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Allen Johnson: The inconvenient truth about Tasers and danger in our schools

Sunday, November 22, 2009
(Updated 4:35 am)

 

Even as Guilford County was debating, once again, the wisdom of police officers carrying stun guns on school grounds, four teens were being arrested in Wake County on Nov. 12 for a bringing a .22 caliber revolver and a butterfly knife onto the campus of Broughton High School.

The pistol turned out to be unloaded, but a knife requires no ammunition.

One day later, warrants were issued for the arrest of another teen for allegedly threatening a mass shooting at an Alamance County middle college.

In yet another incident not quite as near, but still too close for comfort, a South Carolina 11th-grader stabbed a school resource officer multiple times before being fatally shot by the officer. The confrontation occurred on Oct. 16 at Carolina Forest High School in Conway, less than 20 miles from Myrtle Beach. It was the second violent death on school grounds in four years. In June 2006, an 18-year-old Carolina Forest student was stabbed to death by her boyfriend.

The Oct. 16 tragedy especially resonated with one Conway resident, Walter Grey Richardson.

"You have the same crimes in school that you have on the streets," said Richardson, who now lives less than 2 miles from Carolina Forest. "Parents just don't want to open their eyes and see that."

Richardson also happens to be a retired Guilford County sheriff's deputy. He served as a school resource officer at Northeast and Northwest high schools for 12 of his 26 years with the Sheriff's Office.

He was so moved by the incident and so troubled by the Taser debate in his home county that he wrote a letter to the News & Record. The school board in Guilford County "should take a look at Carolina Forest," he wrote.

Truth is, the question of Taser use -- or not -- in schools is a tortured choice between the schools we want and the schools we have.

The schools we want wouldn't need armed police officers and sheriff's deputies in the first place, just the steady hand of a firm principal and the support of tough teachers and strong parents.

The schools we have can be harsh, unpredictable places where the problems of the larger community tend to spill at times into the hallways and classrooms.

Richardson described his experience as an SRO in Guilford County as "a very, very rude awakening." "I dealt with everything from strong-arm robberies to assaults with weapons," he said.

That's not to say most students don't respect authority or the rule of law. In fact, what's good about our schools is as good as ever. But what's bad is much worse.

I saw evidence of that firsthand while volunteering at Jackson Middle School several years ago, when a glaring seventh-grader called her teacher a "monkey" and threatened the woman repeatedly before being sent home with her mother.

Richardson, who retired in 2005, was not equipped with a Taser. In those days SROs carried a retractable baton called an Asp, pepper spray and a gun. "The schools, at the time, were against us having pepper spray," Richardson said.

Sheriff BJ Barnes and High Point police Chief Jim Fealy discussed the Taser issue Thursday in a community panel in High Point. The Guilford school board and law enforcement officials plan a second discussion of the issue on a date to be determined.

But it's unlikely that any significant changes will result. Both Barnes and Greensboro Police Chief Tim Bellamy have insisted that their SROs should be armed no differently from other officers in the field.

Look, these are our children, Taser opponents fire back. They also question the safety of stun guns as alternative to firearms.

But, as Richardson notes, even unarmed students can pose a formidable threat. "I'm 6-2 and I weigh 250 pounds," he said. Then he described the challenge of handcuffing a 6-4, 300-pound student who did not want to be handcuffed.

Of course, the student Tasered at Ragsdale High School in September was only 5-foot-4 and weighed 155 pounds. But she had threatened two faculty members and assaulted the deputy.

Meanwhile, most studies find that Tasers rarely cause death or serious injury. A 2007 study by the Wake Forest University School of Medicine found that, in 99.7 percent of 1,000 cases in which police used Tasers, the person shocked suffered only scrapes and bruises. When officers resort to guns, we don't need any studies to know the dangers.

And as Barnes pointed out Thursday, in three-and-a-half years since Tasers have been carried in Guilford schools, they have been used only four times.

Maybe that's why I found myself squarely on one side of the issue two years ago. And find myself squarely on the other side today.

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johnq2

November 22, 2009 - 9:01 am EST

It is astonishing to me there is even a need for a School Resource Officer. I'm only 45 and I can never recall having a police officer in any school I attended. The truth is parents no longer discipline their children and the result is lack of respect for anyone and contempt for authority. When a teacher does try to discipline a student the parent complains and threatens legal action. Since there is a need for police officers on campus they should be armed in the same manner as other officers. They certainly face the same risks.

Voice of Reason

November 22, 2009 - 12:01 pm EST

johnq2, I'm only 34, never had an SRO while in school, and am a graduate of Southwest Guilford High School. I don't recall any of the kids at my school in the early 90's robbing a convenient store, although I'm sure a few students were arrested without my knowledge off-campus. But I've got a friend who teaches at SW now, and he knows the students involved. He knows all three of the students started the day at school, attended homeroom or their first class, at least, and perhaps longer. Its likely those "kids" had the gun with them when they went to school. Or, perhaps they stole it from one of the houses that have been reported broken into in the area. Either way, the kids in school these days are very different than those of the past- they don't respect their own parents, much less teachers or police.

Honestly, though this is just one incident, all across this county high school students are committing violent crimes every day. They have guns, they roam in gangs, they sell and use drugs, they break into cars and houses, they steal. They are criminals, some of them dangerous. I wish it were not so, but the reality is these kids are in our schools every day. Ask any teacher, they'll educate you. Its good to see an opinion piece in this paper finally recognize this, speak out, and side with the police on this topic for a change.

Get Over It

November 23, 2009 - 2:15 pm EST

With the North Carolina Unemployment rate at 11% and impacting 496,279 parents/citizens I would imagine that in lieu of blogging so many negative responses we should try and provide resolutions to help support:

Why so many students do not understand academics? What does the district do with all the Level 1 and Level 2 students and if we look hard enough we will see the Level 3's are not scoring that high?

What type of interventions is implemented to deal with situations from looking at the state data from for GCS 2008-2009 at the 545 total offenses does that mean each student received a felony and now are not only not eligible to get a job but they are also impacted by this for the rest of their lives

But I forgot in this community we have a very small group of adults with common sense to know that tasering students is not the answer nor is having law enforcement deal with school related issues.

EGParent

November 23, 2009 - 3:13 pm EST

Get Over It...
We have a lot of homeless youth in Guilford County that never get in trouble with the law or would ever be in a position of being tasared in school ... don't equate homelessness with trouble makers...

Homeless students usually stay out of trouble so they do not bring attention to themselves and their situation.
I trust the law enforcement officer to use the amount of force that they have been trained to use for the situation and
if they do not then this should be handled with the department...I think the question here is the lack of trust with our
officers...not to say I don't understand your concern...but having witnessed a recent high school altercation...I see the benefits of having a tasar armed SRO officer on the campus...I don't like it...but unfortunately I see the need.

Get Over It

November 23, 2009 - 2:24 pm EST

During the 2008-2009 school year Guilford County School had less than 2,000 students have been identified by parent/guardian as homeless. I AM SURE MANY BLOGGERS HAVE REGULAR FUNDS

An Average DAY at Greensboro Urban Ministry

180 people are assisted with rent, mortgage, utility bills, clothing, and food through the Emergency Assistance Program
.

• 30-50 families receive emergency food orders; 20 non-profit agencies receive hundreds of pounds of food from the Food Bank
.

• 450-500 people fed a hot meal at Potter's House Community Kitchen
.

• 100 homeless individuals provided shelter and supportive services at Weaver House
.

• 16 homeless families provided shelter and supportive services at Pathways Center (located near Partnership Village); 20 families in Beyond Pathways are assigned a Housing Care Team to help reach their goal of maintaining permanent housing
.

• 30 guests, staff, and volunteers receive spiritual counseling through the Chaplaincy Program and 10 individuals recovering from substance abuse through the Manfred Gaiser Substance Abuse Recovery Program
.

• 68 transitional apartments are provided to formerly homeless families and individuals working toward self-sufficiency at Partnership Village (a transitional housing community)

• 160 children who live at Partnership Village neighborhood and range in age from toddlers on up are provided quality childcare at the Madeline B. McElveen Child Development Center
.

•105 volunteers are actively involved giving freely of their time preparing meals, interviewing clients, filling food orders, sorting clothes, answering phone, serving on committiees, and performing various other activities through Volunteer Services

This information was obtained from the Greensboro Urban Ministry website http://www.greensborourbanministry.org/about/news/averageday.html

Paul Daniels

November 22, 2009 - 9:44 am EST

Allen:

Well said!

Best regards,

Paul Daniels,
BOE District 5

Get A Clue

November 22, 2009 - 10:24 am EST

Yes, yes and yes to the editorial and first 2 comments.
If we're arguing over whether or not to permit officers in our schools to carry tasers, we have already lost the battle and the war.
We have alloowed our schools to become places where an officer of the law is needed on a daily basis. That is inexcusible.
The system is broken at every level. Every level. No need to choose a single aspect to rail against.
We won't fix the problem by cutting funding or by throwing money at it.
We won't fix the problem by blaming parents, blaming teachers, blaming administration, blaming children.
We will get there by asking each what it is they need to succeed and then finding the best way to get them there. This issue is bigger than our personal political party affiliation, bigger than our petty differences.
Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
We're either for it or against it.

countryboy

November 22, 2009 - 12:21 pm EST

Clue...it would be nice if middle and high schools were a microcosm of society, but they are not. That would reflect society as a whole. School is a microcosm of a small segment of society...teens! Teens are the segment of society that is victimized the most by crime...and second, only behind the next age group, in commiting crimes. That is not going to stop simply because they are on campus...in fact, being on campus compounds the problem. Throw in those who have been expelled who choose the trespass by returning to campus...in addition to little Susie's 23 year old boyfriend who wants to stop by and see her...and it is amazing that we get by with one SRO and a Taser. Give them what they need to PROTECT the students and staff.

Get Over It

November 23, 2009 - 2:16 pm EST

While many say the numbers are off has anyone ever consider the SRO officers are involved with supporting with the reports. http://www.gcsnc.com/09_10news/08-09GCS_legally_reportable_offenses.pdf

cr8er

November 22, 2009 - 10:42 am EST

In the continuum of force, I would rather see options before what will happen when a .40 caliber bullet lodges into the body of a 15-year-old student. The arguments against stun guns do not stand to reason. As an educator, teacher, and administrator, I welcome SROs into our buildings. They are a phenomenal resource when conducting investigations, and I want them armed with everything they need to do their jobs properly and in the interest of the safety of students, students who can be of danger to themselves and other people.

DaveW

November 22, 2009 - 11:21 am EST

Thank you Lisa!

Get Over It

November 23, 2009 - 1:58 pm EST

As of today 1,073 Guilford County School students have been identified by parent/guardian as homeless.

PROVIDE RESOLUTIONS NOT JUDGING: It is challenging for a student to focus on academics and be able to complete homework/research school projects when you or your parents are trying to figure out where your next meal is coming from

Throughout the nation violence is a concern however lets see how violent staff will turn when they do not have the salaries they rely on to feed/shelter their families.

eduguytoo

November 23, 2009 - 7:48 pm EST

I read this editorial in Sunday's paper, and I've read it again here. The concluding paragraph is this:

"Maybe that's why I found myself squarely on one side of the issue two years ago. And find myself squarely on the other side today."

Am I alone in being a bit uncertain about which side Alan Johnson favored two years ago and which side he favors now? Sounds a bit ambiguous to me.

I hope that what is being suggested, perhaps a bit more bluntly stated, is this: "Two years ago I might have objected to SRO officers carrying Tasers in the schools. Based on what I know now and episodes that have transpired recently in the Guilford County Schools and elsewhere, I believe officers carrying Tasers (and even using them when justified) is the right thing."

Is that the intended message of the editorial? I sure hope so!

James45

November 29, 2009 - 12:30 am EST

Do you really expect anything other than an ambiguous comment from Allen Johnson....
Come on!!!!

Anyway, while we have school kids willing to nip off Campus, rob as store and shoot somebody in the process, surely this is a stupid discussion.

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