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More confusion over bond votes

Friday, January 22, 2010
(Updated 10:44 am)

GREENSBORO — Two days after the Greensboro City Council aired its confusion over funding for a proposed downtown hotel, Guilford County commissioners realized they too made key mistakes regarding the project.

Both boards believe they didn’t get enough information or time to review the requests vying to take advantage of millions in preferential federal financing.

In the case of the commissioners, they voted last month to put the Ole Asheboro Hotel project ahead of five other qualifying projects, giving it nearly all of the county’s first allocation of American Recovery and Reinvestment Act bonds.

Now, at least five of those commissioners say they didn’t realize the other projects would have to wait for funding — and endure more scrutiny — because of their move.

“I was just laughing the other day that the Greensboro City Council could have approved something without realizing they’d done it,” Commissioner Linda Shaw said.

“But I guess here we are in the same boat. I guess you’d have to say shame on us,” she said. “It’s not the staff’s fault, and the county manager always makes sure we’re informed. We just should have been more careful.”

The recovery zone facility bonds were created under the 2009 federal stimulus act. The program allows private developers to borrow at a low interest rate.

The bonds are funded and paid for privately — local taxpayers are not liable. But the construction projects still have to meet financial muster with a state commission before the bonds can be issued.

Both Guilford County and Greensboro got an allocation under the program — $19 million for Greensboro and $9.8 million for the county — that allowed them to approve projects that could take advantage of the preferential financing.

The hotel project, backed by a local group of investors, would be a 200-room, eight-story luxury hotel on the corner of South Elm Street and February One Place.

Commissioners voted last month to approve $46.3 million worth of projects. They included the hotel, an east Greensboro shopping plaza, a Summerfield veterinary hospital and two solar energy projects.

Commissioners approved the projects in order of priority, with the proposed hotel at the top.

Since the hotel’s $9 million request used up nearly all of the county’s allocation, the other projects might have to wait for the next round of federal money. Those other projects will face much greater scrutiny than the hotel and others in the first round, according to guidelines released by the state Wednesday.

Additional projects will be approved by a state commission and have to prove their positive effect on the community, including private investment and job creation.

Projects in this initial allocation, including the hotel, do not have to meet those standards.

It is possible the hotel still might not get approved for the special financing.

A new study of the hotel’s viability reported earlier this week that projected revenue would not be enough to cover the debt, confirming fears some critics have been voicing for months.

That kind of scrutiny has been lacking for projects in this initial round, which had to be submitted before a Dec. 15 deadline.

For instance, the county’s bond authority vetted the projects and prioritized them, with virtually no guidelines.

“We were given the applications,” said Bradley Peete , a member of that authority. “But that was just information from the developers themselves. We didn’t have the time or any way of independently verifying any of that.”

Peete said the board tried to rank the projects based on how many jobs they would create.

While some would create temporary construction jobs, Peete said none of the projects seemed likely to create long-term full-time jobs.

County Attorney Mark Payne said the authority got few guidelines for earmarking the money because few were provided by the state and federal government.

“No one gave us any criteria of how we would even evaluate various different applicants,” Payne said. “There were broad qualifying criteria, but beyond that nothing. And the fewer rules you have, the more confusion.”

Commissioners Shaw, Paul Gibson, Mike Winstead, Kirk Perkins and Billy Yow said that confusion led them to vote before they had all the relevant information — even though Payne repeatedly explained the process at the Dec. 10 meeting.

“We didn’t ask all the questions we should have,” said Gibson . “I thought I understood what we were voting for, but clearly I didn’t. There clearly should have been more discussion.”

Perkins said the commissioners were eager to approve something that would inject money into the local economy. The bonds seemed like a way to do that, Perkins said, but the commissioners might not have been as careful in approving them as they would have been with local tax money.

“I will say that I certainly didn’t understand,” Winstead said. “If we all completely understood what was going on, there would have been much more discussion of it, much more scrutiny.”

Yow said he believes the details were glossed over for one reason: Chairman Melvin “Skip” Alston was a broker on the hotel deal.

Alston was not yet part of the project at the time of the Dec. 10 meeting — he said he signed on Dec. 21 — but he abstained from the vote.

When asked why he stepped out of the meeting room before the vote, Alston later said he was in negotiations to become a broker and wanted to avoid a conflict of interest.

Several commissioners said Alston should have revealed that before the vote.

“It takes a minimum amount of effort to be honest with people,” Yow said. “He should have just said to us this was his project, he was involved. I know that would have meant people paid more attention. There would have been more questions. It wouldn’t have just gone through unnoticed like this.”

Alston said that, beyond signing the resolution as chairman of the commissioners to approve the bonds, he has stayed clear of the matter to prevent a conflict.

He refused to disclose how much money he could make from the $54 million project.

“That’s none of your business, frankly,” Alston said. “I don’t ask how much you make.”

The deadline for projects wishing to benefit from the next round of federal bond allocations is Feb. 15. There is no word yet on when those bonds might be awarded.

 

Contact Joe Killian at 373-7023 or joe.killian@news-record.com

 

Contact Amanda Lehmert at 373-7075 or amanda.lehmert@news-record.com

Accompanying Photos

John Newsom (News & Record)

Photo Caption: This parking deck is part of the property being considered for a new luxury hotel in downtown Greensboro.

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Abner Doon

January 22, 2010 - 7:37 am EST

"The bonds are funded and paid for privately — local taxpayers are not liable. But the construction projects still have to meet financial muster with a state commission before the bonds can be issued."

If the developer fails to pay the money back, credit rating agencies could conclude Greensboro and Guilford County Governments were neglegent, and raise taxpayer costs of borrowing money by downgrading the city and county.

Local Taxpayers would be liable for the parking deck, without which, the hotel is a nonstarter.

And our community would most likely be sticking older municipal bond buyers who live in North Carolina.

It's not like the Central Bank of China is going to buy them.

Skip Alston should be ashamed of himself.

Unaffiliated

January 22, 2010 - 8:17 am EST

All elected officials (Greensboro & Guilford County) should be ashamed! Bowing to special interest groups is not the right or legal thing to do. It appears to me that the ego of each member has surfaced & these self-serving folks need a dose of reality. It's not ok to continue to make decisions and have the attitude that they will not get caught & suffer the consequences. Wake up citizens & tax payers.

Ed Cone

January 22, 2010 - 8:32 am EST

This is a mess, bordering on fiasco, with overtones of farce.

One quibble with Abner's point about pensioners getting stuck with the bonds -- my guess is that these bonds would not be investment grade, and so would be held by institutions and individuals with an appetite for risk, not typical muni-bond buyers.

Abner Doon

January 22, 2010 - 9:32 am EST

Except for typical municipal bond fund buyers, usually including those who can’t purchase large quantities, who have no idea what is being purchased, because it’s packaged and sold to them as not risky.

Let’s not kid ourselves.

Subprime was a risk free AAA right up until it wasn’t.

citywatcher

January 22, 2010 - 9:32 am EST

I agree this is a mess. but whats done is done and we have to move forward. I do want to clarify something about the parking deck. Yes it will cost city taxpayers money, but the city was going to build it any way with or without this hotel. And frankly id rather for it to be built with the hotel because it would lease many of the parking spots which is a money generator for the city. Also, I reviewed the feasibilty study that concluded this hotel would not be able to pay off its debt and there was some things the study did not take into account. The study does NOT include revenue being generated from office space, retail space, restaurants and entertainment establishments that will be a part of the hotel project. Secondly the world's largest hotel feasibility study firm concluded the hotel would be feasible.

Beachwalk

January 22, 2010 - 10:39 am EST

It is true that Greensboro was planning on building a parking garage any way, but not in that location. How is a parking garage attached to a hotel going to relief the parking situation in Greensboro? Will the hotel guest be using those parking spots? This plan makes no sense.

citywatcher

January 22, 2010 - 10:48 am EST

Actually land near the hotel site is one of the locations that was being considered for a parking deck. furthermore, its the best location in my opinion because the site is in the heart of the entertainment and restaurant district. Patrons dont have to walk as far. The deck will hold about 400 cars. The hotel will lease about 160 spots. do the math and you'll see thats more than enough parking spots for general parking in that area off of Elm Street.

Beachwalk

January 22, 2010 - 3:40 pm EST

What is the negative impact of the parking spots Greensboro will be losing. Isn't the plan for the hotel to be built where there is already a parking garage? if you eliminate 200 (a wild guess) parking spots, replace it with 400 parking spots and lease out 160 of those spots, the net gain will only be 40 parking spots. Doesn't sound like Greensboro will be getting much bang for it's buck.

gogso

January 22, 2010 - 3:19 pm EST

Read the latest Business Journal. The same World's Largest Hotel Feasibility Study Firm has determined it will not work.

newkid

January 22, 2010 - 9:45 am EST

The appearance of conflict of interest--a county commissioner profiting from a real estate deal that was approved and promoted by the county--demands independent investigation and, if warranted, appointment of a special prosecutor.

jeaniegnc

January 22, 2010 - 10:20 am EST

If you have more than one feasibility study and they contradict each other, you would certainly need to gather more information and not move ahead and ignore the one that disagrees with your plans. I would like to know who is paying for these studies since that in itself might affect the information contained therein.

Both the city and county commissioners have admitted they voted on this hotel plan without enough information or with faulty information. If these commissioners want to restore some confidence in their ability, they need to slow down and gather information and not allow the city staff or anyone to rush this project through.

I, too, have a problem with Skip Alston being so heavily involved and not disclosing this to the other commissioners.

Beachwalk

January 22, 2010 - 10:41 am EST

If Skip Alston is involved, you can bet money will be wasted and misused.

eduguytoo

January 22, 2010 - 11:07 am EST

I beg to differ with Skip's comment about what he stands to make on this project to the effect of "It's none of your business...I don't ask what you make." If I tangle myself with public funding, I think that citizens have every right to know those details about me. Take the public funding away, and privacy should be assured. The concept isn't rocket science. That he cannot seem to separate these things in his mind is scary. The common thread in a lot of these recent local government fiascoes whether it be referendums, federal funding or whatever seems to be RUSH TO DECISION. When I have important decisions to make, I find that it's better to take my time and get it right. Anybody listening?

citywatcher

January 22, 2010 - 12:07 pm EST

As I stated, the recent feasibilty report DOES NOT include revenue from the office, retail and restaurant portion of this project which could act as a safety net in helping to pay the debt off. According to Kaplan, his group isnt interested in proceed forward unless an upscale chain such as Wyndham or Westin signs on because they would bring greater resources and their name would attract more guests. Apparently at least two of the upscale brands are interesting. Kaplan said earlier in a report they gave the city that two chains were interested.

Abner Doon

January 22, 2010 - 12:50 pm EST

Why wasn't an independent feasability study performed for the Aquatic Center?

Mick

January 22, 2010 - 1:27 pm EST

Something like what the Natural Science center did would have been good info. But that is diff froma hotel. But that is over now.

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