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Hardin: When Roy Williams stops making sense

Sunday, December 20, 2009
(Updated 9:35 am)

North Carolina played Texas inside a football stadium Saturday afternoon, and Roy Williams didn't throw any Presbyterians out. So for at least one day, he was back to normal.

He's been through a lot lately, and that partly explains why he lost his mind last week in a scrimmage game against a tiny school from South Carolina that he had no business playing in the first place. He said some things afterward that made no sense at all, which leads us to believe it was the meds talking, so we gave him the benefit of the doubt. Williams apologized on Friday.

Sort of.

And then Saturday, we went down to Texas and ran into another guy from the North Carolina foothills who kicked his butt. So it was another long week in the life of Roy.

Basketball coaches sometimes forget they're just basketball coaches, and that's when they get into all sorts of trouble. That's why so many of them are always claiming to be something other than basketball coaches, claiming to be teachers or professors or credit card salesmen when in fact they're just basketball coaches.

Williams, to his credit, has never claimed to be anything but. Even when he was driving from Chapel Hill to Greensboro selling calendars all those years ago, he was just a basketball coach looking to make extra money for himself and his wife Wanda. You get the impression that maybe Wanda was the one who got him to sort of apologize Friday, reminding him he'd gotten a little above his raising, as they like to say up in the mountains.

No word from the Presbyterians if they'd bought his contrition or not.

Witnesses differ on what happened next, but everyone agrees that the Presbyterian said something to one of the Carolina players, and Williams heard it. What happened next is subject to interpretation, too, but the bottom line is Williams pointed out the poor guy and told him to shut up.

"Yeah, I'm talking to you," he said.

Then he sicced security on him, and the next thing you know the Presbyterian was being dragged from his seat. Then they concocted some story about him being drunk, when everybody knows Presbyterians don't drink, and they said some other things about him that weren't true and the next thing you know he was being banished from the church of Chapel Hill by Williams himself.

Or so said some of the scribes who were there.

Williams then took it out on the rest of the Presbyterians in a 103-64 beating. He spoke about it afterward, albeit briefly. He suggested no one can buy a ticket to a UNC game and pull for the other team. He suggested if it had happened on a playground he would've handled it different.

"But I'm from the mountains," Williams explained.

Please.

There was a lot of reaction to it in the coming days, people wanting Williams to clarify his remarks and his actions, people wanting to hear what the Presbyterian had to say. He said he wasn't drunk and that he'd been invited down there by a friend, and all he said anyway was "Hey Deon, don't miss it!" when Deon Thompson stepped to the free-throw line in the otherwise quiet cathedral of Chapel Hill basketball.

Williams heard it, and that set into motion the events that led to all that followed. He was still explaining it days later, and on Friday he sort of said he was sorry.

"It's a non-issue," he said. "It may not be a non-issue to anybody, but I guarantee you it's a non-issue to me. Add one thing, I'm sorry it happened. I wish it hadn't happened."

Then he brought up something about New York and said sportswriters had no idea what it was like to be yelled at in a basketball game, which only happens 100 times or so a season so that's a non-issue, too.

Listen, there are a lot of basketball coaches in this state and a lot of schools that play basketball. But there's only one that wears the name of our state on the front of the uniform, so rightly or wrongly, some people judge us by what Williams and his basketball team do or say. When he had a fan removed from behind his bench after telling him to shut up, it made us all look bad.

He deserves to be poked in the ribs a little, but not his shoulder. Besides, imagine what the nation would be saying had this been Mike Krzyzewski.

Roy said he was sorry, and that made us all look good again. But then he went down to Texas and lost Saturday to another North Carolinian inside a football stadium, which just confused a bunch of people from the mountains.

Contact Ed Hardin at 373-7069 or ed.hardin@news-record.com

Accompanying Photos

Gerry Broome (Associated Press)

Photo Caption: Roy Williams

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Voice of Reason

December 20, 2009 - 11:35 am EST

The Tarheels may have "North Carolina" stitched across their jerseys, but they don't represent me. Tarheel fans have a bad attitude, whether they win or lose. Win, and they're obnoxious, saying anyone who hasn't bought into the Carolina fad is "just jealous." Lose, and they are worse, again, because we're all jealous. Their arrogance aggravates me to no end! No other fans in the country EXPECT to win the National Championship EVERY year, and no other fans consider the season a waste if they don't (come to think of it, no other fans consider God a fan because of the color of something he created either). Lose the ACC tourney? That's OK, we didn't want to win that one any way. Its the Nat'l title we want. Honestly, the bad attitude and excuses tire me. Carolina fans, get over yourselves. Stop defending Coach Williams when he loses his head and makes a clear mistake- you know he was wrong. And while you're at it, chill with the Carolina Blue sweatsuits, they're dreadful.

DaveW

December 20, 2009 - 5:49 pm EST

They quit having a live Nativity Scene in Chapel Hill.
They were unable to find EITHER 3 wise men or a virgin.

countryboy

December 21, 2009 - 8:15 am EST

The wise men all graduated and left to teach in Raleigh and Durham. And kudos to Roy and any other coach (even Mikey) that takes such action. In our "devolution" we have become a crass, vulgar, mindless society. Why should patrons who paid to enjoy a ballgame have to sit next to a mush minded "student" who chooses to express his intellect and his parents child raising skills through profanities? If Presbyterian has any moral standard, they will investigate...and when they discover the language he was using, they should discipline him. Then again, that would damage his self-esteem...and we can't do that.

countryboy

December 21, 2009 - 8:18 am EST

Voice...thank you for your taxes that support Carolina athletics. I promise not to gloat when they suprise everyone and win the ACC in this "rebuilding year".

Voice of Reason

December 21, 2009 - 9:09 am EST

I don't believe you, you'll gloat. lol

But seriously, you Tarheel fans lift Roy up to a God-like status and get the best recruiting class in the ACC, if not the country, every year. You have the most money and have the most fans (apparently) in the world. You SHOULD win the ACC, every year. The funny thing is, many times you don't. And that, to me, is priceless. ABC.

dcolin

December 20, 2009 - 8:56 pm EST

Do people actually go to basketball games?

I would think the only thing worse than watching one on TV would to actually be there.

Energy

December 21, 2009 - 1:31 am EST

This strikes me as slipshod reporting. It shouldn't be a big deal, but if newspaper columnists insist on feeding fires with assumptions and incorrect statements, in this case a combination, then I guess someone should respond.

- So RW heard the statement, "Miss it," "Don't miss it," or whatever it was, from either the area where coaches and players are given tickets or the area right beside it. It doesn't make sense for those on coach/player tickets or those who donated a lot of money to sit nearby to cheer against UNC. Therefore, when RW hears this, he points it out to security. This person MAY have gone to seats that were not rightfully his and was making the game experience unpleasant for the friends and family of the team. (RW has to hear this and think about the families of his players. He admitted as much later, referencing the unpleasant atmosphere at MSG in NYC.)

RW NEVER said people in the Smith Center should not root against UNC. He said people on "our tickets" should not..."our tickets" being those distributed by the coaches and players.

- RW did not try to have the gentleman removed. All he did was point him out to security. Maybe RW wanted security to make sure he was in the right seat. There have been allegations about drinking and misbehavior, which may or may not have been the case. It is not particularly relevant here. Maybe security thought RW wanted the person removed or maybe the Presbyterian fan responded in a way that made security think he should leave. (This person did admit to drinking earlier in the day, but again, this is not the issue.) As the video clearly shows, all RW did was look at security and point at the person. This does not an ejection make.

Aren't these the kinds of things a columnist is supposed to find out when publishing a piece? This is an extremely poor piece of journalism.

Voice of Reason

December 21, 2009 - 8:45 am EST

Oh Tarheel fans. Bitter much? lol

gb84

December 21, 2009 - 10:47 am EST

Not bitter, just better.....

Voice of Reason

December 21, 2009 - 2:08 pm EST

At least you're humble....

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