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Commissioners skeptical about merging depts. with Greensboro

Friday, January 8, 2010
(Updated 3:07 pm)

GREENSBORO — If it’s not broke, why fix it?

That was the consensus Thursday when Guilford County’s Board of Commissioners heard proposals for merging the county’s planning department with Greensboro’s and bringing the county’s human services under one organization.

The sticking point: neither change is likely to save money or improve efficiency.

“What’s the point?” said Commissioner Bruce Davis. “I was ready to hear the arguments, but once they said there were no cost savings and it wouldn’t really improve the work, I just didn’t understand why we would do it.”

On the question of consolidating oversight boards for the county’s public health, mental health authority and social services, the commissioners heard from County Attorney Mark Payne, Drake Maynard from the N.C. Office of State Personnel and Jerry Fox, a retired Mecklenburg County manager.

Maynard said the state hasn’t heard any complaints about Guilford County’s health services in the past few years, and the state has had no problem working with them. The merger was entirely up to the county, he said.

Fox said Mecklenburg County merged its human services agencies 20 years ago. While he couldn’t point to any cost savings or specific examples of efficiency, he said he believed it improved communication between departments and gave the county commissioners more control over the departments and their employees without having to go through the state’s personnel office.

“I think your decision would probably be made on your belief in a system where the county commissioners are directly accountable for services that use a lot of county funds,” Fox said.

That was an argument that appealed to board Chairman Melvin “Skip” Alston, who said he supports the commissioners having more direct control. Challenged on the point by other commissioners, Alston said there had been “whisperings” about miscommunications between departments that he thought the board should deal with more openly.

Davis was joined by Commissioners Carolyn Coleman and Mike Winstead in asking just what Alston meant, and who had been whispering.

“Well, I’ve been whispering,” Alston finally said. “And someone should be shouting it out loud.”

But without any actual evidence of miscommunication or inefficiency, Alston couldn’t convince the rest of the board.

“I’m not whispering,” Davis said. “I’m shouting out loud it’s a bad idea.”

“Our service isn’t a problem, we’re not saving money, and the only other thing I could see in it is getting away from the state,” Winstead said. “That doesn’t seem to be a problem either.”

“I think we can probably improve what we’ve got right now without necessarily having to go all the way to merging those departments,” said Commissioner Kirk Perkins.

None of the heads of the human services departments were asked to speak Thursday. Several commissioners suggested getting them all in one room to establish whether there are problems. Alston agreed, but argued fewer layers between the departments and the commissioners would make them easier to manage.

“It don’t have to be broke for us to fix it better,” Alston said.

The discussion of merging the planning departments was a little more complex.

Marlene Sanford is chairwoman of the Intergovernmental Planning Task Force, which has been studying a merger since April. She’s also president of the Triad Real Estate and Building Industry Coalition. She said her task force’s study found that the county can’t count on a merger saving money or making the departments more efficient, but it would make development easier once the economy turns around.

Sanford’s task force recommended a merger by the end of the year, saying the path for developers is too obstructed now.

In the end the commissioners agreed to consider the merger, but many said it might be better to concentrate on making the existing system more user-friendly.

Contact Joe Killian at 373-7023 or joe.killian@news-record.com

 

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superwoman

January 8, 2010 - 9:49 am EST

“It don’t have to be broke for us to fix it better,” ........
Do we have any English majors or professors reading?
I agree Mr. Alston, if something isn't broken then it doesn't need fixing but things in the county are "broken". I am wondering when the county will offer a way to "fix" things without cutting anymore positions or overloading the staff that remains. The population doesn't decrease, the work doesn't go away, and it seems that when complaints are filed, they just go away.
No one is expected to be perfect, have perfect dialect, or even type a letter without errors but again, the spotlight is on those who put themselves in the spotlight.

Joe Killian

January 8, 2010 - 11:11 am EST

In Mr. Alston's defense, I think he was just replying in-kind to the commonly phrased colloquial expression "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

superwoman

January 8, 2010 - 11:25 am EST

Why is he always defended.....I know what he was referring to and have heard the saying many times throughout our county system but we just wish someone would listen.....

laserguidedloogie

January 8, 2010 - 11:09 am EST

This is about centralization and control, not about "fixing" anything.

A bigger pot of money and a bigger bureaucracy makes every government lackey happy. That way incompetence, sloth, mismanagement, and lack of responsibility get diluted to the point that no one can ever be faulted for anything.

Ken
http://www.LaserGuidedLoogie.com

Joe Killian

January 8, 2010 - 11:28 am EST

Not defending his ideology, Superwoman (man, that is just an awesome sentence for a comic-geek to be able to write).

Was just defending, in this instance, his grammar.

I'm going to continue reporting this story and the pros and cons of this idea, which doesn't seem to exactly be on the fast-track.

Brentwood

January 8, 2010 - 3:01 pm EST

Superwoman...Breathe, relax, chill..whatever you are going through, it will be ok. Collect and then come back to us because clearly you are angry, or maybe you just come across that way. Eithier way, use your "Super" powers to spread joy, not evil. =)

superwoman

January 8, 2010 - 4:28 pm EST

Actually I am not angry at all...that is the problem with words in print rather than direct contact....usually interpreted the wrong way but I can understand why someone would think there is some discontent in my response. Thank you for your concern.

manonthemove

January 10, 2010 - 3:13 pm EST

I see another supporter of Alston. You need to look up the results(facts not hearsay) as to what the actions of Mr Alston and his band have done to the county. Sure what they are telling you and what actually is happening are two different things. As long as they are doing away with county services and no tax increase, he will always look like a hero. Wait till a taxpayer needs a county service and can't get anything accomplished because a department is short staffed. Who will get the back lash? The county employees will hear all the complaints. Sometimes these taxpayers can become very angry and vulgar. Where is Mr Alston then? Is it fair he gets to be a hero when the county employees have to deal with his actions?

triadwatch

January 9, 2010 - 2:07 pm EST

your article got me interested to see who are all the members of this intergovernmental commission , it is also amazing at who is the chair of this group the fox guarding the hen house, here is a post on the members of this group
http://triadwatch.blogspot.com/2010/01/marlene-sanford-greensboro-partne...

manonthemove

January 10, 2010 - 2:46 pm EST

I see where superwoman is coming from.NO ONE wants to listen!!!! If you worked for the county, you would see the mess the commissioners have made for the departments. They are so understaffed because the commissioners don't want to hire the needed workers to handle the workload. They want to look like heroes to the general public and have no tax increase. They haven't a clue as to what they have done. The employees can't speak up because they fear they may lose their jobs. The stress is overwhelming for them. This will only add to their sick days and increased doctor visits(increased health insurance). How many of the commissioners even know what the common person has to deal with on a daily basis? Where do they sit when it comes to their income?

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