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Inside Scoop: Hotel e-mails reveal behind-the-scenes talks

Monday, February 8, 2010
(Updated 1:16 pm)

Scoop collected a big ol’ box of documents from City Hall last week — the lengthy response to a hotelier's public record request on the recovery zone facility bond issue.

The stack of paperwork was not that eventful; it mostly was copies of the three financial feasibility reports on the Ole Asheboro Hotel project and the two other bond projects.

But there is some interesting e-mail traffic in there.

For instance, hotel project attorney Eric Pristell makes an extensive argument to City Attorney Terry Wood about why the hotel’s project information should not be considered a public record.

He argues that the information should be considered “trade secrets” and therefore protected under the law. Wood agreed with him, and multiple pages of the report were blacked out.

Pristell tells Wood he wouldn’t disclose the unredacted version of the proposal if he were the city attorney.

“The fundamental reason is that if the public decides to sue and you lose, your damages will be significantly lower than if you released the document and my client sued. Our damages, if proven, would be substantial. Food for thought,” Pristell wrote to Wood.

Meanwhile, the stacks of e-mails also revealed what money or power gets you in city government: easy access to top officials.

Based on the e-mails, it’s clear both Melvin “Skip” Alston and Bridget Chisholm — proponents of the Ole Asheboro Hotel — had access to City Manager Rashad Young to discuss the project.

Young said he spoke with Chisholm over the phone during the holidays and met with hotel proponents and city staff at a meeting to discuss the public parking garage portion of the proposal.

And on the opponent side, hotel owner Dennis Quaintance had access to Assistant City Manager Andy Scott. They exchanged multiple e-mails on the topic and Quaintance even requested a (same-day) meeting to get further details about the project and the way the bonds work.

Wonder if this is the kind of thing City Council members mean when they say the city should be more business-friendly?

Museum wrap-up

And now, some loose ends from the International Civil Rights Center & Museum opening.

Council members applauded Mayor Bill Knight for graciously asking former Mayor Yvonne Johnson to cut the ribbon for the museum.

“It was just appropriate,” Knight said, considering Johnson had been a student in Greensboro when the sit-ins started 50 years ago. “Anybody would have done the same.”

Being a city official at such events has its perks, it seems. Councilman Jim Kee called on a police officer to give him a ride from downtown back to N.C. A&T after he got stranded after the student march Monday.

He thanked the officer at Tuesday night’s council meeting for helping a man in need.

Meanwhile, some people — similarly stranded over the weekend by the winter weather — were miffed that the city pulled out all stops to clear out downtown for the ceremony.

It took days and thousands of hours for all the city streets to be cleared out.

But in a few short hours Saturday, 55 employees cleared downtown of every speck of snow. Eighteen tons of salt and $18,750 later, downtown was ready for its spotlight.

Two say 'no’ to Tasers

Two Guilford County commissioners said they wouldn’t vote for the sheriff’s office to have more Taser stun guns because of concerns about them being used in schools.

At their Thursday meeting, the commissioners approved 10 more stun guns for Sheriff BJ Barnes’ deputies, but Commissioners Bruce Davis and Carolyn Coleman said they couldn’t support the move.

“We need a study on the use of these Tasers, and we should eliminate them from the school system,” Coleman said.

Davis said the controversy over the use of Tasers by school resource officers in the county’s schools was an ongoing issue that would have to be resolved before he would vote in favor of purchasing more of the weapons.

The commissioners approved the purchase 9-2, authorizing Barnes to spend $24,494 for 10 Taser kits.

The Tasers have been used in Guilford County schools four times in the past two years. The devices deliver a 50,000-volt electric shock for 5 seconds.


Staff writers Amanda Lehmert and Joe Killian contributed to this report.

Accompanying Photos

John Newsom (News & Record)

Photo Caption: This parking deck is part of the property being considered for a new luxury hotel in downtown Greensboro.

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obiwon

February 8, 2010 - 7:33 am EST

Hang tough BJ. If they vote to stop use tasers, pull out the officers and deputies. Let security guards maintain order in the schools. No doubt a lot of teachers will leave guilford county schools for their own safety and more kids will be injured by security guards. Where did we get this nuts running our government?

Panacea

February 8, 2010 - 7:58 am EST

Oy vei. Pritchell threatens the City Attorney . . . and Wood folds like a card table. A threat of a lawsuit should not be the basis for deciding what information is public, and what is not. Black letter law should. What "trade secrets" could a hotel possibly have? We are not talking high technology here: this hotel project is not the latest Apple project, or new Big Pharma drug. Wood, you should be ashamed.

Mayor Knight: way to go. You showed class. Not everyone would have done what you did.

Mr. Kee: the Greensboro Police Department is not a taxi service.

Councilmen Davis and Coleman: Shame on you both. Your vote had nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with politics. You both knew the measure would pass without your vote, and you got a cheap ticket in the spotlight without having to take a risk.

oh good grief

February 8, 2010 - 9:05 am EST

"Mr. Kee: the Greensboro Police Department is not a taxi service."

But . . . but . . . but he learned from "one" of the best on how to "take advantage."

I believe it was Yvonne Johnson while a member of the City Council who, early on during a big city-wide storm when her home's electrical power was interrupted (as many of ours was) got City employees to go into the bowels of the City storage facility to supply her and her household with a CITY PROPERTY generator?

citywatcher

February 8, 2010 - 9:15 am EST

This is one of those emails that Dennis Quaintance sent to Andy Scott on the hotel. It appears that Skip Alson was right and Weaver/Quaintance wasnt being truthful about their own downtown hotel plans. Not only that Dennis wanted to use recovery bonds himself for a downtown hotel. Can you see the hypocracy?:

"My jaw hit the floor a couple of different times when I learned that the financial mechanisms in play were different than you explained to us. I’m not really angry about this. My guess is that it was just an honest misunderstanding. It was just what you thought was so. Yet I am disappointed in that if we’d known earlier what we know now, we probably would have gotten busy and put together our own project (smaller initial phase), three variations of which have been in the work for years. My bet is that it was just an honest misunderstanding. We probably would have had enough time if we’d started earlier. I want to explain my feelings about that and make sure that we are ‘clean.’ If we’d started back in the early winter, we’d likely be ahead of this other project now but since we sat on our hands, they have lapped us and will possibly suck a lot of the various allocations away prior to our being able to belly up. Plus, even our long-term investment idea of making sense out of a smaller project that surely wouldn’t make money for years but would be justified with the eventual expansion potential and lower basis, wouldn’t work if new inventory is added to the market. (In fairness, if this other project had stayed on Lee Street, we probably would have stayed on the sidelines because entering then might have made us look like a party pooper from the Old Asheboro Neighborhood Association’s perspective. We are sincerely respectful of their point of view.)"

Brandon Burgess

February 8, 2010 - 9:43 am EST

I do see the hypocrisy. All those allegations about racial discrimination were non-sense. Thank you for providing readers with this email that proves this is about business and not about "silver rights".

Brentwood

February 8, 2010 - 11:28 am EST

I found the "Silver Rights" comment by Skip at the press conference to be quite profound. However his comment was not directed to the Hotel issue specifically. When he has spoken about the hotel, he has always said it was about business, not race.

my2centsworth

February 8, 2010 - 11:00 am EST

IT Is all about the money! Some things never change! LOL!

citywatcher

February 8, 2010 - 11:16 am EST

well its true, the only color involved is green. Its all about money and ego on both sides. I am in favor of the hotel but I'd like to see the final plan and how Chrisholm and Kaplan will address that gloomy feasibilty report. I'm giving them a chance since there were some things not included in the feasibilty report.

Brentwood

February 8, 2010 - 11:37 am EST

I don't care who makes what off this deal. The feasibility and positive/negative effect on downtown Greensboro is what matters. I have seen more uproar regarding who is making what then really deserves attention. Dick Cheney and his cronies over at Halliburton profited billions from the War on Terror. No uproar, no dismay. We concentrate so much on the mother in line paying with food stamps and on welfare, "leeching" off the government than the Washington lobbyist, pharmaceutical companies, Wall Street etc. who make billions and profit in ways that we couldn't even began to dream of. I'm all for free enterprise. But when we start bailing banks out, only for the banks themselves to make profits and hand out bonuses at the expense of our small business and consumers, when the government is profiting off a war at the expense of our integrity and troops overseas...shameful. I say both Republicans and Democrats are plum delusional. And why is Palin even considering a 2012 run. Really? Seriously? I sure hope Republicans aren't taking her seriously. on second thought, I wouldn't mind, because that would be a sure win for Obama.

mohair.sam

February 8, 2010 - 12:49 pm EST

Both sides of this have reason to hang their heads in shame. As Citywatcher says, this was all about money from the get-go, and money comes with power and access. It always does. Keeping information from the public b/c of threatened litigation is completely against the spirit, if not the letter, of our state's sunshine laws. Given the debacle over the city's low-cost housing program (complete lack of sunshine, utter corruption of the board, money that vanished completely, etc), you'd think the city would have learned its lesson. Apparently not.

Not sure what Dick Cheney, welfare mothers, Wall Street, et al. have to do with downtown redevelopment and the hotel in question? Did I miss something? On the points of Haliburton, all that, MANY of us, conservative and liberal, have been raising a stink about all that for years. All government waste is bad, and the Pentagon wastes more than any other branch of the government. Democrats and Republicans serve the same elite international masters; why do you think Obama's policies are nearly identical to Bush's? Last I checked, we're still in Iraq, ramping up in Afghanistan, and have more SOG troops in Pakistan now than ever before. The only good thing in all this is that the nation will be bankrupted sooner, rather than later, so the cost of empire will bring us down even faster. Only then will Americans understand that everything has a cost associated with it, and we have to afford what we want, be it from private sources or the government. Partisan bickering has never been sillier.

Brentwood

February 8, 2010 - 1:46 pm EST

I have a tendency to introduce topics not related to one another. I'm surprise I didn't incorporate Denny's some where in there because I was actually hungry and thinking of pancakes at the time of that post. Moreover, I think they have more in common at second glance than one may think. It's seems as though this administration has the goal of, Spend now, think later. They lack the follow through and thoroughness these tough times demand. The recovery bonds (2009 Stimulus Act) reflect that lack of detail and authority. The confusion from City Staff, Council members and County Commission was because the 2009 Stimulus Act and Zone recovery Bonds in particular lacked the structured guidelines for implementation, so the City was merely filling in the blanks. In addition, bailing out the banks, yet not requiring specific restrictions to go along with that money. They (banks) kept that money to absorb their toxic debt, instead of increasing their lending to small business. The water down healthcare bill was nothing more than a handful of senators catering to pharmaceutical companies and their own self interest and the expense of 30 million citizens sans healthcare. Wall street is well on its way to recovering yet Americans on Main Street struggle. How is that possible? The Fed chairmain, Bernacke, gets rewarded with another term. How/Why is that possible?

oh good grief

February 8, 2010 - 2:25 pm EST

". . . the 2009 Stimulus Act and Zone recovery Bonds in particular lacked the structured guidelines for implementation, . . . ."

On purpose, no doubt.

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