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Principal, staff could be cut in Oak Hill reform

Wednesday, March 3, 2010
(Updated 10:47 am)

HIGH POINT — Poor academic performance might cost one local school dozens of jobs.

School district officials say they want to apply for a federal grant to help turn around Oak Hill Elementary. But to win the grant, the district might have to replace the principal and half of the teachers.

The Obama administration announced late last year that it would provide states with millions of dollars to help reform their lowest-performing schools. But to receive the grant, school districts must agree to one of four drastic overhauls:

* Close the school and send the students to better-performing schools.

* Hand the school over to a charter school organization.

* Reform the school, including replacing the principal and extending the school day and teacher planning time.

* Replace the principal and half the teachers.

Districts could receive between $50,000 and $2 million for school reform.

Oak Hill is one of the lowest-performing schools in the state and one of 10 Guilford County Schools designated by the state as low performing.

Oak Hill has plenty of challenges. Nearly half of the student body speaks English as a second language, and more than 92 percent live in poverty. Only about 24 percent of students scored proficient in reading on state exams last year, and 39 percent were proficient in math. Those scores were a slight improvement over the previous year.

Oak Hill Principal Sara Roberts said she is willing to step aside if she’s asked, but she questions the grant criteria’s equitableness. She noted this year’s test data won’t be available before the grant applications are due.

“I want what’s best for the school and the kids, and if the federal government thinks that’s what’s best, then I’m willing to move on to another school or another position, but it is kind of shocking,” she said.

Roberts and regional superintendent Angelo Kidd met with teachers Tuesday afternoon. She said the teachers are worried about their jobs, and she has tried to reassure them.

Beth Folger, the district’s chief academic officer, said Superintendent Maurice “Mo” Green and his staff have not decided which reform model they will recommend to the Guilford County Board of Education, but she said something must be done at the school.

“If we keep doing what we’re doing right now, we already know the results we’re going to get,” she said. “Something has to change. This school has been low performing for too long.”

Folger said the district may get input from parents and teachers on how to move forward with Oak Hill.

Tijuana Hayes, president of the Guilford County Association of Educators, said the association opposes any model that would mean firing teachers.

“There are many factors that go into why a child is not performing, not just how a particular child did on a particular test,” Hayes said. “The community can no longer stand on the sideline and point fingers at the teachers.”

School districts that opt to replace principals and staff could choose to move those employees to other schools, according to officials.

But school board member Garth Hebert said the district must be cautious about replacing or firing teachers at low-performing schools, especially those like Oak Hill with significant challenges. It may make it even harder to find teachers to work in those schools, he said.

“Using the principal and teachers as a scapegoat for a school that nobody can fix is reprehensible,” Hebert said.

Hebert supports firing employees who aren’t getting the job done but said he doesn’t think that’s fair in the case of Oak Hill.

Guilford County Schools could apply for the same grant for special needs schools McIver Education Center and Gateway Education Center. However, Folger said there has been no discussion yet on recommending that to the school board.

School districts must submit applications with their reform model selection by April 30. The state will announce grant recipients by the end of June.

Contact J. Brian Ewing at 373-7351 or brian.ewing@news-record.com

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hpulliamjr@triad.rr.com

March 3, 2010 - 9:18 am EST

Sarah Roberts should seek other employment,outside public education,as should 50% + of the other unfit teachers.I would wager,they they are not equipped for employment in the private sector.

mlha

March 3, 2010 - 10:35 am EST

You have shown by your ignorant comment your lack of education and experience in what is happening in the education system today. I have a tip for you: next time you have a thought, let it go. I would love to see you perform the miracle asked of our teachers to educate children, who most of which do not speak English and come from uneducated homes, in the very shot time they are given. The issue is not the teachers. The teachers are directed how to teach in every aspect of the classroom by the government. Therefore, you can feel free to blame your government. You know nothing about the teachers and the difficulties they face, especially in these types of schools. This is what happens when you let government run schools and officials who care only about re-election make decisions on our children's education. Schools need to be privatized people, wake up. Somebody please show me where the constitution gives the government the right to have public schools.

hpulliamjr@triad.rr.com

March 3, 2010 - 10:42 am EST

Don't try to talk down to me!!
We don't hire miracle workers,we hire and need qualified teaches in a voucher school system.

JackK

March 3, 2010 - 11:21 am EST

In your first posting you talked about getting rid of "unfit" teachers and in your second of hiring "qualified" teachers. Would you please define what you mean by both a bit more fully? For I suspect by the current laws and education all or most of the teachers at Oak Hill are currently "qualified" teachers; what exactly makes them unfit? And how can that be corrected?

dcolin

March 3, 2010 - 1:14 pm EST

You are thinking.
That is not allowed.

Also very difficult.

hpulliamjr@triad.rr.com

March 3, 2010 - 1:44 pm EST

If the teachers are qualified,then the students are clones of their teachers.
No teacher is un-qualified according to the teacher's union.
Don't beat around the bush.You can't declare and swear that the same are qualified,unless you are affialated with the teacher's union.

JackK

March 3, 2010 - 2:26 pm EST

You haven't answered my questions, but have accused me of being "affiliated with the teacher's union." Since teachers, as NC state workers, are forbidden by law to unionize, of which teacher's union do you speak? And what do you mean by your first sentence, which doesn't make much sense to me? All I wanted to know was how you would decide if a teacher were qualified or unfit; can you define either of those two for me, please. I agree that unfit teachers, or doctors, or bus drivers, or whomever, should be fired. But which ones are unfit and how do you know?

hpulliamjr@triad.rr.com

March 3, 2010 - 4:07 pm EST

One miore time,Jack,listen carefully......
Teachers unions exist in NC, contrary to the NC Constitution,simply by calling themselves members of an "association".Case closed.

JackK

March 3, 2010 - 7:03 pm EST

Actually, I think your mind is closed, for an association of professionals . . . the AMA or the American Bar Association, say . . . do not, as unions often do, force employees to join, nor do they go on strike, nor do they engage in collective bargaining. To call any group that lobbies the legislature a union is just wrong. There is no teacher's union in NC. After more than 30 years as a teacher in this state, I can tell you that for a fact. And no, before you say it, I'm not a member of any association of teachers or any union. One last thing, you never answered my more important questions; but I guess you could just walk into any school and immediately identify unfit teachers. Your smug self-assuredness beats your ignorance.

kristine

March 3, 2010 - 7:14 pm EST

Teachers unions do not exist in North Carolina. Having lived in a union state previously I can assure you the "association" in North Carolina doesn't have half the power a union would have. The North Carolina Association of Educators couldn't keep an "unfit" teacher from losing their job if they tried. Sometimes they can't even help teachers that are being unfairly harassed for personal reasons. And all educators aren't even associated with NCAE and therefore have no protection whatsoever against unfair treatment.

JackK

March 4, 2010 - 8:52 am EST

Thanks, Kristine, but I doubt we've convinced this writer.

General Greensboro

March 3, 2010 - 10:56 am EST

For your constitutional amendment on public schools, see Article IX, Section 2 of the N.C. Constitution: "The General Assembly shall provide by taxation and otherwise for a general and uniform system of free public schools, which shall be maintained at least nine months in every year, and wherein equal opportunities shall be provided for all students."

As for the public/private debate, mlba, let me see if I have this straight: Public schools generally (and Oak Hill in particular, it seems) have difficulty educating students who don't speak English and come from homes where the parents aren't highly educated. So the solution is to replace the public schools with private schools, which don't have to take the same students that Oak Hill is struggling to educate? Is that your argument?

dcolin

March 3, 2010 - 1:21 pm EST

"constitution gives the government the right to have public schools."

Please explain

Wonderer

March 3, 2010 - 9:21 am EST

I wonder why it is that ESL children are in poverty in this and many other schools. Legal immigration mandates a sponsor to the immigrants and means to care for the immigrant group. Am I just living in a dream world? Are there this many political refugees living in High Point?

PanaceaFan

March 3, 2010 - 9:35 am EST

Garth is again the voice of reason on the School Board. Driving off good teachers and scaring off potential ones doesn't seem productive. Clean house, then work on solving some of the root causes to the problem.

Garth

March 3, 2010 - 12:43 pm EST

Referring to the above, there are more foreign languages spoken by the children in Oak Hill than anywhere else in the county and possibly anywhere else in the State. While the City of High Point would like this part of town to disappear, these are truly refugees in every sense of the word. Hindi, Afghani, Pakistani, South American, Africans etc. Many churches sponsor these people and the only “affordable” housing in this area. Having spent time in these homes all I can say is that the one bedroom silver travel trailer my family lived in when we immigrated to the U.S. was a huge step up. Many have to leave during the summer to maintain status for permanent Visa applications. These kids learn English very quickly, but imagine 20 different language needs, a transient population, poverty all lumped in one area and you have Principal Robert’s challenge.
These parents work 2 and 3 jobs to provide a living for their families and are representative of those hard working poor as notioned in the Sonnet:

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

The New Colossus, Emma Lazarus

This Principal and her teachers deserve our support and sustenance, we, who have been given so much…
This population cannot go on welfare or unemployment, they sink or swim and offer so much to our great nation, their children’s children may be the saving strength of our nation as they will appreciate what this country has always stood for and fight to uphold that which their parents and grandparents cherish.

I may be harsh and critical of those who lay back and collect a pay check for being here, but some like those at Oak Hill truly are in the trenches and fighting for these kids and families. Israel always had a scapegoat as did Terry Grier, often we forget that the requirement for “Scapegoat” was the one without blemish.

Could it be that under the light of day and truth that this school is truly performing a great service to our country, but, because we fail to see these kids pass our tests after 9 months of English, we call it failure. Try to learn Hindi or Urdu and pass a language arts test after 9 month, or even 3 years.

आपका स्वागत है!
इस अंग्रेज़ी हिन्दी अंग्रेज़ी शब्दकोश में आप आसानी से हिन्दी और अंग्रेज़ी शब्दों के अर्थ ढूंढ सकते हैं। नवम्बर 2003 में आरम्भित इस शब्दकोश को आज लाखों लोग उपयोग करते हैं। इसे बेहतर बनाने में आपका योगदान आमंत्रित है!

No, they do not deserve a free ride as teachers or Principal, but let them be judged by those qualified with the knowledge of the situations that exist. I support educational standards, but I am also aware that not all things are as they appear.

dcolin

March 3, 2010 - 1:18 pm EST

I'n worried,

I actually agree with you.

When did we start referring to fix it approaches as "Models"

Pick one.

special

March 3, 2010 - 1:41 pm EST

Thank you Garth.

JackK

March 3, 2010 - 2:06 pm EST

May I assume that the faculty and administration at Oak Hill has followed every program and initiative brought to them by the central office staff and improvement still hasn't happened as one would like? If troops follow orders based on the training they've received, working to the best of their ability, and the objectives are not met, then the commanding officers need to be fired before the troops. Teachers are often only as good as the leadership they receive both inside and beyond the school itself. To fire a principal and half a staff for possibly $50,000 from the feds seems both unfair and a bit silly . . . even $2 million, given the total budget of the district seems a paltry amount for this sort of behavior.

kristine

March 3, 2010 - 8:11 pm EST

Exactly!

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