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State says 'life' inmates can't shorten sentences

Thursday, November 19, 2009
(Updated Friday, November 20 - 5:30 am)

RALEIGH (AP) — North Carolina officials said Thursday that a group of violent inmates who were nearly set free because of a quirky 1970s law that limited a life sentence to 80 years are not eligible to receive good behavior credits that would shorten their sentences.

Gov. Beverly Perdue said the credits will only be used to improve an inmate's chance at parole. If the prisoners were never paroled, the earliest release would be 2054.

"I will continue to pursue all legal means of preventing the release of these inmates without any review by the parole board or any post-release supervision," Perdue said in a statement.

Inmate Bobby Bowden had successfully argued in state courts that his life sentence was defined as 80 years — something Perdue conceded in her statement Thursday. He had also argued that a new sentencing law that began in the early 1980s had cut his time in half and that additional credits — 210 days of good conduct credit, 753 days of meritorious credit and 1,537 days of gain-time credit — made him immediately eligible for unconditional release.

Staples Hughes, the state appellate defender whose office represented Bowden, said it was regrettable the state was spending so much time and money pursuing an argument that has no legal basis.

"They, in essence, are continuing to attempt to defy the rule of law," Hughes said. "It has long since ceased to be a legal issue. It is simply a political issue and a mechanism for the governor to use to attempt to raise her popularity."

Some of the inmates, most convicted of rape or murder, were set to be released last month. Perdue later blocked the release by arguing that officials had improperly applied some of the credits.

The potential releases appalled victims and their advocates, partially because most of the inmates would be freed without any post-release supervision. Only one would have had official supervision, although those convicted of rape would have to register as sex offenders.

A handful of those inmates have been working toward time outside of prison, using volunteer or work-release programs to spend time in society. They can eventually be approved for supervised release by the parole board.

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Panacea

November 19, 2009 - 12:11 pm EST

Gov. Perdue is playing with fire. You can't keep control in a prison environment if you treat one group of inmates differently from another. Firm, fair, and consistent is the key to controlling the prison environment.

Take away good time credits, and you lose incentive to work with the system. Perdue is making things harder for wardens and correctional officers, risking their safety.

I know a lot of people think prison inmates should just rot. But that's not realistic. You can't claim the moral high ground of a just and impartial legal system, then change the rules mid-game because you don't like the outcome.

This issue is going to wind up back in court, and Perue will lose.

truth

November 19, 2009 - 12:34 pm EST

Agreed, Panacea. This ruling will have unintended adverse affects. Sure, Perdue didn't want to be known as the governor that unleashed rapists and murderers into the streets. But by taking away good behavior time that has already been earned and processed, she's hurting more than just the 20-something criminals that were set to be released.

I agree. If a higher-level court hears this case, she will lose.

linus

November 19, 2009 - 2:31 pm EST

WAY TO GO PERDUE!!!! Its about time someone stood up about our screwed up court system. It is obvious that you are not a victim. It is not a victims choice to live in hiding and fear forever. The criminal had a choice to choose to break the law and hurt someone else. It might hurt the families of the criminals but who cares. They made that choice and they should have to pay. Good behavior, what a joke, we reward them because they didn't kill each other in prison,that is crazy. Its not preschool its prison. It would hurt more people if they were released. I think they should have to go through what they did to their victims. I think they have it to good in jail anyways. If it were up to me they would all starve.

elsoots

November 19, 2009 - 12:50 pm EST

If you get 80 or 40 years you should be in prison of the nember of years, some will get out and do it agian.

Kesh

November 19, 2009 - 4:05 pm EST

I agree with Panacea... this is not the last of this.............

VALawyer

November 19, 2009 - 4:21 pm EST

Panacea is right. NC passed the life = 80 years law and now it has to live with the consequences. Though I'm sure the governor who signed that into law is long dead so the public has no one to attack. Perdue is taking the easy and popular way out. She has no courage.

linus

November 19, 2009 - 5:26 pm EST

looks to me like she has a lot of courage. She is standing up for the victims, that doesnt happen much in this state

dreemer1

November 19, 2009 - 1:19 pm EST

I wonder if Staples Hughes has ever had a violent crime committed against his family or close friends or if he just relishes in the money he gets from defending creeps that rob, rape, maim and kill. I hope the man who killed my brother and who said in court " I did it cause I felt like it" rots in prison and the other inmates treat him as he should be treated! like the murdering piece of worthless flesh he is!

dreemer1

November 19, 2009 - 1:22 pm EST

also... people who commit crimes should have 0 rights. I mean 0. I can rightfully say this because my father was in prison until he died. unless you know from experience you can't possibly relate. Don't give me rights ... what about the babies who are raped and killed what is the value of that. or innocent senior citzens what is the price of that. Forever punished or death is the only right they deserve!

Panacea

November 19, 2009 - 2:21 pm EST

I'm sorry to hear about your situation.

I worked as a correctional nurse for 3 years. I've seen how prisons work first hand. Believe me, it's no way to live. Simply being there is punishment.

As a society, we simply can't say the convicted have no rights. To do so leads to horrible abuses. That's why we have the Eighth Amendment, prohibiting cruel and unusual punishment.

The convicted to prison AS punishment, not FOR punishment.

If we truly want people to come out of prison and not reoffend, we have to do our part to make that possible. We have to be fair about sentencing, and follow the rules we expect offenders to follow.

We don't send the right message when we say "the rules apply to everyone but us."

CADDMAN

November 19, 2009 - 2:56 pm EST

Panacea is a true Sexual Intellectual comments on all comments and knows nothing!!!!!!!!!!

MR.SOFTBALL27

November 19, 2009 - 5:12 pm EST

CADDMAN hit the nail on the head with that one!!! LOL

kurts12gauge

November 19, 2009 - 1:47 pm EST

Just another Democrat keeping the oppression of the black man alive. Why we keep voting for them is beyond me.

danifaire

November 19, 2009 - 2:22 pm EST

where does it say she's only doing this to black inmates? Are you seriously trying to say this is a racial issue? You gotta be kidding.

whyus

November 19, 2009 - 1:52 pm EST

Why should race be a factor in the decision to keep murders and rapists behind bars for their full sentence? Otherwise, I propose to let these inmates out and have the kin of their victims exact their own rule of law.

luvdowntowngso

November 19, 2009 - 2:13 pm EST

Black or White? This is not a race issue!! Don't do the crime in the first place and you won't have to worry about loosing your "credits"!

danifaire

November 19, 2009 - 2:16 pm EST

These men terrorized, raped and killed people. I don't think that only serving part of their sentence is good enough. I think when they sentence you to life in prison you should spend your entire life in there. Their good behavior doesn't mean a thing to their victims nor does it rescind any wrongs that they committed. I'm NOT a big Perdue fan, but in this instance I think she's actually doing the right thing.

lilbean

November 19, 2009 - 2:37 pm EST

like it or not, it seems the inmates are probally correct. perdue should be careful as this will be her second constitutional violation.

VALawyer

November 19, 2009 - 4:26 pm EST

Most Americans hate the Constitution or don't even understand it so they will probably like what Perdue is doing.

MR.SOFTBALL27

November 19, 2009 - 4:55 pm EST

Here we go again, get a life idiot!!!

linus

November 19, 2009 - 5:30 pm EST

you would feel differently if you were the victim or one of your family members -- VALawyer-- then again probably not

phillib

November 19, 2009 - 3:29 pm EST

It is about time North Carolina woke up. If they were sentenced to life in prison - that should be life - when there is no longer life in them - then they can be released to be buried.

JimDandy

November 19, 2009 - 3:30 pm EST

Although I am not standing up for Perdue " Shes just doing this for votes " I must say I can not see the fairness in going to prision in the 70s and having a law passed in the 80s and having that law apply to them. Wouldnt that mean EVERY law that has been passed , Lets say , The newer Child Tax Credits be applied for every year I applied just because it was passed this year,I dont think so.
These people are trying to get out on a law that did not apply to their case at the time they did their crimes so there for they should have to do their toral times of 80 years before getting any chance of getting out.

VALawyer

November 19, 2009 - 4:29 pm EST

It's possible for a new law to lessen the sentence of a person. What would be unconstitutional is an ex post facto law (punishing retroactively) and Article 1, section 9 of the Constitution prohibits those.

MR.SOFTBALL27

November 19, 2009 - 4:56 pm EST

Well what do you know a crooked lawyer has shown up to defend these thugs on the street!!!

Panacea

November 19, 2009 - 4:58 pm EST

Funny how everyone hates a lawyer . . . until they need one.

MR.SOFTBALL27

November 19, 2009 - 5:03 pm EST

Hey if you are not a crook and don't do anything wrong you don't need one panacea!!!

CADDMAN

November 19, 2009 - 5:29 pm EST

HEY MR. SOFTBALL27 I found a place for these inmates they can stay with VALawyer and panacea these inmates may need a lawyer and a nurse

tbench

November 19, 2009 - 5:07 pm EST

Unless your a LIB then you think your above the law.

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