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Don’t ignore this chance for health care rewrite

Saturday, November 28, 2009
(Updated 3:00 am)

Recently, a bipartisan majority of the House of Representatives made history by passing strong health reform legislation. On Nov. 21, the Senate continued that progress by voting to begin debate on its version of the bill.

Both bills crack down on insurance companies’ worst practices,  including stopping them from denying coverage based on pre-existing conditions, prohibiting dropping coverage when you get sick and ending discrimination based on gender.

After nearly a century of false starts, this is the furthest we’ve ever come to enacting real health insurance reform. These are historic accomplishments. I am hopeful that politics as usual will not destroy the opportunity at real change in health care.

Lakeahia Bradby
High Point

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ravencottage

November 28, 2009 - 6:18 am EST

"... a bipartisan majority..." This made me laugh so hard my orange juice went up my nose.

xeno10

November 28, 2009 - 6:40 am EST

Lakeahia, you're basically "on target!" Applause! Sincerely.

mikec

November 28, 2009 - 7:15 am EST

Left or right, if the House version of the healthcare bill passes, why is it going to cost more me to have healthcare insurance than I'm currently paying? That doesn't seem like reform to me.

Mike

Yvonne

November 28, 2009 - 8:30 am EST

Why is your health care going to cost you more, mike?

ghost from white oak

November 28, 2009 - 9:13 am EST

The same reason most people's health care will cost more.
" Free" is not really free for all. Someone has to pay for this legislation forced on the people who don't want it .
As I have said before, MOST Americans will pay MORE for their health care if what is now being proposed in Washington passes. Higher premiums, hidden cost, taxes and fees will pay for it, not any cost savings brought about by this so called reform.

danagain

November 28, 2009 - 9:14 am EST

Do you honestly believe the govt. is going to reduce the debt with this proposal Yvonne? Seriously?

You may want to look at MA as an example. Everyone was mandated to get health care or a $900 fine per person is imposed on those who don't pay. Many people opted to pay the $900 fine and only bought a policy when they needed medical care and then dumped the policy. Those who played by the rules and kept their policies active saw premium increases to make up for the losses of those gaming the system.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124726287099225209.html

Yvonne

November 28, 2009 - 9:41 am EST

No, Dan, I believe the government is not going to reduce the debt with any proposal. I never said it was. What I asked Mike, since he specifically said HIS health care was going up, why it would. If he has insurance, he has already been paying for the uninsured with increases in his premiums. So, why would you or he automatically assume anything?

danagain

November 28, 2009 - 10:45 am EST

"No, Dan, I believe the government is not going to reduce the debt with any proposal. I never said it was."

Good, at least you aren't buying into that lie because that's what they are selling. What is it.....$130 billion in savings over 10 years?

Did you read what happened in MA? A harbinger of things to come. Off to see little brother now, have a good one.

JGALT

November 28, 2009 - 11:00 am EST

So the government is going to collect taxes for 4 years to pay for this healthcare, at least as far as the directive to CBO was set up, to show the plan was deficit neutral. And they shuffled $250 Billion direct to deficit so as not to screw up this rosy scenario. Into what lock box are these taxes going? Do you think they may be going into the same black hole that social security taxes went and medicare premiums went? What do people think will be there when they role out the benefits?

bubba

November 28, 2009 - 10:15 am EST

Get help for your attention deficit disorder, Yvonne. Or is your problem one of reading comprehension?

Whether you like it or not, health care costs will skyrocket under the "reform" currently being proposed.

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/12/insurance-industry-fights-back-wit...
http://www.businessword.com/index.php?/weblog/comments/2889/
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/reform_at_your_expen...

Yvonne

November 28, 2009 - 3:15 pm EST

My point, which you apparently missed bubba, is premiums go up anyway and have for for years WITHOUT this proposal. Every year my premiums have gone up $75-100/month and even though I select the best option, benefits continue to dwindle. I have had BCBS for a long time. So I guess I should have asked Mike why he thought his insurance would go up ANY MORE than it already does.

danagain

November 28, 2009 - 4:28 pm EST

Look into an HSA Yvonne, I dumped BCBSNC this year because the HSA is much less. Plus I get a tax deduction for the contributions to the account.

rightwingnemesis

November 28, 2009 - 4:51 pm EST

Mr. danagain, as long as you are healthy, that HSA will suit you to a tee--trouble will come when you have those "Pre-existing conditions" and need to move over into another plan. It is nothing more than delaying the inevitable, but my guess is you will come around to where the majority of Americans are pretty soon--demanding that we fix the broken system. Your colleagues in the GOP are doing their darndest to protect BCBSNC and others who love that near monopoly--can't wait to watch you evolve on this one. Hope it does not have to include a tragic childhood illness or the like for you to drop the Hannity/Rush talking points.

danagain

November 28, 2009 - 5:24 pm EST

"...-trouble will come when you have those "Pre-existing conditions" and need to move over into another plan."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/03/boehners-health-care-bill_n_343...

Everyone agrees this is a problem.

rightwingnemesis

November 30, 2009 - 8:12 am EST

Oh no Mr. danagain. No mulligans for you today. Remember you didn't do the HSA because you couldn't afford the premium, but rather because it made sense financially! LOL! Taking the ignorant stand that you do against Healthcare reform and then admitting that you couldn't afford healthcare is verying telling. Oh that's right, you just put it on the hospital's credit card and think that doesn't count as a hand out. Sir, your depth of understanding is even lower than your ability to understand economics. Admit that your rhetoric and your own personal experiences don't match up. You, are a hypocrite in addition to not being very bright.
Now that you are exposed and fittingly embarrassed, I hope you will start trying to put your own house in order before arguing for the group you could only wish to be a part of. Are you ready to negotiate with the hospital for your next emergency or will you admit you don't have a clue about what you speak of?

bubba

November 28, 2009 - 8:48 pm EST

They will go up EVEN MORE under health care reform, which is the point expressed in at least one of the links provided.

Do you not even attempt to understand WHY they will continue to go up without "reform" being enacted?

TomShuford

November 28, 2009 - 9:57 am EST

Peter Schiff is an economist (now running for the Senate in Connecticut) who vaulted to prominence in the past couple of years after relentlessly ridiculing housing market boosters on business channels during the giddy years before the housing market collapse. A collection of the Schiff clips skewering his hapless opponents has 1.6 million hits on youtube:

Peter Schiff vs. Assorted Wall Street "Gurus"
(ten minutes of video clips from 2006-2007):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I0QN-FYkpw

Here is Schiff in a video produced a couple of weeks ago on the Senate's healthcare reform bill. In a nutshell forcing insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions coupled with low penalies for NOT buying healthcare incentivizes healthy people to wait until they get sick to get coverage. This will quickly bankrupt insurance companies AND any "goverment option." This will mean a genuine government monopoly "socialized" healthcare system:

Peter Schiff: Healthcare Reform = Socialized Medicine
(November 19, 2009, 10 minute video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfGjqmG47cU

bubba

November 28, 2009 - 8:47 pm EST

Here's more detail on the use of smoke and mirrors to hide the true costs in the Reid Senate bill:

http://www.politico.com/arena/perm/Michael_F__Cannon_7685B271-D21F-44A4-...

bubba

November 28, 2009 - 10:30 am EST

Micheal Barone, on the political agenda at work in support of health care "reform":

"Yet the congressional Democrats who are pressing to expand federal health care spending do not seem much fazed by the prospect that, as Winship writes, "the level of taxation it would require to meet projected spending needs is far higher than anything the country has ever seen-slash-tolerated."

That suggests that, at least for some Democrats, huge looming budget deficits are not a bug but a feature. Just as Ronald Reagan hoped that cutting taxes would force politicians to cut spending, these Democrats hope that increasing spending will force politicians to increase taxes to levels common in Western Europe. Never mind that those economies have proved more sluggish and less creative than ours over the long haul."

http://www.aei.org/article/101353

bubba

November 28, 2009 - 10:44 am EST

Here are some other problems the health care "reform" cheerleaders don't like to talk about:

Where will we find the medical staff to handle more patients?

"A comprehensive strategy for growing the physician workforce – as well as other allied health professionals such as nurses and physicians' assistants – should be developed and supported with a federal investment at the same time health insurance is expanded to cover millions of additional people.

Without this, gaining access to prompt medical care for all patients will become even more difficult. There will be longer wait times for appointments, less face time with a physician and, in all likelihood, delayed diagnoses leading to more expensive treatment and increased risk of complications. One need only look at the experience of Massachusetts, where the adoption of universal health coverage has intensified the physician shortage."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870443180457453990162510268...

Favored Dem/Lefty/"Progressive" affinity groups will get rewarded for their loyalty under "reform":

"Despite representing only about 7.6 percent of private sector employees, unions are poised to gain significant privileges, authority and financial windfalls from health care reform. Coming at the expense of tax-paying patients and businesses, these specific benefits would do little or nothing to improve our health care system, says Kevin Troutman, chairman of the Healthcare Practice Group of Fisher & Phillips LLP."

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=18692

The Pelosi Care version of the bill is neither safe nor effective:

"•This product will reduce the quality of your health care. America's health care sector is often inconvenient, poorly coordinated, and makes less use of information technology than your local supermarket. Research shows that medical errors kill as many as 100,000 Americans per year.

Markets would solve those problems, but government thwarts doctors and entrepreneurs who try to improve quality. Medicare – by far the largest purchaser of medical services in the world – actually penalizes doctors and hospitals that reduce medical errors.

The House bill would cement those deficiencies in place with yet another massive government program, and create new quality problems, like insurers skimping on care and customer service for the sickest patients.

•This product probably won't make you healthier. The House bill would expand coverage, but at a steep cost and with zero evidence that doing so is a cost-effective way of improving health.

Little research supports the notion that broadly expanding insurance coverage makes people healthier. Medicare established near-universal coverage for the elderly, yet research shows that program didn't save a single life in its first 10 years of operation. Whether it has had any subsequent impact on mortality rates – positive or negative – remains an open question."

http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/health-219257-bill-product.html

The list of reasons why the currently proposed "reform" is a horrible idea is almost endless. And none of it will change the minds of those who are blind and deaf to the obvious.

We have only to read some of the cheerleaders' letters to the editor and comments here to understand that.

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