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Technology could enable users to send, receive information up to 100 times faster

Sunday, March 7, 2010
(Updated 9:01 pm)

— Click a button and your thought goes zipping from your laptop into the world.

Before you can blink, it hops on a ray of light and gets beamed along strands of glass, and boom: your wry comment lands on Facebook.

It may sound space age — at least as it concerns the ray of light –– but it isn’t. It’s a fiber-optic Internet connection.

Google plans to extend these fiber-optic lines to up to 500,000 people — right to their front doors. Greensboro techies and leaders are hoping to convince Google executives that the Gate City, with its dearth of Internet provider competition for home users, is an ideal test site.

“Google is basically raising the bar,” said Javier Gomez, CEO of Greensboro-based Dynamic Quest, a local Internet service company.

Surfing the Web via high-speed — or broadband — Internet is so last millennium.

Your DSL or cable Internet connection might be faster than that old-school dial-up users first deployed to get online. But it’s a similar technology.

Information, be it pictures or words or files, travels via electricity along copper wires buried underground or strung from poles.

They’re the same kind of wires that bring you telephone calls or cable programs to your television and have been around, in some cases, for decades.

Fiber-optic cables can be run along roadways and utility poles just like other cables. But they use light and super-thin glass as a means of travel, which allows data to move at much quicker rates. Google estimates it could provide service up to 100 times faster than what most Americans have.

Although most Internet service providers use fiber in some portion of their networks, data can get gummed up when it travels that last mile — along a copper wire — to your home computer.

DSL and cable do the job for most home users. While most U.S. cities are plugging along that superhighway at respectable rates, countries in Europe and Asia have upped their speeds beyond NASCAR levels.

But you can’t hit 200 mph if you don’t have a super-slick track — and Greensboro residents don’t have that yet.

“The rest of the world is getting this, why aren’t we doing this?” said Jay Ovittore, a local resident who has advocated for better telecommunication access in Greensboro.

It’s got a bit to do with the sheer size of the country, Internet technology experts say. It takes a lot of cable to connect everyone.

Tech observers say the lack of competition in the U.S. telecommunications market has stymied innovation and progress.

“If there were strong competition it would have never happened,” said Jonathan Davis, a senior network manager for Honda Power Equipment.

“I think that is really what Google is trying to do here because they see, for the most part, things are not moving forward because there is not strong competition.”

Some major U.S. Internet providers that serve local customers have built fiber networks in other communities. Melissa Buscher, a Time Warner spokeswoman, said the company doesn’t plan to offer fiber to homes in the area. But she said the company has worked to increase speeds in other ways.

“We are delivering what customers demand at this point. One gigabit (the speed Google may offer) is pretty fast and it comes with a price,” Buscher said.

Time Warner’s speed of 10 megabits per second — 1 percent as fast — is what home users are demanding, Buscher said.

Some observers say it’s not a lack of demand that has left the country behind.

The town of Wilson built its own $28 million, 300-mile fiber-optic network. The city estimates it will make a profit in three years.

“We want to make sure Wilson businesses have the very best tools to do businesses,” said Brian Bowman, a city spokesman. “The world is flat. We are living in a global world. They need to be able to communicate.”

So what happens if Google Fiber comes to Greensboro, connecting every man, woman and child to the fastest Internet speeds in the world?

There are serious applications, techies say. For instance, companies such as Google could use the faster access to run programs such as its word processing program, Google Docs, online instead of on your computer.

Home users might also notice a change when they put stuff out to the world. Upload speeds are likely to significantly improve with fiber Internet, Davis said.

Did you use that fancy new video camera to take a high definition video of your toddler taking his first steps? Now you can share it with Grammy in Connecticut — in minutes, instead of hours.

“That is where I start to see the strength in this and why is it different,” Davis said.

Contact Amanda Lehmert at 373-7075 or amanda.lehmert@news-record.com

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laserguidedloogie

March 7, 2010 - 6:38 am EST

Oh, NOW I get it. It's kinda like NASCAR vs a Honda on Friendly. Why didn't you say so before? Thanks for that analogy Amanda, it's perfectly clear now.

I jus a poor suthren boy who don't know much about hi falutin teknowlegy type stuff. I need ever thang splained to me in terms of NASCAR.

'specially since I know them feriners gots it an we don't. Dat aint right!

By the way, 1GB/s is cool and and all, but what happens when Google decides to play gatekeeper? You know, like it is already doing?

I suppose if you have political opinions that are safely inside the realm of orthodoxy (i.e. leftists, like the staff of N&R) then it's not a problem. No one will kick you off the net for confirming their bias.

What happens is that people who don't pay obeisance to some jot or tittle of the oppressive leftist dogma that passes for conventional wisdom in our society will be declared "haters" (and you know there's no place for hate!).

After that, Google will cop a sanctimonious air and, in the interest of public service, kick the haters off the net (cuz we don't be evil!).

Ken
http://www.LaserGuidedLoogie.com

ghost from white oak

March 7, 2010 - 10:51 am EST

" Google estimates it could provide service up to 100 times faster than what most Americans have."

So what's the point? This is overkill, will humans suddenly be able to think and type 100 times faster?
I'm not impressed. In the age of instant gratification, this is nano gratification.

newkid

March 7, 2010 - 2:19 pm EST

LOL. It's not about TYPING 100 times faster, Ghost. It's about being able upload/download online content faster, creating online commerce opportunities at the speed that buyers and sellers need, and many more valuable prospective uses...some we can hardly even imagine at this point.

Yes, the aircraft industry could have continued to operate using the Wright Brothers' original systems too, but....

ghost from white oak

March 7, 2010 - 4:44 pm EST

" It's about being able upload/download online content faster, creating online commerce opportunities at the speed that buyers and sellers need,"
Do buyers and sellers really need this speed? But then again, at what cost?

darkmoon

March 7, 2010 - 1:38 pm EST

Uhh. The sharing with Grammy in Connecticut thing is off again. When you share any videos, it's dependent on two connection points:

A to B to C

The Google fiber is only speaking about your connection between A and B. Not B and C. Basic networking principles. Just because A to B up/down speeds are quick, doesn't mean that B to C is since it's dependent on their routing and provider speeds. Thus....unless Grammy has fiber too? You're not sharing any sort of HD at any sort of "minutes" speed.

The only examples that should be being used should relate specific to only the last mile connectivity. Provider to user. User to provider.

jonathan_davis

March 7, 2010 - 5:28 pm EST

Hey Darkmoon,
I agree that you have to factor all links in when discussing sending something to "grammy". However, let's look at the work flow most people use to complete a task like that.

1. upload video to YouTube
-Assuming the user has Time Warner cable, the maximum upload they will receive is 768kbps. Although, when uploading large files, I've rarely seen over 512kbps. Assuming the file size is only 100MB, the user will experience an approximate 20 minute wait time to upload the video (too long). Now if the user was had Google Fiber, that wait time is sub 20 seconds.

2. send link to family, friends, and acquaintances.
-Since they are simply downloading a file, they can now bring their fully advertised 6Mb connection to bare, which should take less than 2 minutes to download, an acceptable time.

Outside of that, let's not forget this is (1) an experiment, and (2) a challenge to other providers. I can remember a time when I (and most likely you) were scoffed at for paying for Road Runner, because "what can you do with all of that speed anyways". Better yet, "what good is free high speed internet downtown?" This is the same case of "if you build it, they will come."

darkmoon

March 8, 2010 - 3:22 am EST

If you upload your videos to Youtube, then you wouldn't be sending HD. There still isn't a good reason for upload speeds.

This isn't a matter of whether or not it's good for Google to come and building it that applications will come. The point of the matter is that if you promote any sort of technology, you need to know what examples to use, when to use them, and what your opposition will say. While I support the Google fiber to to the Triad, I have yet to see people make good examples of basic networking.

And thus, that's my problem of it. It's one thing to pull the blinders over non-techies, but if you take this type of stuff to a tech on the other side of the table, you'd be laughed out of the room.

Also, it's not really an experiment on a global scale. Perhaps in the US, but Asia and Europe has been running this type of scheme for a long time already. Where's the data that should be being pulled from similar studies?

By the way, your #2 point actually works against having to bring 1Gbps speeds here. If download speeds of 6Mb are enough because of a link, then there's no reason for 1Gbps up or down.

I have no clue where you're going with the "high speed internet downtown" thing since 1) I rarely go there, and 2) if it was there, so what.... see #1. Last of all, never been scoffed at for paying for RR. Pay for what you get, and there isn't anything any better around here unless you pull your own lines.

blue

March 8, 2010 - 7:31 am EST

darkmoon, you need to look at You Tube again. They do indeed support HD uploads now. With my slow TW upload speeds now, it can take up to two hours or more for me to upload an HD video, something that I do quite often as part of my job. But lets look at the benefits of higher speeds using the analogy of the Interstate highway compared to a 2 lane road. Can you imagine the business and industry that we would NOT have in Greensboro without our interstate highway system? Just having I-40, I-85 and I-73 coming through our area has meant we have attracted a lot of jobs to our area that we would not have otherwise. The same could be said for attracting high speed internet connections. You can get anywhere in America by driving only on 2 lane roads, but if you need to get somewhere, I guarantee that you will be using the high speed routes the interstates provide instead of the 2 lane roads.

darkmoon

March 8, 2010 - 10:49 am EST

My bad. I don't really watch Youtube videos. But you're right. They support HD 1080p.

Actually,having come from a bigger city and traveled a lot, I have no clue why there's even traffic jams in Greensboro. With less population, for some odd reason, the Triad tends to have worse traffic than places I've been with 3x the populace. Sounds pretty inefficient if you ask me.

I agree that high speed is great. It's part of the reason why most of your first adopters of any broadband, come from universities since you're used to the speed in which the Internet is propagated. The road example actually is a very good one.... and one that I've used before. Especially since from a cost perspective, if Google has dark fiber already in the area, then FTTx connections are then cheaper. Cheaper to build just junction roads, versus building the highway and junction roads.

As far as business and industry.... I think that with I-40, I-85, and 73....(ha) coming here, I believe this place should be fairly larger than it is. Call it politics or whatever that stifles growth, but for a place that only has about quarter mil within city, I can say that it's nice but has had potential for bigger and better things at some point. Really, what made this area was actually the rail system, than the freeways. I think there's a lot of potential on the Triad area being the middle of it all.

Oh yeah. And, when was the last time anyone actually bothered to use I-40 to I-95 to go to Myrtle Beach, instead of a "2 lane road" (if I'm not mistaken, it's still called the "future 73-74 corridor). ;)

InventorNC

March 7, 2010 - 9:40 pm EST

I am an early adopter so the Google project is interesting! Most especially so because I use VoIP for all my phones. (Vonage and Ooma.)
Provided that it is reasonably priced and *reliable* we really would benefit from the Google product. TW is certainly not super fast but it is reliable and reliability is a major factor. The question that remains glossed over so far: what is the cost to the user for all that speed?

darkmoon

March 8, 2010 - 3:25 am EST

FTTH is more reliable from a data scenario than coax. If Verizon FiOS or Wilson's Greenlight project is any indication on price, then the costs would be very similar to what you pay for currently for faster speeds. In my research on FTTx years ago, even if you paid the exact same price that you had currently, you would at least attain double if not triple the speeds that you have with current cable providers.

jonathan_davis

March 8, 2010 - 1:10 pm EST

Darkmoon,
I've seen you complain a few times about people not offering good solutions for the question of what to do with 1Gbps. What are your ideas?

Outside of what's been listed, I can think of quite a few more:
True multipoint HD video conferencing
My content following me: i.e., being able to watch HD content off of my DVR on my laptop or Iphone
Serving all of my personal files on my home server to any computer I use via VPN, at a usable speed
Hosting audio or video podcast from a server located at my home

Your turn.

darkmoon

March 8, 2010 - 10:29 pm EST

I've already talked about it before already. Forget new ideas. I want Google to take over my regular television through the broadband. I want them to use their algorithms like they would anyways for Adwords and apply it to commercials so that I'm not sitting around watching Levitra commercials when I'm not at that age where I even care yet. Turn my current experience with the same bandwidth to a more useful one.

Video wise, I really couldn't care less about video following me since that would require the back hauls for my mobile carrier to support that, and I know better on what they can and can't support.

I would like Cisco's Telepresence to actually work for home, but that's a technology that isn't even available for home use yet.

Truthfully? I just want competition instead of just having to choose between crappy DSL from AT&T that might or might not work because they won't bring Uverse, or Time Warner whom I hate the television service ever since they upgraded to that new Navigator that slowed down surfing the television.

I do have some ideas for how to use that bandwidth, but I'm not about to share business models that I could potentially chase. I will say however, that my issues have remained and will continue to remain with holding people to what FTTx is and what the RFI quotes. If they say FTTH, then that's to the home only which means businesses are not part of it. The biggest issues that I've seen still remain that people are not sticking within the boundaries that are given. Nothing wrong with dreaming big, but also understand where and what the technology is doing and what you're bound by. It's like someone wanting to run a line larger than OC-768, but not understanding that the bottleneck isn't the fiber, but the switching.

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