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Countywide trash pickup could face opposition

Friday, March 12, 2010
(Updated Saturday, March 13 - 6:11 am)

GREENSBORO — Guilford County is still refining its plan for universal garbage pickup, which will provide garbage service for all county residents living outside incorporated cities. County leaders hope they can have a plan in place by the end of the year.

“We’ve had a meeting with the solid waste committee, and we’re looking at all the details that have to be covered,” said County Commissioner Kirk Perkins. “It’s kind of tricky because we want to be sure we do it right when we do it.”

County residents have to pay private garbage services if they want collection — or haul their trash to a landfill themselves. Perkins and county staff members envision a system where private companies bid to handle all garbage collection in the county.

Those living in incorporated areas with their own garbage collection wouldn’t be charged. Those who need the service likely would pay less for it than they do now with the cost spread countywide — and people might be more inclined to use the service if they’re already paying for it, Perkins said.

A key problem the new plan would address: residents who don’t pay for pickup and dispose of their garbage in dangerous and illegal ways. Perkins said dumping in woods and gullies has long been a problem in the county — as has burning garbage.

Commissioner Billy Yow said he thinks the issue of illegal dumping should be taken up by the health department and not by imposing what amounts to a tax on people who may be doing nothing wrong. Not everyone creates the same amount of trash, Yow said, and some people who live in apartments or mobile home parks already have dumpster service.

“It’s government coming into people’s lives where it doesn’t belong,” he said. “It also shuts smaller hauling businesses out if they can’t service the whole county. Why put people out of those jobs?”

With the state banning plastics such as drink bottles from landfills last October, Perkins said it seemed the time had come for a system that would put waste disposal in the hands of professionals throughout the county.

“There are a lot of gaps in service right now,” Perkins said. “In the county, if someone rents a house but there’s no garbage pickup service, they have to figure out what to do with it. They bring it to neighbors who have collection. They sometimes bring it to business dumpsters. They even take it into the Greensboro city limits. There needs to be some better system.”

Some county residents who already pay for garbage pickup said they would have no problem with a countywide system.

“If it might even end up saving us money, I don’t see a downside,” said Karen Olsen . She said her family produces so much trash she can’t imagine hauling it themselves.

“Even if you take it to a landfill, you usually have to pay per bag. The whole thing is you just can’t get something for nothing.”

But residents who dispose of their garbage themselves said they don’t like the idea of the county charging them to have someone else do it.

“There’s no way anybody from the county or people they hire can do it better or cheaper for me than me just hauling it myself,” said Jim Scott, 48, a county resident who said he hauls trash in his pickup once every few weeks.

“But they’ll still charge me for it.”

Contact Joe Killian at 373-7023 or joe.killian@news-record.com

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bonusbaby

March 12, 2010 - 7:13 am EST

Why doesn't the county open a few collection points instead? The biggest problem for county residents who do not want to pay for trash pickup is that it is not convenient to go to the landfill due to distance and the hours that they are open. We don't want mandatory trash service, just make it a bit more convenient for us.

Panacea

March 12, 2010 - 8:17 am EST

Trash is a public health problem, which is why Yow suggests having the health department deal with the issue of illegal dumping.

Problem is, you have to catch them in act. Hard to do. If you just provide a county wide service, then people who would illegally dump can have their big waste products (tires, appliances, etc) picked up with their regular trash collection, just like us folks who live in the city. They can also be offered recycling. High Point recently gave all residents the big green collection cans; this was fantasic for me as it makes it sooo easy and simple to recycle.

It makes no sense to encourage a system where people illegally dump. Toxins get into our drinking water. It looks awful, and smells awful. It promotes the spread of disease, and attracts insects and other pests.

Perkins is right.

jeffjet

March 12, 2010 - 8:25 am EST

Question to N&R: What happened to the other comments posted from yesterday? Is this the way that your staff tries to direct the discussion; just delete those comments you believe aren't in line with your position? Freedom of Speech at its best!

Might be why your readership continues to decrease.

RonaldusMagnus

March 12, 2010 - 9:15 am EST

I hope that they are not deleting comments. I enjoy the comments more than the stories. You get both sides of the issue, not just the N&R left wing bias. If that is the case I will dump their online version of the news like I have the print version.

papanther

March 12, 2010 - 8:23 pm EST

I doubt you'll stop reading the online paper ... idle threats by an apparent conspiracist theorist instigated by a co-conspirator. The N&R isn't deleting comments as indicated below - some people are just a little too quick to fly off the handle and make unfounded accusations. But I am sure the N&R response just feeds your paranoia further. Read the Rhino if you want one-sided conservative entertainment. I prefer to read the news.

Michael Grossman

March 12, 2010 - 10:34 am EST

This story was posted at 3 a.m. today (Friday, March 12). There were other trash-related stories published earlier this week, written by another reporter, all of which received comments. Those stories remain on the site and the comments on them were not deleted. But we have no way to continue comments from one story onto another story.
-N&R

H2O_Polo

March 12, 2010 - 9:17 am EST

** “If it might even end up saving us money, I don’t see a downside,” said Karen Olsen . She said her family produces so much trash she can’t imagine hauling it themselves. **

I bet you wouldn’t see a downside for you if all you care about is your monthly bill. How big is your backyard? Can we open a landfill there? This is a system that will benefit the people that produce the most amount of garbage by having their bill subsidized by people that care about the environment and make decisions every single day to reduce, reuse, and recycle. As per Karen Olsen’s comment, by forcing people into this system and charging everyone the same rate regardless if they produce 10 gallons of garbage per month or 90 gallons per week, the people that live in a way to reduce their impact on the environment will be forced to pick up the tab for the consumer culture. The problem is illegal dumping and burning not people that haul their own trash to the dump.

jeaniegnc

March 12, 2010 - 9:49 am EST

If the N & R is deleting comments, that goes right along with not allowing you to comment on certain, selected columns. Not much freedom of speech.

I pay $16.50 per month to have my garbage picked up and it is the best deal for my money that I spend monthly. Republic Waste has been picking up my garbage for more than 15 years and they started charging me $16.00 and once they increased the monthly fee by $.50. Don't I wish I could say the same about Time Warner? I believe if everybody was covered by a garbage pickup service, a great deal of the dumping problems would be solved.

Paul Daniels

March 12, 2010 - 1:13 pm EST

Like Jeanie, my family has used Republic Waste for 10 years. Republic picks up garbage once a week and recycling every other Monday. In ten years Republic has increased its rates from $15.00 a month to $16.50 - only about one percent a year.

I am wary about government taking over garbage collection for a number of reasons. First, I would be very surprised if the county could do it as cheaply. It might start out as cheap, but look out! My second objection is philosophical - goverment should do only those things that the private sector can't do.

Paul Daniels

johnodrake

March 12, 2010 - 5:11 pm EST

Good Post. Government rarely does things as well as the private sector. If illegal dumping is really the issue, make the penalties so draconian that no one in their right mind would dump, then make it a point to catch the miscreants.

ustaxpayer

March 13, 2010 - 1:37 pm EST

This is just a way for Greensboro to get its foot in the door to come in and take over small towns inside Guilford county...beware!! GREENSBORO needs to stay inside the city limits!!!

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