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Iraqi refugee says, 'We want to go back’

Sunday, December 6, 2009
(Updated 7:41 am)

GREENSBORO — Having sold her food stamps to pay the  water and electric bill, uncertain of how to make December’s rent or feed her disabled husband and three children,  Sahar al-Janabi, 38, had one request.

“We want to go back to Iraq,” she said last week on a cold evening in the family’s apartment at  Hunters Glen near U.S. 29 and East Cone Boulevard. “Can you find someone who will help us get back?”

Escaping war in their native Baghdad and fleeing to Jordan, the family gained political refugee status and got to Greensboro in July, among  63 Iraqis resettled here in the past year by Lutheran Family Services.

Although al-Janabi’s husband would have been a target of Shiite death squads for having worked on a local government project as a computer trainer and later for American contractors, the family is losing hope about their resettlement.

“Anyone who worked for American companies will be killed. But still the situation there is better than here,” said husband  Nasih al-Janabi, 36, who walks with a cane and so far has found work  for only one week, delivering pizzas. “We don’t have enough food. We live in a place with drugs and criminals. We love America, but the picture we had is the exact opposite of what we found.”

With winter closing in and the refugee influx again on the rise, longtime advocates are voicing concern about the lack of follow-up service, funding and jobs for the newly arrived refugees.

“There is a crisis in the refugee services in this city which has magnified over the past year,” said  Sister Gretchen Reintjes, a longtime missionary for refugees here, who says it is  business as usual in delivery of services.

In a report last weekend, Greensboro Urban Ministry confirmed that a Burmese man was the first refugee to seek emergency shelter at the Weaver House.

A spokeswoman for the resettlement agency that sponsored him in 2007, Lutheran Family Services of the Carolinas, said this week that the agency in fact continues to offer services for five years after a refugee resettles.

But these are immigration and pre-employment services, cautioned  Martha Ransley, a veteran church sponsor at Holy Trinity Episcopal Church. Basic assistance such as rent only lasts for the first three months.

“These Iraqis are already nearing their three months,” said Ransley, who has worked with refugees since 2001. “They’re desperate. I see trouble coming.”

For example,  Kamal Yousuf, 29, and his two brothers live in a $475 below-ground unit at Hunters Glen, with no idea of how they will pay December’s rent, and no prospects or work, having applied at McDonald’s and the dollar store.

Last week, their unit was completely without heat, as were several neighbors’ units.

Assistant property manager  Sharon Pate said the complex was fixing each complaint as it came in, and that as of Saturday, a maintenance man was working on his day off to restore units that needed repair.

The complex, where Lutheran Family Services settled a number of clients last summer, is owned by  Shannon Enterprises and managed by  Alliance Management.

At Greensboro Housing Coalition, counselors put Hunters Glen on a “not recommended” list because of  lengthy code violations, said director  Beth McKee-Huger.

She expressed frustration that refugees, already traumatized, wind up in dangerous neighborhoods.

“It’s important for them to have people close by they can relate to,” McKee-Huger said. “But the reason there are a lot of vacancies is that the property is not where anybody else wants to live.”

Meanwhile, at the al-Janabi apartment, they  fretted over the first bill they received in the U.S. — for $5,454.

“Welcome to America!” it said. “You will recall that before your departure from overseas, you agreed to repay the transportation expenses incurred by you and your family in coming to the United States. ...”

Contact Lorraine Ahearn at 373-7334 or lorraine.ahearn@news-record.com

Accompanying Photos

Wesley Beeson

Photo Caption: Resettled refugees Retaj, 7 (from left),  Baker, 5, and  Farah, 10, came here from Iraq with their parents, who did not want to give their last name. The family lives at Hunters Glen Apartments. 

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buldawg

December 6, 2009 - 11:03 am EST

There is so much wrong in this story. The most glaring problem is this woman admitting to a reporter that she has committed fraud on the US government. It is illegal to sell food stamps...period! I hope the appropriate authorities will investigate and prosecute. She says she and her family want to return to Iraq...go then and stop whining at my tax expense. I am a taxpaying retired military member and don't really care to have my hard earned tax dollars paying for your food stamps and rent while other Americans lay dead in your country and many Americans are sleeping outside as we speak. Any of these homeless Americans would love to be living in the "horrible" conditions you are experiencing at our taxpayer expense. The families of our Gulf War casualties would love to visit their loved ones once again even if they were living in your conditions, at least they would be living. Get out, leave, go back to the "wonderful" world you remember in Iraq. Or stay here, stop whining and become a productive member of my country. Contribute and earn your own way.

Get Real

December 6, 2009 - 1:04 pm EST

I totally disagree with this comment. I can't believe people like you exist.

buldawg

December 6, 2009 - 6:47 pm EST

Get real??? I can't believe an idiot like you knows how to turn on your computer.

Get Real

December 7, 2009 - 5:08 am EST

You better believe it, old man.

kurgun

December 7, 2009 - 1:04 am EST

I have to agree with Bulldawg, because he makes very good points. If they don't like it here then they have the option to leave. I only feel sorry they are dragging their kids through the mess.

nicelady58

December 7, 2009 - 2:54 am EST

AMEN........I agree, this politically correct crap is ruining this country! My 2 sons have had 2 tours each in Iraq and then here comes this family whining....go home and start fighting for your own country.....

....

December 7, 2009 - 4:05 am EST

Iraqi citizens probably say the same about your sons.

nicelady58

December 7, 2009 - 2:59 am EST

buldawg..I agree....

nanaof8

December 6, 2009 - 11:16 am EST

First of all, isn't selling food stamps illegal??? Second,if you are coming to this country sponsered by an organization then THEY should take care of you not the government of North Carolina or the United States. We have enough people here already to take care of..If they want to go back SEND THEM BACK!! We don't need them. No I have no sympathy for people who come here and then cry about the way our country is....If you don't like it transportation goes the other way GOODBYE....
I also completely agree with the previous post it just wasn't up when I posted.

theravada

December 6, 2009 - 12:09 pm EST

Terrible that they would have to move to Greensboro of all places.

Shame on Lutheran Family Services for their irresponsibility in bringing these refugees here and then abandoning them.

capricorn7nc

December 6, 2009 - 12:33 pm EST

I agree that it may be illegal to sell the food stamps, but what do you expect her to do. They helped American businesses meaning we should help them out. Her husband was cooperative to the effort of making other Iraqis rebuild their country. People who have never been in the situation they are in are forming opinions about something they can not relate to. How many of you hypercritical people have ever been on food stamps? Been unemployed? Been faced with bills you could not pay? I can not stand people who can not relate to impoverished people talk about them like they can relate when they can not. I have had food stamps, and I did not sell them, but if I had to to pay my light or water bill it would have been done. You do what you have to to survive or you will end up sleeping at Urban Ministry. Sorry, but America is not perfect, and everyone is not able to pay their bills. They were forced from their home. Just imagine being uprooted with no money, no job, no prospects, then form an opinion.

nanaof8

December 6, 2009 - 3:13 pm EST

capricorn7- before you condemn those of us who post let me tell you a few things...first,yes i have been on food stamps and have had trouble paying my bills. Many years ago,my husband (who was injured in the military) had a couple of heart attacks and strokes in a very short period of time. Social Security(which he paid into for many years) didn't want to help and we had a small child to take care of. So I worked full time as a bookkeeper and my husband stayed at home(losing all self esteem because he had no way to take care of his family) but through all of this,we never sold food stamps we used them to feed ourselves. Also, we never condemned the country for what our situation was...These people chose to come to this country so now they have to either do something productive (if he's so good with computers??) or else quit complaining and go home if that's what they think is best. I do feel for the children because they never had a choice of anything. No they should not have to live in substandard housing-NO ONE SHOULD- Still selling food stamps is a crime and if it was an American doing it,they would be prosecuted!!

capricorn7nc

December 6, 2009 - 3:56 pm EST

Those people did not have a choice. The article stated they were targeted by the insurgents. They had no choice, but to leave. That is crazy to tell them to stay somewhere where they knew it was a high likelihood they could get killed. That is how they got political refugee status.

nanaof8

December 6, 2009 - 4:50 pm EST

okay so they HAD to come. Then either the Luthern Ministry people should continue to take care of them. It should still not fall back on the local government of this country. We went where we shouldn't have gone and now we are being forced to take care of those who have sought refuge. So there is a high likelihood they would be killed. They should have known that when they chose to help the USA. Besides,they are still BREAKING THE LAW by selling food stamps for money. If I did that I would wind of in legal trouble and possibly put in jail but all you seem to think it's okay for them just because they were brought here from another country. How about they come and live with you? Since you have so much compassion for them you take care of them. I would be happy to help the children,but again, I have NO sympathy for the parents=get a job like the rest of us. How can they get help through social services when so many US citizens can't get it?? Something is terribly wrong with all of this. Maybe there should be a large farm where all refugees who can't work and take care of themselves can live together, farm-raise their own food and take care of themselves. Please take care of our own FIRST!!

capricorn7nc

December 6, 2009 - 5:36 pm EST

If I had the funds to take care of them I would. I did not say that taking care of them is inexpensive. I am saying that we provided refuge knowing they did not have a job when they came here, and could not support themselves. I agree we went to a country that never attacked, nor did we have a real reason to go there, but we gave them the option to come here. It was not the other way around. I agreed with you that they were breaking the law, but plenty of people break that same law to make ends meet. It is not anything new, and obviously not, because they found out they could do it from someone. They didn't just come up with it out of thin air. You are saying get a job like there are not plenty of people in the area already trying to get a job, so you are beating a dead horse when you say that. Our unemployment rate is higher than the national average, so telling them to do something, again that is stated in the article, is not fixing the problem. In the article, they have been looking for work and can not find a job just like the many in Greensboro that can not find a job. Our economy sucks largely due to greed by banks and both of these unwarranted wars. It is not their fault that they got sent to an area that did not have jobs for them to have, nor is it fair to expect them not knowing really where they are to support themselves without any help.

buldawg

December 6, 2009 - 6:57 pm EST

We all have choices. I'm sure many other American friendly Iraqis would love to take these folks place but have been unable to. In fact our country is made up of immigrants. Most are great people who work hard to realize the American dream. We all know people from many different countries who are very productive and contribute greatly to making America the best place to live in the world. I salute and admire those folks. The woman in this story however doesn't present herself or her husband in that light. She is simply complaining about not receiving enough handouts to get by. She said she wants to return to Iraq so obviously neither she nor her husband are that afraid of being targeted by death squads. Since she has expressed the desire to return, let her. This is her stated desire. This is her choice. Bev Predue just announced that our social services budget is over budget. This woman's actions simply exacerbate that problem.

Dogwood

December 6, 2009 - 1:05 pm EST

I honestly have no clue where to start. Lorraine set up a family for fraud by stating the family is selling Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (October Federal law 2008) EBT pin.
Islamic Center of Greensboro, 2023 16th Street 27405 is within walking distance even with a cane for open 5 prayer a day Mosque prayers and community. Three children may be at the new-comers school. Breakfast, lunch and bus ride served free. It is a long trip, over two hours back and forth. Hunter's Glen is next door to Walmart. The father, educated due to Sunni relatives, fled to Jordan and claimed the Shites were killing him and he, as a computer wiz did whatever to claim asylum. Mercy. Call the Iraqi embassy and ask for repatriation. This family was not born in a barn and were from the elite class of society. Employment is a problem. Millions have no jobs and mercy is all I can say.

blackstream

December 6, 2009 - 2:17 pm EST

While those of you who make known your opinion about really not wanting the family here, you seem to miss a very sad point made by all of this. When a family would rather face the possibilty of being killed in their own country then have to suffer from the lack of an income, that doesn't speak very well of the "land of plenty" the world has come to know us by. Someone commented we have our own people going without. It's about time Americans start admitting we have a poverty problem in this country. We're asked daily to help feed those in other parts of the world, but yet you don't see nationwide commercials asking to feed Americans. How can we feed the world when we can't even feed one country.... our own?

mohair.sam

December 6, 2009 - 8:03 pm EST

Blackstream: There *are* many programs feeding hungry Americans, including the very large Second Harvest, a nationwide program. Countless local ones, as well. As for "admitting" there is poverty in America, we have been addressing that for years -- problem is, the government programs meant to help people in poverty actually encourage them to be dependent upon the government, thereby further breeding the very problems that keep jobs out of poor communities (high rates of crime, etc.).
As for this problem of refugees dumped on communities by refugee organizations, that, too, is a nationwide problem. Why LFS and others would do this in the midst of a recession where American citizens are struggling to survive is anybody's guess. Shiites and Sunnis have been killing each other all throughout the Middle East for centuries. They will continue to do so. If these folks want to go back and face that, by all means, let them go. Having said that, it is ridiculous to charge people who have nothing with the expense of getting over here.

blackstream

December 6, 2009 - 2:19 pm EST

I also find it irresponsible of the News & Record to give such detail about where the family lives. For those who seem to carry hatred toward these people, this is an open invitation for trouble.

John Robinson

December 6, 2009 - 2:36 pm EST

We identified the complex where they live for three reasons. First, we not aware of any specific physical threat. Second, it's a large place and isn't easy to find an individual specific unless you know specifically which unit they live in. Third, one of the problems the immigrants have is living in a place that isn't maintained. We believe that is reason enough to publish the name of the complex.

John Robinson, editor

Dogwood

December 6, 2009 - 4:17 pm EST

"Hatred" of "these people" is your attitude. Commenters never used the word "hate". Lorraine made a big mistake and this is why some question her work.

Doug Johnson

December 6, 2009 - 2:27 pm EST

I am with you bulldawg, I want to take care of Americans first.
Most of us know many families that could use help.
Have you ever notice how Adhern is always for illegals are refugees?
They fit her agenda, vote straight democrat.
I wonder how these folks got food stamps in the first place.
Land of plenty my ass. we have a 10% unemployment rate!

blackstream

December 6, 2009 - 4:20 pm EST

You know this, I know this. Apparently there are those who don't know, or care, what the unemployment rate is. In my area, it's a bit higher then 10%. Last check, it was over 11%. As for the land of plenty comment, I'm just stating what they've tried to convince us for decades. And was probably very true up until about the last decade. The only ones we can blame for our lack of jobs is ourselves. We allowed our leaders to make it possible for companies to send jobs outside the U.S., we allow retailers to sell goods from countries like China to Americans because they're so much cheaper, and we ourselves went to places like Wal-Mart and bought those goods. I use to work for a textile company that their battle cry was to buy American. Now, that company has two plants outside the U.S.

beedev

December 6, 2009 - 3:15 pm EST

Why doesn't Lutheran Family Services just STOP this. If there aren't jobs and adequate public assistance for those already here DON'T bring in more. Stop it.....please STOP.

swerdna

December 6, 2009 - 3:21 pm EST

This is just another case recently brought to light regarding refugees brought here by Lutheran Family Services and abandoned. (See http://www.news-record.com/content/2009/11/27/article/first_a_refugee_no...). To them I must say that bringing these people here is just a start. YOU need to be responsible for them AFTER you bring them here also. By not doing so, you have taken them from one bad situation and placed them in another, made worse because they have no family for support. Either do the job the way it should be done or don't do it at all!

friend07

December 6, 2009 - 4:39 pm EST

Wow! I read the story and felt empathy towards the family. A disabled husband/father, mother, and three beautiful children, uprooted from their war-torn country that we invaded, helped us to rebuild it and then came to our country, the United States of America, to escape Shiite death squads.

The husband looks for work, accepting a job delivering pizzas while requiring a cane to walk. They live among criminals and drugs, have no heat at times, worry about their next meal, and try to pay their bills. It sounds like their living conditions are worse than Iraq. Meanwhile other refugees in similar situations are forced to seek emergency shelter.

Then I read the comments. No empathy, just judgments. Instead of receiving the helping hand that others give to those in the national stories, this family is admonished for trying to pay their bills, feed their children, and find work. With unemployment around 10% in this country, many are finding it hard to get a job, even with college educations. I suspect an Iraqi family new to our country may find it a little harder than others to get a job, regardless of their resume.

I like to believe that we lend a helping hand to our neighbors, to those less fortunate than us, regardless of their ethnic background. As some of the comments to this article indicate, fortune can turn on any of us and we can find ourselves in need of help at any time.

The issue isn’t who is a veteran (I am a veteran). The issue isn’t who has had hard times (I grew up in a large city and had my share of troubles). The issue isn’t who hasn’t had significant medical issues in their family (yup – I’m typical – my family also). The issue isn’t where the family is from. The issue is a family trying to survive finding themselves in unacceptable conditions inside our country. And the issue to me is the response they received – get out, we don’t want you here. This response, and the propose solution, will not fix the problem. Hunters Glen still will be plagued with drugs and crime. The family may or may not survive. The issue is a family uprooted from their country, suffering extraordinary circumstances to live, trying to become self-sufficient, and getting this kind of response from the community.

The anger in the comments amazes me.

nanaof8

December 6, 2009 - 5:13 pm EST

Yes I have sympathy for their situation. It is horrible. But again, one more time--what they did is .ILLEGAL!! Are we just supposed to ignore that fact?? Why were they brought here and basically abandoned by the Luthern Ministry Services? I didn't say just send them back, they said they WANT to go back...so be it. I also have sympathy for the milliions of people from this country that have no warm place to sleep, food to eat etc. I do what I can, donating to charities that supposedly help those people,but it just keeps getting worse. The city should condemn these placesor,fine the owners and make them make things right. Until slumlords are held accountable these substandard places will never change. The mant. guy working on Saturday boo hoo it should never have gotten that bad then he wouldn' t have had to. That would be a solution, make the apts. pay the tenants to fix the apartments No I don't have the answers and I DO wish their situations were better,but I also wish the friends of mine that have lost their jobs and are fixing to lose their homes weren't facing these problems either. If you don't agree with me,luckily you have that right so post on.....

mohair.sam

December 6, 2009 - 8:10 pm EST

Your misguided sympathies amaze me, "Friend." We do help our neighbors -- in fact, no one gives more from their own pockets to people all over the world than Americans do (and that's not counting official government aid).

As for these Sunnis .,.. They had no problem living high on the hog when Saddam was in power, when Sunnis were favored and Shi'ites routinely oppressed--that is, tortured and murdered for no reason. I'm not saying they were involved; I am saying that Shi'ite death units are no different in kind from their Sunni counterparts (which still also roam the country).

If you want to help them, then help them. No one is stopping you. Many of the rest of us are tapped out (or worse) from helping other people, predominantly our own citizens, who are losing their homes, have lost their homes, can't feed their families, all of that.

None of this justifies breaking our laws. It amazes me that people like you bend over backwards to justify illegal behavior so long as it's done by immigrants to our country; if we immigrated to their country and did the same, we would be punished to the full extent of much harsher laws, and not one bleeding heart would shed a tear for us.

swerdna

December 6, 2009 - 9:56 pm EST

The issue is Lutheran Family Services brought these people here and basically dumped them. The issue is, if an organization brings people over here, that organization should support them and assist them until they can live on their own and their situation is stable. To fail to do so does a disservice to these people.

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