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Keep officers in schools, parents say

Friday, January 29, 2010
(Updated 7:51 am)

GREENSBORO — Parents and community members continue to hammer home with school officials their support for law enforcement officers in schools.

Several people told the Guilford County Board of Education on Thursday night that teachers and principals need school resource officers.

Lisa Clapp, who has two children in Guilford County Schools, said students who commit crimes at schools should be considered real threats. She warned the board to forget any idea of replacing school resource officers with private security guards.

“That is like putting a cocker spaniel as a guard dog,” Clapp said.

The school board met with representatives from the sheriff’s office and High Point and Greensboro police departments to discuss school officers and the use of stun guns by those officers. The board is split over the stun gun issue, and some board members have expressed concerns about the use of officers.

Groups opposing stun guns and school officers have lobbied the board in recent months, but it was only those in support who spoke Thursday night.

Other than the public comment, the school board did not take up the issue during the meeting.

In other business, the board very quickly reviewed a proposal to change policies that govern how it lays off employees.

The proposed policy change shifts the process away from a focus on seniority and places more emphasis on what positions the superintendent deems most necessary.

The board gave the policy initial approval, allowing it to be made available for public comment.

Board member Darlene Garrett, who sits on the committee that develops policy and procedures for the district, said she doesn’t think many people are aware of the proposed changes.

She said the committee took up revising the policy because it became clear it was outdated during the budget process last year, when the district faced a shortfall.

“It’s looking like it will be another bad year,” Garrett said.

The school board did not use the policies last year.

Positions were eliminated, but officials found jobs within the district for those employees who requested one. However, many annual contracts were not renewed.

Vice Chairman Amos Quick supported putting the policy out for comment but said he does not know enough yet about the policy to say whether he will support it.

Quick said he received several phone calls from people who had concerns about the policy change, but he said he was not able to get their specific concerns.

The board likely will take the policy up again next month.

Contact J. Brian Ewing at 373-7351 or brian.ewing@news-record.com

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blackstream

January 29, 2010 - 9:23 am EST

When we have gotten to the point that we need LEO's in our schools, this says a lot about the condition of our society. And none of it is good. The worst of it is, this was forseen probably as far back as forty years ago. When so called experts like Dr. Spock said we should respect our childrens' decisions, basically allowing them to do what they wanted to, many went along with that theory. We've had do gooders that go to college to learn how to tell others how to raise their children, never having children of their own. So called experts who have all the answers, but really don't understand the questions. Law makers who, over time, passed laws that makes it illegal to correct a child because even a simple spanking is now considered child abuse. I agree there are parents out there who go way beyond a spanking. The problem is, the so called experts never do anything about those cases until it's too late. They spend so much of their time concentrating on the kid who comes to schoo and complains that mom or dad took their cell phone, or took away their computer privialeges. There are kids who will even make stuff up just to get even with their parents for attempting to punish them. The courts readily accept whatever these kids say at face value because a kid won't lie, yet they won't believe them when they are telling the truth about something they're being accused of doing wrong. Now, we're forced to put officers in school because we can't trust the kids anymore. What's next? Will we be scared of our own kids to the point we have to lock them in their rooms at night to keep them from slitting our throats in our sleep? I remember as a kid, you very rarely ever heard of a teen being charged as an adult for something. If you did, it was something horrible. Now, it has become the norm, and for a long list of crimes. I'm neither in agreement, nor disagrement, with the issue of officers in school. I'm just merely pointing out my opinion of why they are there to start with. I wonder how many parents, and public officials, will post here and disagree with what I have said. Do they have a better answer? If so, let's hear it. The mentallity in our society is to treat the symptom while the disease continues to thrive. Perhaps some old fashioned values could be taught. And punishment, in whatever form that works best (this does not mean go out and beat your child senseless) to be allowed. There are those with college educations who need to learn that not all answers come from a book. Raising a child is very much like being a doctor or lawyer... it's a practice, not an exact science. When it comes to discipline, we need to think with our brains, not our hearts. Instead of feeling sorry for them because you remember how it felt when you got punished, remember how well that punishment worked. The biggest thing kids aren't taught anymore is to respect others, and themselves. And they need to learn the true meaning of respect!

jcpeters0320

January 29, 2010 - 10:18 am EST

The high school I attended had an LEO as our SRO. Also, I attend school for Early Chidhood and Psychology so I may be one of those people you're ranting about but unlike most of the "experts" I have a child and when those methods are used correctly along with true discipline, they do work. I have strangers ask me if my son is scared of me because he is so well mannered and well behaved. Well, he's 9 years old, has never been spanked ONCE....why? I started disciplining him as soon as he was old enough to understand it. You think that those methods don't work and like the majority of those who disagree with the "expert" methods, didn't start early enough or resorted to spanking immediately without even trying.

onetrickydude

January 29, 2010 - 10:16 am EST

Culprit = TV

Yoda

January 29, 2010 - 1:14 pm EST

It's Hog wash for anyone think discipline without corporal punish works best. We have raise three sons and no matter how hard we tried "NOT" to spank them it wouldn't work. There were times when spanking was the only way to fix the problem. I am in a position where I counsel many people and I can't think of one parent that said spanking wasn't necessary not one, to the contrary, they all say no matter what they end up doing using corporal punish was the answer. I do know out of the three sons we raised one didn't need spanking as much as the other two but still spanking was needed. Let me explain what I mean by spanking, A couple of hits on the "butt only" with a switch or a belt, not beating a child, not hitting them in the head ect.

I remember when I was in school we would get three licks with the paddle if needed and believe me I needed them. Never did I think of hitting a teacher or a principle had I done that, when I got home I would have got my butt tore up good. Our mom use to use a barber strap on us, believe me a few hits with that thing put things in perspective.

Now-a-days kids cuss the teacher and the principle out, jump on them beat them up. gang up on other kids and hurt them. Things are out of hand, and telling these kids today "go stand in a corner or you have time out" just won't cut the mustard. I think corporal discipline is necessary if it means using a taser then so be it.

The truth is, it is about who's being tased the most. It's mostly with the blacks, that's not a racist remark it's the truth until they are willing to face the truth and deal with it in the homes of these kids (be them White, Black, Mexican or whatever) before they get to the size and age where taser are needed there will always be the need for taser.

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