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Cable subscribers face tough choice

Thursday, November 26, 2009
(Updated 3:00 am)

GREENSBORO — Roll over or get tough?

That’s the question Time Warner Cable began asking its subscribers, including more than 400,000 in the Triad, on Wednesday.

The company has launched a campaign to target what it calls unfair price demands by programmers that can involve fee increases of more than 300 percent.

The campaign includes a Web site called rolloverorgettough.com, at which subscribers can vote on how Time Warner should proceed in contract negotiations with News Corp., which owns Fox and other programming providers.

When contracts expire, network owners have the right to pull their signals off the air.

In the case of News Corp., get tough means viewers may not be able to watch such shows as “The Simpsons,” “House,” “24,” “American Idol,” plus some NFL games.

Roll over will likely mean higher costs for subscribers.

“Our customers are really being held hostage over their favorite shows,” said Melissa Buscher, director of media relations for Time Warner in North Carolina. “We need (their) guidance. Should we pay up and raise our prices — and we are sensitive to that — or do we fight back and risk the networks taking away their programming?”

Buscher said Time Warner has several contracts coming up for renewal by the end of the year but refused to identify the companies involved.

However, The Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday the list includes News Corp., the Weather Channel and Sinclair Broadcast Group, which owns television stations. The article said network owners want to be fairly compensated.

Buscher had a different take.

“What makes it different this year is the weak advertising market,” she said. “Programmers are trying to make up revenue shortfalls by charging us more to carry their signals.”

Buscher said other cable and satellite companies and video distributors face the same problems.

“They’re caught between the consumer and the programming providers,” said Frank Donaldson, a faculty member in media studies at UNCG, referring to companies such as Time Warner.

“The programming providers, because they are producing new and original material, their costs are up and they are demanding higher subscriber fees.”

Ultimately, Donaldson said, customers can expect to see their rates rise.

“You pretty much know that’s what’s coming down the road,” he said. “That’s pretty much what we are headed for.”

But Buscher denied that Time Warner has mounted its campaign to prepare customers to shell out more for cable.

“We don’t want to raise your rates any more than we have to,” she said. “... That’s why we are asking customers what to do. If we roll over, they pay the price. If we get tough, they may lose their favorite show. We have tough choices to make.”

In addition to the new Web site, Time Warner’s campaign will include television and newspaper advertising.

But a visit to the site makes it clear how Time Warner wants subscribers to vote.

“It’s your money,” those who select “Roll Over” are told. “Instead of rolling over, we think it’s time to speak out against TV networks that boost their bottom line by squeezing TV viewers like you.” The site adds, “Are you sure you don’t want to Get Tough?”

Contact Donald W. Patterson at 373-7027 or don.patterson@news-record.com
 

Accompanying Photos

Staff photo (News & Record)

Photo Caption: Time Warner Cable office off Spring Garden Street in Greensboro.

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InventorNC

November 26, 2009 - 3:38 am EST

Time for Time-W to get tough. We are not going to pay more and they shouldn't either. Frankly, most of those shows from News Corp.are garbage anyway. HA!
There are zillions of channels I would love to be able to see. Dump the greedy ones and show the others.
What I would like is for T-W to unbundle. They would make more money if they did, not less. More of us would pick and choose the package we want - with more expensive channels like HBO if we could have what *we* want, not what T_W wants us to want.

tgwrightsr

November 26, 2009 - 6:13 am EST

Agreed - let us unbundle and choose our lineup. I probably watch no more than 4 channels total anyways.

bcparsons

November 26, 2009 - 3:52 am EST

i'll miss house but i'm not willing to pay more to see one show! as for the other junk, i've never looked at it anyway. fox noise disappearing from my tv would be great and make the recent increase more bearable.

r1948

November 26, 2009 - 4:21 am EST

There is a third alternative. After 24 service calls to Time-Warner in 4 months, I told them to remove their junk. I have had Direct Tv now for almost 2 years without a single outage. I get channelstha TW doesn't offer such as the NFL network. That was the only way to watch the Panthers game on Nov. 19. I pay $60 a month for 250 channels. Time Warner has always been overpriced.

Katbyrd

November 27, 2009 - 11:49 am EST

Glad to hear that about Direct TV. Getting it installed today and goodbye TWC. Hate the new "navigator" system... all we want to do is change the channel, nothing more. Now the TV goes black for a few seconds before the channel appears. TWC Customer Service rep copped an attitude when I called to complain about the "navigator" and when I asked if we had a choice for the "old" or "new", she rudely told me that we did not have a choice. And I told her, yes we do -- we're switching to DirectTV. TWC can kiss my butt.

amcat

November 26, 2009 - 6:35 am EST

People do NOT need a price increase now. Is T-W trying to drive people away from cable? I would gladly give up about three channels that I never watch in exchange for keeping my bill the same as it is now. However, I'm wise to the methods of American business: A give back today will still lead to a price increase tomorrow.

ravencottage

November 26, 2009 - 6:53 am EST

Over the air TV is free..."House" included. I purchased a full sized outdoor antenna and installed it in my attic. With a splitter and signal amplifier I ran cable to two televisions. One is digital and the other uses a digital converter box. Picture/sound is perfect and all local channels are available including those even from Roanoke VA.

histrion

November 27, 2009 - 9:36 am EST

Exactly what I was thinking, Raven. I think Time Warner's "get tough" approach should be to dump News Corp's stuff and give the difference back to customers as a voucher towards putting up antennas. ;-)

Norm*

November 26, 2009 - 7:31 am EST

T-W doesn't need my money to compensate for other folks grubbing for profit. Direct-TV here we come.

JoeScott

November 27, 2009 - 5:51 am EST

Time Warner,

If your true desire is to give subscribers what they want, why don't you give us an option where we can pick and choose the channels we want A La Carte? That way instead of asking people to pay a lump sum for 240 channels -- 230 of which they could easily live without -- they can pick and choose, essentially subscribing to what they want via a digital cable box.

As an added bonus, it would be great if you set it up where customers can view the channels they paid for outside of their home via the Internet.

People have been asking for services like these for some time, and because you are in cahoots with most of the cable TV networks, it will probably never happen. At least not under your watch. If that's the case, hopefully a rich, internet entrepreneur will step up to the plate delivering on both of these wishes and more so they can put you out of business for good.

Who knows, maybe it will be Netflix?

Sincerely,
Joe Scott

tledford

November 26, 2009 - 7:59 am EST

I'm objective because I've been a DirecTV subscriber since 1997, but "unbundling" or creating a bundle of just these networks and making it optional would seem to be a logical way to handle this. The only downside is that since fewer subscribers would opt for the new optional "bundle" than are currently receiving these networks as part of their current "bundle" then the pricing for the new optional "bundle" would be incrementally (but how large an increment?) higher.

blackstream

November 26, 2009 - 8:16 am EST

It would seem to me that both the networks, and T-W, are barking up the wrong tree. If no one is carrying the networks signal, and no one is watching anything through T-W, where are they going to get any money? I would hate to do it, but I could spend that money on videos since I mostly watch movies anyway. As for the Weather Channel, I can't get that through the net. I might even be able so spend more time doing something else more important.

4thepeople

November 26, 2009 - 8:51 am EST

To r1948, I'm sure out of those 24 service calls to TWC none of them were your fault right?
Maybe you went down to Home Depot, picked up a few 50 0r 60 foot jumpers a couple of splitters and did your own wiring?
Or maybe you wanted to dig in the yard plant a flower or a tree and cut the cable and blamed TWC, or better yet!
Plant your new mailbox right on the main cable feeding the whole neighborhood, without calling 1800 DIG?
TWC is a little more expensive than Directv or Dishnetwork.
Only because they have to actually pay people to go fix customer wiring, customer uneducation and thieves climbing poles and damaging plant.
You see when you look at dollar signs it's a little higher, but when you use common sense there is just more to it than a buck.

Panacea

November 26, 2009 - 10:42 am EST

I had TWC for 4 years. Every time they "upgraded" the software than ran my DVR box, the box would crash. Getting it working was a tedious and time consuming process. When I moved, I called to arrange the transfer of my service and had everything set up before the move date. Then they took $500 out of my checking account without notifying me, saying I "owed" for my DVR box, and "hadn't turned it in after canceling service." I hadn't canceled, I'd transferred it, and in fact was getting service at my new address. Getting them to put the money back was a pain, and they didn't want to contact my bank to pay the overdraft fees I incurred as a result of all this--I had to go through hell to get them to pay it, and take ownership of the problem with my bank.

Direct TV has been a blessing. Never a service problem, and I get more bang for my buck.

I still wish I could get ala carte though.

r1948

November 26, 2009 - 7:22 pm EST

Sorry to disappoint you, it was to a single receiver and I havent dug any new holes. The service was overhead to my back yard from across the road. It is no longer there since I requested it be removed from my property.The technicians were very good at changing the receiver but it didn't solve the problem. One of their "engineers" couldn't figure it out either after replacing the wire from across the road. What good are service people who can't perform a service? Before you jump to conclusions, know what you are talking about. Are you one of their stooges?

4thepeople

November 27, 2009 - 6:01 am EST

Know what I am talking about?
Those were examples, and the morale of that story was it's not about a buck!
Issues arise that don't necessarily have to be right there on your property.
Also, I already see what kind of person you are.
Stooges?
I guess you are the only one with the RIGHT opinion, and everyone else,
should agree with you or shut up.
Keep up the good work.
Mo,

Panacea

November 27, 2009 - 11:03 am EST

Given the vast majority of opinions here disagree with you, I'm more inclined to view r1948 to be a bit more credible than you are.

When one person gushes about a company that others seem to hate, that often times is the hall mark of a shill, so the question was on target.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and you are right that sometimes cable problems come from a source off your property.

But TWC has a reputation of poor customer service, and that didn't happen for no reason at all.

4thepeople

November 27, 2009 - 12:42 pm EST

I'm not Gushing over TWC.
I'm simply saying that while there are legitimate complaints, there are options.
As for being credible?
You don't know either one of us!
What I stated were facts on outside sources of problems in any service industry plant!
Customer wiring, customer un-education such as yourself, cut cables, theft of service!
All in the telecommunication industry.
So I guess Joe Blow r1948 is more credible than facts.
Just like a customer with no knowledge, yeah it's supposed to work when it's on, but how many of you know how it works?
Or how to work it

mrnoitall

November 26, 2009 - 8:51 pm EST

You sound like a Time Warner customer service flunky.The only problem with TW is that they have become too large to serve the customer and could care less.They have the market cornered.I hope North State gets it's Plex up and ging,but as for me it's gonna be Dish Network and DSL come first of the year.

4thepeople

November 27, 2009 - 6:19 am EST

Hey mrnoitall,
They have the market cornered? Tell me how is that?
Your going to dsl and Dish Network.
Sounds like options to me!
Do you even believe your own BS

Panacea

November 27, 2009 - 11:06 am EST

They have the cable market cornered.

People in apartments usually aren't allowed to get satellite. I wasn't. So TWC has a captive audience in rental units.

Northstate's fiber service is relatively new and limited in area (I have them for DSL but couldn't get them for TV).

In rural areas, TWC is the ONLY choice for internet.

With no competition, the cable companies can do what they like. In areas where there is competition, they are much nicer to their customers and provide better service.

4thepeople

November 27, 2009 - 12:27 pm EST

Ok they have the"cable" market cornered.
But before Northstate had phone cornered, BellSouth same thing.
What's the difference?
Rental units captive? Not all of them, you chose to move where you are just like there are more choices now for T.V.
Rural area's no choice? Last time I checked there is satellite internet.
Cmon there are always choices, by no means is TWC the greatest company on earth.
Just like everyone's opinion is not the greatest.
More people should open their minds before their mouth.
Just my opinion!

Panacea

November 27, 2009 - 8:31 pm EST

I was talking about cable choices, not a choice between cable and satellite. However, you are right that you can get dish in the country. I wasn't aware of Windstream (thanks kikablue).

However it's bad form to tell someone they can move rather than have real cable competition for their business. Moving is expensive in time and money; I don't know anyone who would move simply for that reason.

You're free to your opinion, but you might show a little respect to the opinions of others, since you seem to feel that anyone who has cable trouble is an idiot who doesn't know how to run their equipment. Your blatant disrespect is why your point of view got slammed. It's not what you said, but how you said it.

4thepeople

November 27, 2009 - 8:45 pm EST

My disrespect?
I'm called stooge and flunky, also not credible.
I'm the one who needs to show respect?
Of course I do, your right as usual

Panacea

November 27, 2009 - 10:30 pm EST

Glad you can see that. :P

4thepeople

November 28, 2009 - 9:25 am EST

Too bad you couldn't see what you read.
Maybe you would understand what I was talking about.
But again why should I bother with you.
My cable has worked fine for 7plus years now.
Or maybe because I understand it.
Or maybe I'm a shill, or stooge or flunky.
But I'll be all of those and more as long as I am not you.
Disrespect? look it up and I'm sure your picture is there.
I've seen customers pick up telephones and tell me their remote doesn't work the box!
I've seen customers plant a bush and wonder why the cable was working before they dug that hole? hmm must be Time Warners fault.
I've seen mailboxes planted on the feeder that serves numerous customers.
I've seen customer wiring and then blame it on TWC.
I've seen customers who can't work their boxes, even after I've written it down for them on a sheet of paper and called back 2 days later because they can't read their own handwritting.
In other words I've seen a lot more stupid customers, who would rather blame someone else than themselves.
And I'm guessing the only thing you take from this is what I am about to tell you.
I do work for TWC and I've moved customers furniture for them when I am not allowed to.
I took the time to write down instructions so they could understand what they are supposed to do.
I shook their dogs and kids off me and my tools because the parents were too lazy to let me do my job. O wait I was supposed to watch their kids too while I'm trying to unjam little Timmys action figure out of the vcr .
So to you whoever you are you haven't got a clue as to what a tech goes through everyday.
I know here it comes it's the job I took.
Well I don't deal directly with customers anymore so it's great now.
I'm the one digging up your neighbors or your mailbox to get everyone else working properly.
I'm the one disconnecting the person who went up the pole , damaged the plant and screwed everyone else up.
So before you call anyone credible. Let your brain catch up with your mouth.
I didn't push TWC I suggested problems I never said the were the greatest and I won't.
But you people are outta your mind if I'm not gonna open my mouth when you don't know jack.

4thepeople

November 28, 2009 - 9:41 am EST

Oh yeah all that and NEVER EVER A SERVICE CHARGE FEE!
Try getting that from satellite or the phone company.

Get Real

November 28, 2009 - 1:25 pm EST

$50 per room just to add a splitter.

4thepeople

November 28, 2009 - 3:41 pm EST

What you can't read either?
That's an INSTALLATION charge. Not a SERVICE charge.
OH wait they should get a contractor to fill up his truck with gas, pay his Insurance for vehicle and liability.
Pay for the equipment, and give his labor for free, huh?
Another person who doesn't understand what the hell was said.
GETREAL you should get GETACLUE.
No wonder you people are all miserable you want everything for free.
Sorry GETACLUE it don't work that way.

Get Real

November 30, 2009 - 1:49 am EST

Also, Time Warner's commercials are too loud. Suck on that.

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