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Doctors on demand: Want your doctor’s cell phone number? 24/7 access? Same-day appointments?

Sunday, February 7, 2010
(Updated 3:00 am)

GREENSBORO — Imagine a world where you can make a same-day appointment, your doctor spends an hour on your annual physical, and he personally returns calls.

That world is here.

But it’ll cost you.

Sometimes called “concierge” medicine, patients pay an annual fee that can range from $600 to as high as $15,000. In exchange, patients receive more personalized care, such as longer appointments and a focus on prevention.

But there are drawbacks: Such practices require doctors to reduce their patient load, which can leave hundreds of patients looking for new primary care physicians. It also can separate patients from the doctors they have trusted for years and present a financial challenge to others.

Despite the drawbacks, the trend, also described as “direct care” or “preventive personalized care,” continues to grow, both locally and nationally.

In January, Greensboro Drs. James Kindl, Peter Blomgren and David Keller switched to this type of care by joining MDVIP, a Florida-based national network of physicians practicing preventive personalized care. They are the first Triad doctors to join MDVIP and are among 11 in the state.

“We think that every patient deserves this kind of care,” Blomgren said. “We think it brings out the best in our abilities to take care of them.”

The $1,500 annual fee allows MDVIP doctors to see fewer patients. Doctors get part of the money, MDVIP gets a share and the rest covers costs for the added features, such as the in-depth physical.

Patient Elsie Jacobs, 67, signed on in part to stay with Keller, her doctor of 28 years. But the concept appealed to her — especially prevention and more time to talk about health concerns with her doctor. She’s paying the annual fee in quarterly installments.

“I like all of the things that they’re going to cover when they do the check, you know, the physical,” she said. “That, to me, is more than you would get in a normal physical. That was worth the $1,500 right there.”

Personal medicine

Traditional primary care physicians might see as many as 40 patients per day and often spend 15 minutes or less with each, health care experts say. That leaves little time to discuss prevention and little room for last-minute appointments.

By contrast, most concierge doctors give out their home and cell phone numbers to offer patients 24/7 access; provide same or next day appointments; focus more on prevention; and require in-depth yearly physicals.

MDVIP’s exam includes personal and family history, identification of risk factors, laboratory testing, EKG and screenings related to mental status, exercise, nutrition and sleep; vision, hearing and pulmonary function testing; and a review of all medication.

The exam takes about 90 minutes, Keller said. Blocking out 30 minutes for an exam was difficult under the old system, where he and Blomgren saw 20 or more patients a day.

Now they each see eight to 12 people per day and can easily fit in more.

Take the recent patient of Keller’s who called complaining of a cough and fever. Keller saw her that day and prescribed medication for pneumonia. Under traditional primary care, she likely would have had to wait a couple of days for an appointment. By then, the pneumonia could have worsened and required hospitalization, Keller said.

More time with patients means getting to know them — and their medical issues — better, Blomgren said. It means heading off issues before they become problems and require costly hospital stays.

“This is the kind of care that physicians were trained to give in medical school,” Keller said. “But with the constraints of the traditional practice model, we can’t do it.”

Broken system

Fed up with insurance ruling his practice, Dr. Thomas LaGrelius switched years ago to what he calls a “direct care” model.

A family and geriatric care physician in Torrance, Calif., he said primary care should never have been folded into an insurance system where quantity rather than quality rules reimbursement for doctors.

Doctors had to increase their patient load to make up the revenue lost as insurers and Medicare reduced what was reimbursed to physicians, said LaGrelius, board chairman of the Society for Innovative Medical Practice Design, a Virginia-based association of concierge physicians.

Started in Seattle in the 1990s, direct or concierge care began growing more rapidly in recent years.

A 2005 U.S. Government Accountability Office report found 146 physicians practicing concierge care.

Today, MDVIP alone works with nearly 360 physicians across the country.

The Society for Innovative Medical Practice Design counts about 300 members. Many more doctors do not belong to a group, LaGrelius said. Several thousand across the country likely offer such personalized care, he said. As dissatisfaction with the current system grows, more will convert, LaGrelius said.

Every time one doctor converts to a reduced patient load, other doctors must pick up the remaining patients. A typical primary care physician sees 2,000 to 3,000 patients a year — sometimes more.

Each of the Greensboro doctors had to reduce his patient load to no more than 600 to join MDVIP. With about 4,400 patients between Blomgren and Keller, that left 3,200 people from their practices without a primary care physician. They worked to ensure those patients had access to another doctor.

The influx of patients from such conversions raises concerns for critics who say concierge care reduces the number of primary care physicians at a time when there aren’t enough doctors going into the field. They worry the costs could exclude the poor, creating a separate class of medical care.

In Greensboro’s case, three doctors reducing their patient load should not be a problem, said Bob Goldstein, executive vice president of LeBauer HealthCare and the physician network for Moses Cone Health System.

Goldstein said that represents a small percentage of primary care physicians here, and the patients should be absorbed into other practices.

But he said he feels sorry for the patients who may have been seeing their physicians for years but must leave the practice because they can’t afford the $1,500 fee or don’t want to pay it.

“I think that’s the unfortunate part,” he said.

Dr. Bernard Kaminetsky, medical director for MDVIP, argues that the switch doesn’t deprive a community of primary care doctors. Some doctors would retire or quit if they didn’t join MDVIP, he said.

Medical students who increasingly have shied away from primary care are once again considering the field because of the preventive personalized care model, he said.

He doesn’t like the term concierge care, which he said conjures images of pricey institutions, such as the Ritz-Carlton.

The annual fee for MDVIP ranges from $1,500 to $1,800 a year, or $125 to $150 a month. MDVIP doctors offer payment plans and many patients use health care reimbursement accounts to use pretax dollars to cover the cost, he said. Health insurance and Medicare also are accepted for eligible costs.

“$125 is a middle class expense,” Kaminetsky said. “It’s a Starbucks a day.”

Patients need to decide what they value more, he said.

Bouts with two forms of cancer left High Point resident Don Darnall, 58, with no doubts about what he values. He researched MDVIP and liked the in-depth care, including the mini-CD that patients get of their medical records.

With his history of cancer and frequent travel, doctors need to get up to speed quickly if something happens to him, Darnall said.

“(That) is a high priority for me,” he said.

He also wanted to stay with Blomgren, who has been his doctor for about 15 years and diagnosed both cancers early enough to get them treated.

Blomgren and Keller, while not ready to retire, had been looking for a change when they found MDVIP.

“We enjoy what we do,” Keller said. “With this model, I think we’ll be able to continue our active practice life for a longer time than we otherwise would have.”

Contact Jennifer Fernandez at 373-7064 or jennifer.fernandez@news-record.com

 

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Soccer Mom

February 7, 2010 - 1:09 pm EST

Are you kidding me? "$125 is a middle class expense,” Kaminetsky said. “It’s a Starbucks a day.” Maybe that doctor can easily afford a pricey Starbucks espresso drink a day, but I personally don't know of many middle-class families in this economy who can budget an extra $125 a month in fees in return for "personalized" care from a family doctor. The really great doctors out there still find a way to spend time with patients without running in and out of a room -- and they take time to answer questions. And while no one expects to be handed a personal cell phone number, some doctors provide them to select patients out of genuine concern for those individuals who may be going through a health crisis. Sadly, it's a ridiculous commentary on our health system when some practices are asking patients to pay hundreds and hundreds of dollars in extra fees for "personalized" care (in addition to ever-increasing health insurance & prescription medication expenses). Find the doctors who will treat you the way you would reasonably expect to be treated -- They are out there.

moongirl

February 7, 2010 - 8:12 pm EST

Are they really out there? When I searched elsewhere I was told I would have to see the P.A. I have decided to scrape up the $ to remain with one of the doctors mentioned in this article because I have received excellent care and attention for twenty years. My doctor "treats people the way they would reasonably expect to be treated" and he is worth whatever I have to pay to stay with him!

ehb8512

February 8, 2010 - 5:54 pm EST

Please refer to my response to Kirk12 below because maybe that will give you more insight as to what this is all about and how great these doctors really are.

kurts12gauge

February 7, 2010 - 4:12 pm EST

Hey Soccer Mom, go to Canada or Britian and see if you can get that type of service for 'free'

KellyE

February 7, 2010 - 9:18 pm EST

I was born and educated in G'boro and Chapel Hill but have lived in Canada for the last 35 years. There are already a few doctors in Canada who are seeing patients like those mentioned in the article. And they cannot receive more for professional acts than the other doctors who see more patients per day. They have decided to accept a lower level of remuneration because they believe they have an ethical responsiblity to practice medicine that way. Canada's universal, public health care system (like that of most Western countries) is FAR cheaper than the U.S. system and the health outcomes are MUCH better.

kurts12gauge

February 7, 2010 - 9:38 pm EST

Thats great and all, but perhaps you should tell that to one of your premiers. You know, the one who came to US because he couldnt receive the same surgery in his province.

Apologize away, sweetie

KellyE

February 8, 2010 - 8:44 am EST

Newfoundland and Labrador is Canada's poorest province, has a very small population and has no large metropolitan area. The premier's decision to have his surgery out-of-province is no different than an American living in a remote area who decides to go to a large out-of-state hospital for major surgery. The criticism here is not that the premier went out-of-province but that he went out-of-country. However, that decision was recommended by his attending cardiologist who probably had direct experience with the U.S. hospital. By the way, I work with a man who had a heart transplant in Canada about six years ago and he is doing fine. I lived in North Carolina for over 30 years before moving to Canada 35 years ago. I paid the high price for U.S. health care and I know what my own father went through financially to get cardiac care before he died. I would not return to live in the U.S. with its present healthcare system. The agency in Québec that administers the provincial health insurance system warns people to buy extra, private insurance if they vacation in the U.S. because the Québec plan will only pay them what similar care would cost in Canada. They give some examples, including the case of a person who is hositalized for 8 days in South Carolina for pneumonia. The S.C. hospital and doctors charge a total of $35,000 but the Québec plan would reimburse only $1,800, with the patient footing the rest of the bill. Hospitals here receive only $100 a day for a room. Years ago, when Bill and Hillary Clinton tried and failed to reform the U.S. system, the federal budget office made a study and concluded that the total already being spent each year on private healthcare would be enough to finance a system like Canada's that would cover EVERY person in the U.S. Do you ever ask yourself why the U.S. is the ONLY major developed country in the world that does not have some form of single-payer, universal, publicly administered healthcare?

Boatman

February 7, 2010 - 4:49 pm EST

Sounds like the good old days when a Dr. really seemed to care about the patient. I don't want to suggest there are no good Dr's left, but too often I get treated like a number and they are in a hurry to move onto the next number.

What's next................................they come to your house?

conciergemd

February 8, 2010 - 8:08 am EST

If you are searching for a "Concierge" medicine doctor, there is a search engine at www.conciergemedicinetoday.com/docfinder.html.

conciergemd

February 8, 2010 - 8:17 am EST

If someone wants to find out how much patients, on average are paying across the country for "concierge" medicine services, you can see that the fees are actually quite affordable. Poll: CONCIERGE PATIENTS Average Monthly Cost For Your "Concierge" Medicine Services? http://askthecollective.org/recession.html#pd_a_2592468

More information has also been done by Concierge Medicine Today (www.conciergemedicinetoday.com).

kirk12

February 8, 2010 - 9:37 am EST

These Doctors are no better than other doctors in Greensboro. If a doctor really cares about his/her patient he makes time to spend with that person. Watch the body language of your MD. Does he look you in the face or talk over you, or talk to the wall. The MD that cares is not looking for the bucks in order to care for you or your family. If you are seen by a physician assistant that can be a good thing. PAs are well trained and allow you an indirect way to your MD. THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IS BROKEN IN THE UNITED STATES AND PAYING FOR THE CELL PHONE NUMBER OR HOME NUMBER OF THAT MD IS NOT THE ANSWER. do you really need to feel that you are that important? Or do you need to see a MD that has less time and more knowledge?
These doctors are general MDs, when you need a Cardiac MD or a Surgeon, guess what, they did not get those big bucks so they are not giving you their cell phone number, and you are just one of their patients so, GET IN LINE!!! More important is trying to take better care of yourself. Stop the bad habits, walk, shed those extra pounds, LAUGH MORE, and LIVE LONGER

ehb8512

February 8, 2010 - 5:52 pm EST

Ok Kirk12, I'll respond to you and then to soccer mom above but clearly you aren't in the know about the best doctors in Greensboro. These doctors are some of the top doctors and before you say they're "no better than other doctors" you need to experience it first hand because clearly you haven't. These doctors dont "talk to the wall" like you're referring to in your bogus response but they spend hours with their patients and end up staying at the office from 8AM to 2AM trying to make sure that each and every patient gets the same attention. The whole point of this is not only for their patients to get more attention but for them to get paid for the time and effort they put in. How would you like to work 18 hours a day to only make $18 and hour (which is what it mathmatically comes out to with their salary)? Not only is that rediculous for them to do, its rediculous to expect them to do it, but guess what? THEY DO. The reason they do this is because they chose jobs in the medical field that will help the most people NOT make the most money. If money was their main concern then they would have gone to medical school to become a surgeon and work half as much to recieve triple the salary.

Also, to respond to your other ignorant comment about seeing a MD that has less time and more knowledge- These are the doctors that have the knowledge and are making the smart decision for their patients and themselves.

And one more thing...before you say the health care system is broken in the US, learn a little bit more about it.

kirk12

February 8, 2010 - 8:42 pm EST

to ehb you are wrong. I know all these MDs. I am a retired medical person!!!! I am not saying they are bad but they do not out rank other MDs in Grensboro. The system is broken!!! This does not help the system, it only removes those MDs from seeing many patients unless you pay big bucks. They still get all the insurance payments and the big bucks. That is putting 600 patients ahead of all else because they are willing to fork over the money. They still will have to see other MDs for other care not covered by a family practice. Those MDs won't be handing out their phone numbers and they will treat all of their patients equally when making appointments.
By the way your language in your response placed You in the level of a poor quality, you have my sympathy!!!!

ehb8512

February 8, 2010 - 9:02 pm EST

To Kirk, I am not wrong and know all of these doctors very well. If you knew anything about them you would see where they rank and they would be in the top doctors of Greensboro. Also, if you knew anything about insurance then you would know that they are getting paid less and less by these insurance companies each year so maybe you should go back into the medical field and get caught up. It is so very naive of you to think that they are making the "big bucks".

I'd say that you of all people dont have the right to put anyone in a level of poor quality since you are misinformed and clearly uneducated in this area and shouldn't be commenting on the things that you so clearly don't know. You have my sympathies as well.

Linus_61

February 8, 2010 - 6:12 pm EST

kurts12gauge-your name says it all---but seriously-those doctors are in the wrong business then and should find some other work-fifteen minutes a patient isn't going to do a thing

kirk12

February 8, 2010 - 9:23 pm EST

To ehb: To Linus 61--These MDs are not in the wrong business, they have cared for many patients, they have delivered good care!! My children received good care from these people. 20 plus years in the medical field has given me the view from both sides. MDs have changed their practice of care. Hospitals have changed the way they deliver care. It has Not solved the problems. When you need care from any medical setting, ALWAYS have someone with you and do not just accept. Question everything. Get second and third opinions if necessary. Then pray alot that YOU have made the correct decision. But understand that paying big bucks does not get the best care!!!!! Big bucks gets you early and longer appointments and phone numbers. Pray that someone will be able to solve--in a non political way--the problems in our health care system, IT IS BROKEN!!!!

ehb8512

February 8, 2010 - 9:42 pm EST

Kirk: I agree that there's no perfect answer to the health care system, but for you to argue what you had been arguing in your two previous posts claiming that what these doctors are doing is wrong and claiming that they make all of this money is absurd. I agree that there may be a lot of issues with our health care system but what these 3 doctors are doing in Greensboro is taking the first step to solving some of these issues and it enables them to provide the top notch care to their patients. If your argument now is to "pray a lot and pray you have made the right decision" then I can agree with you but I hope you are now informed as to why your initial arguments are not, and will never be, valid.

kirk12

February 8, 2010 - 10:35 pm EST

You are wrong, the insurance payments are part of what is broken, you said they are not paid well. They are stepping up into big bucks. sell out but don't push to get it fixed is not the answer. You are too blind to see both sides, you have one side and that is part of the problem in trying to fix it. everyone wans it to go their wa and refuse to see the other side. you can not see beyound your nose and never will

ehb8512

February 9, 2010 - 5:48 pm EST

Talk about level of poor quality...not only do you have no clue what's going on but you can't spell or form a proper argument for the life of you. I've seen both sides and so have these doctors and selling out is not the decision they're making. If you knew anything about these doctors they have been doctors for over 20 years (which you should know since you say you know them so well- which you obviously dont), so clearly they've seen both sides and are making the appropriate decision based on their experience. And you previously said that you know these doctors make the big bucks and now you're saying they're stepping up into big bucks, I mean seriously, form a proper argument and stick with it. Not only that, this is the first step in fixing the problem. What do you suggest? These doctors give free healthcare and go broke because the insurance companies are ripping them off? Haha good plan genius. I mean obviously the insurance is where the problem is (see my above posting about these doctor not getting paid) which is why these doctors are doing this in the first place. They're underpaid and are over-worked and this program allows them to continue to concentrate on their patients without working 18 hours a day at $18 an hour. You're clearly the one who can't see beyond your nose and it's obvious that you have no knowledge of this topic (sadly since you were in the medical field) and you are incapable of forming a proper argument because you have no clue what you're talking about. I feel very sorry for the fact that you know nothing about the field you worked in. Do some research and then come back to me with an argument that makes sense and doesn't contradict itself and try not to embarass yourself. Good Luck.

kirk12

February 9, 2010 - 7:10 pm EST

To ehb I am sorry you personality is to be unpleasant and ugly. You are one of those persons that will not --can not handle discussion a civil manner. Good luck with wasting your money also.

ehb8512

February 9, 2010 - 8:17 pm EST

If I were you I would refer to your own posts which will prove who the unpleasant and ugly one is, but that's a perfect response when you have nothing better to say. I recommend you not only re-read the article but I would also suggest going back to school before you try to argue a subject you are so completely uneducated on.

And oh, by the way, I wont be wasting my money because the money isn't the issue here, remember...it's about getting the best care by the best doctors.

You have some catching up to do so I'd suggest you get started.

kirk12

February 9, 2010 - 9:44 pm EST

ehb with your personality you need to pay extra for some body any body to care for you. You must be one of those persons that need to feel important enough so you pay for the cell phone number

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