being a case in point.

Nonetheless, requiring posters to use their real names is not a solution, for a variety of reasons.

Firstly, it would be hard to implement. Many smaller newspapers don't have the staff to enforce use of proper names, heck they can barely police the comments themselves. Blogs owned by individuals, of course, can do what they want.

Second, there is a long tradition of using pseudonyms in political commentary. The Federalist Papers, and many other polemics of the time, were written by the Founding Fathers under pseudonyms.

Third, using proper names does not guarantee fairness. It is easy to mistake one person for another, especially if the name is a common one. I can foresee incidents where a poster, using their real name, is mistaken for another person, and that innocent person is punished for the comments of the original poster.

Case in point: last year a woman named Susan Barnes posted an outrageous LTE in response to a Charles Davenport editorial on his hospital visit, hinting Davenport might be on the receiving end of retribution from nurses for his comments. Someone looked up the name on the NC Board of Nursing website, and proclaimed that the LTE writer was that Susan Barnes. However, it was NOT the same Susan Barnes! The writer is not a nurse, and later acknowledged she was not the Susan Barnes who IS a nurse. However, Susan Barnes the RN was made very uncomfortable by that LTE; it impacted her job negatively until the matter was cleared up (I know this because I happen to know Susan Barnes the RN).

I don't want to see another incident like that, or a worse one where someone actually DOES lose their job. People are already getting themselves into all kinds of trouble on Facebook. People have been getting themselves into trouble for sending inappropriate emails with things like porn to the wrong people for years.

The solution to the problem is two fold: educating people that once you say something you cannot unsay it, and a willingness of the online society to not tolerate behavior that is too extreme. Many message boards already do this and have rules of the road that are self-regulated by moderators who get the job by being frequent posters who are helpful to new kids on the block, and who follow the rules themselves (the moderators themselves are overseen by the site administrator, who makes sure moderators don't abuse their authority).

Perhaps the N&R could consider something similar here.

General Greensboro

March 31, 2010 - 10:14 am EDT

Pitts is probably fighting a losing battle here.

But let's turn the question around: How many of you would post comments on this site using your real names? If not, why not?

GG

Get A Clue

March 31, 2010 - 11:18 am EDT

Several good reasons have already been listed.
Why not change the policy and find out? ;-)
Or simply post the person's e-mail address, once verified, next to their online name. Many blogs do that; it allows people to respond to an individual. (Smart folks keep a hotmail or yahoo account for such purposes.)

Panacea

March 31, 2010 - 12:23 pm EDT

I might hesitate, but I probably would continue to post under my own name. I've posted under my own name on Fox 8's blog when discussing health care reform.

thevanished

March 31, 2010 - 1:27 pm EDT

Okay, Sweetie, let's turn the question around.

How many of your readers would come back and re-subscribe and increase that revenue stream if you were closer to the mainstream?

How many would like to see a pro-White viewpoint on at least one out of ten commentaries?

More people would be glad to provide real names if their beliefs in two-parent families, a relatively crime-free society, and safe schools were nopt constantly decried as "racis." Sorry -- the "t" was stolen.

Panacea

March 31, 2010 - 1:51 pm EDT

I believe in 2 parent families, a crime free society, and safe schools. Most African Americans, Hispanics, Asians, and folks from other races/cultures believe in the same thing.

A "pro White" commentator is racist by its very definition. You don't have to be white to believe in the values of family, public safety, education, and so on. Your problem is, you don't believe anyone who isn't white can believe in those values. You would be wrong.

thevanished

March 31, 2010 - 2:04 pm EDT

So, sockpuppet boy, having Lennie Pitts is okay?

Sure blacks want safety but so many of them fail to adhere to rules that White people flee to the suburbs to get away from them.

Why will the NR not include a single pro-White columnist? Just try it and see if there is a change. Your paper cannot be worse than it is now. Comments on an online forum are okay and as fun as playing with two-headed snakes, but having a mouthy black guy who constantly complains about Whitey, and then 20 or so people who disagree and one or two guys (getaclue, dcolin, 2fer) hiding behind sockpuppets --- That does not pay the bills of the NR>

Get A Clue

March 31, 2010 - 10:10 pm EDT

You have Charles Davenport, Jr.
It doesn't get any whiter than that.
;-)

mongooseboy

March 31, 2010 - 2:14 pm EDT

Please explain to me, why " a PRO white" Commentator is racist by its very definition? If by meaning that it assumes that the commentator would be moving forward ONLY on items that benefit the white agenda, then I would agree with you. as the word PRO WHITE insinuate. But then again, The NAACP is considered racist also, as it moves forward, more or less, with the agenda to promote only said activities to benefit one race (although they do LEGALLY say that they assist minorities and impoverished folks as well, the CORE reason they exists remains the same)
So, by that meaning Panacea, then
The Congressional Black Caucus is Racist, after several white politicians asked to join and were rebutted ot ouright ignored.
Afirmative Action is racist, after all it takes one minority person (of any race), and often replaces a more qualified person, just to make the numbers work.
Is it not as Racist, to disqualify a Highly qualified white individual from a job or school , simply so someone who can call themselves a minority, can sweep in and take that position to put more "diversity" into the mix?

Any GOOD STRONG STANDING family believes in family values because thats what makes us american, they also agree that puplic safety and education should be a priority. and for that matter, I do believe no matter what the race, it is equally important and I will agree with you on that.

Conundrum

March 31, 2010 - 5:37 pm EDT

Great post!

EllenMetter

March 31, 2010 - 11:39 am EDT

Excellent commentary, well-reasoned. Thank you, Ellen

countryboy

March 31, 2010 - 11:43 am EDT

Most post in anonymity due to fear of employer reprisal...and certainly some employers would be harmed by employees comments being associated with their business. But here is the interesting comment from Pitts..."But the only imperative here is to deliver more eyes to the Web site". This sadly has become the sole imperative of most media in recent years. It is the reason the N&R will print comments from relatives of suspects claiming the person could not have been responsible...could not have been drunk...could not have fired at police...etc., even though the person quoated has NO knowledge of the event (that's my pet peave with the N&R). The drama sells ads...truth be damned. Which brings us back to Mr. Pitts entire existence.

dcolin

March 31, 2010 - 1:23 pm EDT

"countryboy"

Says it all

mongooseboy

March 31, 2010 - 2:22 pm EDT

yes Countryboy says it all, I agree. It says
1. HE is the one to lend a hand a 3 am in the morning to get your car running so you can make it to work the next day.
2. HE is the one to cut that tree out of your yard and shovel your driveway for you.
3. HE is the one who is self sufficient and goes to church on sunday morning and has sunday lunch at home with his family.
4. HE is the one doesnt complain when its 100 degrees out, or 10 degrees out and theres a job to be done, he does it.
5. HE is the one who gives you the shirt off his back, cause his momma raised him that way
6. HE is the one who grabs the arm of his elderly neighbor to help her up her porch steps

YOU could do well to be a country boy.

dcolin

March 31, 2010 - 3:57 pm EDT

Ok,

Then he should be proud of his real name.

That was my point.
How about you

Get A Clue

March 31, 2010 - 10:12 pm EDT

So these fine traits are exclusive to country boys?
Not city men?
Not women?
Have any....proof to back up your statements?
Thanks for playing. ;-)

worker ant

April 1, 2010 - 1:38 am EDT

He never said these fine traits are exclusive to country boys. Thanks for playing.;-)

laserguidedloogie

March 31, 2010 - 5:39 pm EDT

People who say, "why not use your real name, what are you afraid of," are either being disingenuous, or else they are so leftwing that they never have to worry about leftwing nutcases showing up at your door at 3 am.

To the annoyance of some, I actually post the URL of my political blog as well as my first name, at the end of every post. This is more than promotion, it is a way of branding. It *IS* a way of standing up and being accountable for my views. I say nothing I'm ashamed of, and nothing I'm not willing to defend.

If anyone really wants to find out who I am, they can ask my hosting provider who, under the Patriot Act, will probably be happy to comply provided you can prove that you are a LEO, know a LEO, or maybe have watched a few cop shows at some point.

But the people pushing the end of anonymity on the web, notwithstanding their pious claims of 'accountability,' are really agitating for harassment and intimidation of people they disagree with.

Pitts and his leftwing ilk command the heights of public opinion in this society and they know dammed well that preventing people from being (relatively) anonymous would have the effect of silencing dissent to the reigning leftist orthodoxy in America (which is of course what they want).

Even on my rather modest blog, I have received death threats, I get malicious attacks, and I get signed up to spam lists. I have no real confidence that law enforcement, especially as SPLC and ADL propagandized as they are, will refrain doing similar stuff to me, but I take what protection that I can get.

If I really wanted to be free from attacks however, I would just shut up, or spout the same whiny communoid pablum that we find elsewhere in this paper. But I happen to think that truth matters, and as long as I can speak it, I will.

Ken
http://www.LaserGuidedLoogie.com

Eliza_Blake

March 31, 2010 - 9:16 pm EDT

Make people use their names!

Lynn Anderson

April 3, 2010 - 4:45 pm EDT

Mr. Pitts is 100% correct. Everyone should stand up to ones convicitons. To post anonymously is an easy way out in order to attack and denigrate. Let's get some integrity back and clean up Talk Forums. It is up to those forum owners to apply rules of decency intead of just being interested in "shock jock" commentary in order to drive hits to their site. These posters are people that have never risen from the sandbox and are the worst possible contribution to society if you can even give them that much credit.

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