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3 Democrats hope to unseat Burr

Sunday, December 13, 2009
(Updated 3:00 am)

RALEIGH — Before the Democrats seeking their party’s nomination for U.S. senator try to distinguish themselves from Republican incumbent Richard Burr, they might want to worry about setting themselves apart from one another.

In surveys testing various Democratic contenders — former state Sen. Cal Cunningham of Lexington, Durham lawyer Kenneth Lewis and Secretary of State Elaine Marshall — against Burr, they all fared about the same.

“What people are really answering is a party question....I could have asked about the proverbial yellow dog and would have gotten about the same result,” said Dean Debnam, president of Public Policy Polling, a firm that works mainly for Democratic candidates.

While it’s too early to draw conclusions about a general election outcome — most handicappers say Burr has a number of advantages on his road to re-election — a November survey by Debnam’s company shows the three most likely nominees taking about 33 percent of the vote against a fairly steady 45 percent for the incumbent.

While those numbers suggest that any of the three have work to do to win over rank-and-file voters, there’s at least one small subset of decision-making party officials who have made their preference known.

Even though Lewis and Marshall have been in the race for months and similar surveys show few innate preferences among primary voters, party leaders in Washington with the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee continued not-so-subtly shopping for another candidate through Thanksgiving.

They settled on Cunningham last week after higher-profile Democrats said no and after he had announced that this wasn’t the year for him to run.

In an interview last week, Cunningham acknowledged that a “path to victory” opened after Rep. Bob Etheridge — the last of the Democrats’ more established potential candidates — declined to run.

The fundraising game

To be sure, other Democrats will file to run in the primary when the filing period opens in February. But party insiders say there’s not enough time or money available from donors for an unknown to mount a reasonable challenge.

“It’s awfully late, and there’s not a lot of oxygen left in the room for anyone else,” said Gary Pearce, a longtime Democratic consultant who is not working for the candidates.

Based on polling, if this were merely an intramural battle among North Carolina players, the field might look fairly even.

“Whoever raises the most money and makes the fewest mistakes will be the (nominee),” Debnam said.

Because he was tapped by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, Cunningham might have an advantage at raising money from interests out of state, Debnam said. Federal Election Commission reports show Lewis and Marshall each with less than $200,000 in the bank as of Oct. 1.

If any of the three candidates file their next campaign report with a “big number” — something approaching over $1 million that far outpaces his or her competitors — that could go a long way toward establishing that person as the front-runner. Otherwise, the three could find themselves in what Pearce described as a “trench war” until the May primary.

Last year’s race between Hagan and former Republican Sen. Elizabeth Dole cost more than $45 million when spending by the candidates and their parties was added up. Most of that went toward television commercials, which will be key in building name recognition and chipping away at Burr.

“That’s going to be the big question for all three: How much money can they raise?” Pearce said.

On health care reform

On domestic policy, the three Democrats share many of the same views.

Each says they support the ongoing effort toward reforming the nation’s health care system. And each said they would have rejected the Stupak amendment, which would have limited access to abortion.

“The short answer is we need reform; I would have voted to get into this debate,” Cunningham said, adding that future Congresses likely will have to continue working on the issue.

All three outlined what have become common talking points on the topic: Any bill needs to lower cost while insuring more people and remedying abuses in the system such as denying health coverage to those with pre-existing conditions.

None seemed happy with the idea that Congressional Democrats could give up on the public option — a federally run health insurance plan that would be available to those who don’t have coverage. Creating such a publicly run player has been touted as a way to encourage insurance companies to keep costs low and to prod them to cover those who they may have rejected.

“I am very doubtful we can achieve those objectives without there being a public option in the mix,” Lewis said.

Marshall said oversight and eliminating loopholes would be critical in any new health care plan.

“The public option would be the best way to do that now,” she said. “We’ve got to have a way to do that.”

For his part, Cunningham said, “the public option can be an important component to cutting costs and providing consumers with real options.”

On war in Afghanistan

During interviews last week, the sharpest contrast among the three came in their reaction to President Barack Obama’s plan to send 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan.

Cunningham, who was a prosecutor in Iraq and earned a Bronze Star, said the president was on the “right path.” He said the extra troops would be critical in suppressing the Taliban, a group with an extreme view of Islam that allowed the al-Qaida terrorist group to use the country as a base of operations before the Sept. 11 attacks.

“I have seen the importance of boots on the ground to retaking momentum, to breaking the back of an insurgency,” Cunningham said.

Lewis said he was “still evaluating” the president’s decision. “I like the fact that his position recognizes that the length of our commitment should be limited in scope,” he said.

Bur Marshall said, “What he announced is something I really don’t support. We have invested billions of dollars in that part of the world....If there is nation-building that is to take place, it needs to happen right here in America.”

Contact Mark Binker at (919) 832-5549 or mark.binker@news-record.com

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Democratic Challengers

Cal Cunningham

Age: 36

Family: Married, two children

Occupation: Lawyer

Political experience: He served one term in the state Senate from 2001-02.

The rest of the story: Cunningham is a veteran of the Iraq war. A captain and paratrooper, Cunningham earned a Bronze Star for his service as the senior trial counsel in the Office of the Staff Judge Advocate.

Biggest knock: Aside from his initial decision not to run, opponents may bring up a campaign pledge he made not to raise any taxes when he ran in 2000. In the next General Assembly session, Cunningham voted for a budget that had $190 million in what supporters called “loophole closings.” Cunningham said he also had promised during the 2000 campaign to do things like preserve open space and raise teacher pay. “We had one vote on the state budget. And I could have either supported ... the 16 things in that budget that I had pledged to do” or voted the budget down based on the taxes.

Kenneth Lewis

Age: 47

Family: Married, three children

Occupation: Lawyer

Political experience: Lewis has never run for office himself, but he has been a fundraiser and worked behind the scenes for the likes of Harvey Gantt and Erskine Bowles. He helped raise money for Barack Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign.

The rest of the story: A Harvard-educated lawyer, Lewis is a partner with Womble Carlyle Sandridge & Rice, one of the state’s biggest firms. He joined there after running his own firm, which specialized in law related to economic development and affordable housing. His grandmother died at the age of 100 in the year his oldest daughter was born. “She was born in Person County, where her mother had been a slave,” Lewis said.

Biggest knock: Aside from sharing a name with a certain unpopular Bank of America CEO, Lewis’ biggest weakness might be that he’s a relative unknown to voters and to many in political circles. “I’ve been involved in politics in every way you can be except as a candidate,” Lewis said. He also stressed that he’s a North Carolina native whose parents and grandparents are also from this state.

Elaine Marshall

Age: 64

Family: Recently widowed, five step-children and seven grandchildren

Occupation: Secretary of state

Political experience: She has served as secretary of state since 1997, and served one term in the state Senate.

The rest of the story: Marshall grew up on a farm in rural Maryland near the Pennsylvania border. She still shudders when she recalls one of her childhood chores — washing eggs to prepare them for market. “Wet eggs smell,” Marshall explained, because they still have some chicken feces attached. “The upbringing I had on a rural farm, I think is the best survival skill for anybody in any walk of life and certainly is very, very helpful in campaigning and in public office,” she said. “You’ve got to find the positive. You’ve got to figure out how to get things done, and rural folks are creative in that way.”

Biggest knock: Even though it is a statewide office, the secretary of state isn’t exactly a household name despite being deeply involved in business. But Marshall’s biggest liability may be her run in the 2002 Democratic primary when she placed third behind eventual nominee Erskine Bowles, who lost to then-Rep. Richard Burr. Marshall pointed out she was the first woman elected to statewide executive office and beat NASCAR legend Richard Petty in her first 1996 run for secretary of state.

 

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hgals01

December 13, 2009 - 8:16 am EST

The people of Greensboro, NC, and the country are moving much more conservative. People want to keep their savings for the American Dream. People of have already have learned that bailouts do not work. We need to get back to 3.5% unemployment rate here in Greensboro. None of these candidates want lower taxes for people or business. Richard Burr is a trusted name here in NC, and Washington. He is in support to win the war, and not dither like most democrats.

jeffic_fail

December 13, 2009 - 8:52 am EST

How do you figure the people of the country are moving conservative when we just elected a liberal President last November? Jeffic Fail!

RonaldusMagnus

December 13, 2009 - 9:48 am EST

Yes, we elected a very liberal president in November that campained as a moderate and even conservative on alot of issues. Now that people are finding out just how radically left this president is his approval is dropping like a rock. If liberals are honest about there agenda and who they are they will be rejected by the majority every time.

NRay

December 13, 2009 - 10:07 am EST

Your comment is also fascinating. You say Mr. Obama is "radically left", but this doesn't square with what he has done. He has supported Wall Street and Big Capital with fantastic endowments of public money. He has not pushed anything like the radical financial reforms necessary to rein in the vampire capitalists who helped bring us our current Great Recession. There is absolutely no program in place to put Americans back to work. His proposals for Afghanistan would have been recognizable if made by George Bush. "Health care reform" is a watery soup that will be little better than the mess we have now, and he hasn't really pushed even that. I am curious from you too: just what has Mr. Obama done that you believe is so "radically left"? What Mr. Obama has done actually looks a lot more Center Right.

opec

December 13, 2009 - 12:20 pm EST

Not "radically left"? Apparently, you know nothing about the guy you voted for, nor his associates.

NRay

December 13, 2009 - 1:00 pm EST

Whether I support Mr. Obama or not does not matter. What does matter, is that I did pose is a question to you to describe the "radical left" policies that are worrying you. If you would be specific, maybe the ignorant would see your point and join you. Again, I will politely ask for a response for we who are wondering.

RonaldusMagnus

December 13, 2009 - 4:22 pm EST

How about a goverment takeover of healthcare. How about a one trillion dollar cap and tax plan. Either of which could destroy this country and goes against everything that has made this country great. If you want socialism or communism move to Cuba, Canada, etc.

NRay

December 13, 2009 - 4:46 pm EST

Well, the very modest health reform plan I have read about is far from a government takeover of the system. And if you call it "radical", then what would you say it's more radical than. Every other first world country has a system far more centralised than that which is proposed for us. So, to the extent we are "radical" in our approach to health care, then we are radically conservative. The same with cap and trade. The United States did not invent this plan and, again, it's supported by a majority of first world countries. By definition, we are therefore again not radical, but are rather right of centrist mainstream in our lukewarm support for cap and trade. I still don't see how Mr. Obama is, as I have read here, "radical left".

Theo

December 13, 2009 - 6:17 pm EST

"It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success too. My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody. I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody"....How are statements likes this not radical? He thinks every person has a "right" to healthcare. He thinks Labor Unions should be allowed to organize without a secret ballot. He works with Bill Ayers to funnel more than $50 million to anti-capitalist projects. He marched with illegals in Chicago. He has promised to dramatically reduce defense spending.....I can go on and on but yes Mr. O is a big time radical Lib.

NRay

December 13, 2009 - 9:46 pm EST

Consider what you just said. If spreading the wealth around is radical, then Republican Theodore Roosevelt was radical when he attacked concentrated capital in his trust-busting campaigns. FDR was radical in spreading wealth to the elderly in the form of social security payments. Unemployment insurance is certainly a wealth transfer. As for healthcare, I believe most of humanity would agree that access to healthcare is a right, but, of course, that point is debatable. The unions used to have the secret ballot, so giving it back to them could not be called a radical departure from our historical practices. As for defense spending, didn't the President just this week announce a large additional force of soldiers going to Afghanistan? (But then, your views on taxes would seem to indicate you would approve a reduction in defense expenditures, as they must be paid for out of tax revenues gathered by the federal government.) You will indeed have to go on to prove the "radical liberalness" of Mr. Obama, as none of the policy examples you noted seem to be much of a departure from the past.

dcolin

December 13, 2009 - 4:35 pm EST

You simply don't understand.

Obama has supported these greedy Islamic Communist, Marxist bankers.
This is all follow on completion of the conspiracy first conceived by the Elders of Zion,
prior to WWI.

All these conspirators ( evil elves ) are based/headquartered in secret underground bunkers in Geneva Switzerland

opec

December 13, 2009 - 12:54 pm EST

Well jeffic, since the election a lot of people have realize just how they've been duped. In other words, politics as usual. But on a much more sinister scale.

Thomas G Smothers Jr

December 14, 2009 - 6:12 am EST

Apparently you haven't noticed his poll numbers lately. That hope and change is not what everybody thought it was!!

NRay

December 13, 2009 - 9:57 am EST

Wait a second. You want a senator who will vote to lower taxes, and one who also will support "win[ning] the war". Isn't the war effort paid for with tax money? Didn't we have a quite large deficit (largely to pay for our wars) before any of us had so much as heard of Barack Obama? I am really curious. How do you propose we pay for the war you support while cutting taxes?

opec

December 13, 2009 - 12:39 pm EST

The deficit has been growing every term, every year for about the past 50+ years. And about the war, at least it's keep you from getting YOUR head cut off. But then again, you'd probably convert to Islam and accept Sharia Law; wouldn't you? I'm really getting sick of you people that worship obama, and are too ignorant and unwilling to see the truth for what it is. Y'all are so naive and blind. Think he's REALLY going to save this world? What HAS he done for the "gays", or the blacks? NOTHING! What has he done for the soldiers, sailors, and airmen that give their lives, bodies, and minds to protect YOU and the defenseless around the world? Certainly not a hell of a lot, if anything. So far, these masterminds running this country right now have done nothing but hurt this country. Trust me, at this rate, the blacks in the ghettos are going to stay there. Since when has ANY welfare program "liberated" anyone? Welfare, when done correctly is a good thing. But, as it stands now, and the way obama and his want to do it, is trading metal chains for financial chains; those people are going to remain in bondage. Jobs, what jobs? The only jobs being "created" are being created in foreign countries. I hope y'all start using your heads for something besides a hat rack.

NRay

December 13, 2009 - 1:07 pm EST

I only asked how a supporter of the war proposed paying for the war, when that supporter is at the same time calling for tax decreases. I know you have strong feelings on the matters you cited, but what about paying for the concern of yours in Afghanistan? Is a tax decrease consistent with that, or is the Afghan war something you don't mind being taxed for? That is my question, for any of you.

opec

December 14, 2009 - 11:57 am EST

Yes, it is consistent. Only when you have a government that will commit to responsible spending. In the Omnibus Bill that just passed, there were a bunch of "earmarks" that were just plain, totally ridicules. Earmarks that are wasteful and more of a payback for some deal. Government is spending uncontrollably for the most outrageous things in a time of economic uncertainty, and the money just isn't there; like my analogy of check writing. Even a poor man can do many things if he is financially responsible; which our government isn't. If they quit spending in areas that they don't need to, then that makes funds available in other areas. Even in the so-called entitlement programs. I hope I have answered your question, in a calm and rational manner.

lilbean

December 13, 2009 - 10:04 am EST

with the dems poised to raise the debt ceiling ANOTHER trillion dollars, and obama exposing who he truly is, i think its really gonna suck to be a democrat for quite sometime. lest we forget americans have a "short attention span".all is obamas and the democrats now, all.

hgals01

December 13, 2009 - 10:37 am EST

Nray- you did not answer the question on how we are going to get thousands of private sector jobs back here in Greensboro and the Triad? You complain about Wall Street? Almost everyone has a IRA or 401k, so Wall Street really matters. Where are home construction, and banking jobs. We have to make the perfect climate for the private sector for them to create jobs. There are many people out there that the top spike of oil caused the recession. On the wars after 911 everyone in Washington was standing on the capital 100% behind bush for striking Iraq and Afghanistan. You can't talk out both sides of your mouth. I wish we had more great leaders with courage like George Bush, he did not dither. Tony Blair of UK said yesterday he would of taken out Saddam Hussein. Do you know lives we saved in Iraq for people of that country. Now the people if Iraq have a chance.

NRay

December 13, 2009 - 1:26 pm EST

I wonder whether you have ever spoken to an Iraqi citizen regarding the "chance" they now have, as you put it? The Iraqis I know are not much enamored of their chances now. Unanimously, they wish we would leave this afternoon and let them sort their affairs out.

Yes, we were united to go get Al Quaida, but we thought that was just what we were doing. It did not work out that way, and here we are eight years later, with AQ not only alive and well, but resurgent in south Asia.

Regarding the Vampire Capitalism I cited, a couple of things. Yes I am a little resentful that it's socialism for the big boys and capitalism for me and you. I do not like that they were allowed to gamble to such an extent that our entire financial system was (and still is) threatened with ruin. I certainly would have helped these miscreants out, because we had no choice. If Presidents Bush and now Obama had not leapt to their aid, you and I would now probably be selling pencils to each other.

opec

December 13, 2009 - 12:17 pm EST

Yep, just what we need. More taxing, big government, baby killing (abortion) politians.

NRay

December 13, 2009 - 1:14 pm EST

But doesn't it take a rather big government to reach around the world to oppose those in Radical Islam who are threatening us? A small, emasculated federal government could not oppose any substantial threats to us. If I understand you, you are in favor of the sort of large, government run program necessary to keep us from being subjected to Sharia law. Therefore, isn't the question not whether we should support big government, but where big government should stop?

opec

December 13, 2009 - 7:52 pm EST

NRay, if you had a brain you'd probably wipe with it. But, since I'm sure you don't do that, then I'm sure you haven't one. Why don't you just admit it? That you're one of those welfare soakin', ACORN horin' uber-liberal leftist. The reason I say this is, just like them, you have nothing to discus on any issue. All you do is question every question and answer nothing. All you want to do is argue about nothing. Now I have a question for you. How long have you been having conversations with yourself? EOM

opec

December 13, 2009 - 7:55 pm EST

Also, you need to learn how to write. It wasn't a giant nation that did the Towers. But I guess I have to assume in you world, they still stand and 9/11 necer happened. Get a life twit.

NRay

December 13, 2009 - 9:27 pm EST

Well, goodness, I was trying to have one with you. But rather than using this forum for discussion, you prefer to run about the string insulting those who disagree with you. And here I was, saying nothing bad about anyone, and only questioning propositions that you seem to blindly accept. You might have been able to convince me, or someone else of the correctness of your positions, if you would discuss and stop denigrating.

opec

December 13, 2009 - 11:23 pm EST

In a discussion, you don't incessantly say, "why". I don't try to "convince" anyone of anything. But I do try to get people to think for themselves as opposed to blindly following. Not just what trips their trigger, but fully think things through to an outcome. So then, here we go, and I hope you understand what it is that I try to get across. War is expensive, both in material and lives. War is a necessary evil; sadly. You said that a small country can't hurt us, or our people. Well, it was just a handful of people that killed approx. 3,000 people on 9/11. Wow, that's just a drop in the bucket if they got hold of a nuke, or a nasty bio-weapon. And don't be so naive to think they can't get it; Iran, North Korea. It doesn't need to be an ICBM. As a matter of fact, they prefer the suitcase. Taxes. obama and his henchmen want to raise taxes like Oprah, through the roof. That is to pay for their outlandish spending. What about the Republicans? Yep, they do it, too. obama wants to socialize everything trying to make everyone believe that it will be free. Just like cap and trade. Whatever the energy suppliers and other industries have to pay for this, it WILL be passed on to the consumer. That's concerning everything. Do people like the idea of paying $5-10.00 for a loaf of bread? Don't scoff at that, it is going to happen, and that's on the low side. All these so-called promises obama made were straight-out lies, and that is starting to show itself. The economy. That's a farce also. The only people that are saying the recession is over, is obama and those that work for him. What he is doing is the same thing as you writing check, after check, after check with no money in the bank, and no income (job). Sooner or later, the bank is going to want their money for those checks. And if you don't have the money, well you know. China, Russia, and a few other countries more or less own America. And obama isn't making anything better by printing fiat money and begging these countries to give an even bigger loan. Bank give money, you buy house, you no pay back, bank put you and yours on street. That's just for a few thousand dollars. Our debt is in the trillions. I watch the market and commodities everyday. And while they go up and down, as usual, the outlook is bleak. Here is some kindness; start squirreling food away. And water also. Buy some gold and silver, save some cash (under your mattress, not just in the bank). And learn how to protect yourself. Please understand that I do care about people, and that is why it gets frustrating at times. There are some seriously nasty times coming, and don't think government is going to fix it. I do want to apologize for my belligerence, but I get that way sometimes.

justified

December 13, 2009 - 12:23 pm EST

I have a guestion for Cal and Kenneth . Do you have any ties to the tallyband or ACLU ????

Danyang Peng

December 13, 2009 - 9:53 pm EST

Why do you insist on ignoring the Libertarian candidate, Dr. Mike Beitler? The Libertarian Party has ballot access in NC. Beitler has already announced his candidacy in September. He has support from not only Libertarians, but from Dems and Republicans alike. People have had enough of the two-party system and the media that supports it.

NRay

December 14, 2009 - 7:50 am EST

This string began with comments regarding lowering taxes, the efficacy of bailouts and "radical liberalism". I hear people talking about such ideas every day, and most of what I hear strikes me as the product of unexamined belief. So I took the bait and started asking questions about what a person means when he says someone is a "radical liberal". I asked how you fight a war for going on 9 years without big government and big taxes. I really want to know these things. They are not self-evident to me.

Aside from the gratuitous insults directed at me (which I expected) the discussion was helpful. I learned from those who responded that their view of our future is quite dark. End days appear to be near, according to one, and we had best prepare. But that scary responder raised another question in my mind. Perhaps he can help me again. That question is, how do we prepare for the apocalypse and fight wars without being organised? Wouldn't we be better off getting organised for the nasty days ahead than each going it alone? Maybe if we were properly organised we could avoid altogether the end days. For example, if we had a national industrial policy, the Chinese (communists, I remind you) would not be so on their way to owning us. If our government were more efficient, we might have a better chance of intercepting the next horrific attack on our country.

You may hate the idea of government, but I see no other form of organisation capable of standing up for little people like me. Without your government looking after the big things, you will be victimised at every turn in the road by those more powerful than you are. And there will always be someone with more power than you have, no matter how much money you squirrel away or how proficient you may be with firearms.

Without government, the individual will soon be ground down to a subsistence level of life. Without a strong, central government, there would be no middle class. You might say that power is a form of energy. It never disappears. It's always exercised by someone or some organisation. If you are able to clip back the federal government as much as some Americans seem to wish they could, do you really believe that you are each so capable that you can go it alone against those who are stronger than you are? I think you would quickly find that you would have to organise with your neighbors to survive. You would soon have little health care (ever been to Africa?), no professional policing (have you ever lived in Mexico?) and your kids might receive 6 or 8 years of education. You might say that government is nothing more than a very large neighborhood organisation which is there to most efficiently nourish civilisation.

I won't even ask how you would address global climate change without government. But, I am listening.

opec

December 14, 2009 - 12:16 pm EST

Address climate "change"? That's simple. If people, including industry and governments, would just be self-responsible things would improve. Climate has been changing for the past 6,000 years; like the ebb and flow of the tide. It simply being a good steward of our planet. If people would look at it like it's their house and property then they would probably work to take better care of this world. Do people need government to tell them to make the bed, or wash the dishes? Although government tries too, they screw everything up because they haven't the right spirit to make such calls; they're in it for the power and the buck. The resent news is proof of that. Just a question. Are you a student, or an (for lack of a better descriptive) adult? Erroneously I assume that everyone in these comments are adults.

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