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Greensboro swim center still needs millions

Thursday, November 12, 2009
(Updated 5:24 am)

GREENSBORO — The city has shaved about $3 million off the cost of a planned competitive swim center at the Greensboro Coliseum, but construction will still cost $6 million more than the city has to spend.

By the end of the week, the city staff will recommend ways to make up the difference.

One option could include using hotel room taxes to pay for part of the center, a recommendation made by the Greensboro/Guilford County Tourism Development Authority.

“Our message was that the hospitality industry feels that this development is important enough that we may need to stretch or push a little bit to get it done,” said Henri Fourrier, CEO of the Greensboro Area Convention and Visitors Bureau.

Last year, voters approved a $12 million pool as part of a $20 million parks and recreation bond.

At the time, city staff estimated that a regional competition facility might cost upward of $15 million.

In May, the City Council decided that the money would be spent on a competitive swim center to be built at the coliseum.

A little more than $1 million has been spent on designing the center, which will include learn-to-swim and competition-size pools and a diving area.

The center will be used to attract major swim meets and local events.

When contractors bid on the project in October, the low bid was just shy of $20 million.

Since then, the city staff has worked with the low bidder, Shelco of Winston-Salem, to cut the cost.

Butch Simmons, the city engineering and inspections director, said engineers and staff members have made cosmetic changes, such as downgrading to less expensive building finishes inside and out and changing the type of heating and air conditioning planned for the building.

“The only thing we used as a guiding post was we didn’t want to impact the integrity of the design of the pool system so it could be used as a venue to host national meets,” coliseum director Matt Brown said.

City staff members are expected to provide funding options to the City Council by the end of the week.

City and county hotel tax revenue, which is split up to fund a variety of enterprises, including the visitors bureau, has been used to fund projects at the coliseum.

Some revenue is paying debt for coliseum renovations made in the 1990s, city finance director Rick Lusk said.

Fourrier said that about $500,000 a year is set aside in a capital fund that could be used to help pay for the aquatics center.

On Tuesday night, he asked the council to consider using that money.

The aquatics center could have an annual economic impact of $14.5 million, Fourrier said.

Council members have pressed to get the aquatics center built while the economy is in a lull and construction prices are lower.

“This probably is this community’s chance to build this facility,” Councilman Robbie Perkins said.

Simmons suggested that the center would escalate in price if the city does not take advantage of the lower costs during the economic downturn.

“I just don’t want us to miss an opportunity to have this facility here which will bring championship tournaments,” Mayor Yvonne Johnson said.

Contact Amanda Lehmert at 373-7075 or amanda.lehmert@news-record.com

 

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igliigli

November 12, 2009 - 3:05 am EST

The swim center is a taxpayer rip-off.

jgeorge

November 12, 2009 - 8:00 am EST

No, I do not agree with the fact that it was a ripoff. It was a well planned attempt by a small, special interest group to achieve what they had failed to achieve in two previous attempts. And it worked. So we, the majority, judging by the past votes on the swim center bond, were suckered by the the words "Parks and Recreation Bond" and voted yes. And now we will all pay the price for being too lazy to read an entire proposal with an eye toward fraud. To be sure, I will read the fine print ("a swimming facility and other recreational facilities") closely from here on out. But it was there. Placed there by folks who knew what they wanted and how to use the system to get it. And when it is finally built with our taxpayer's money, I will wager that the majority of people who voted yes will not be able to use it. After reading what I just wrote, yep, it was a ripoff.

d_random

November 12, 2009 - 8:49 am EST

Agreed! Third time was a charm for the pool "bond".
I voted "NO" and hoped others would see through the deception, but they didn't and now we are stuck with another money pit.

d_random

November 12, 2009 - 9:03 am EST

How much are we gonna let Matt Brown shake Greensboro down for before we have had enough?!

Pye210

November 12, 2009 - 9:26 am EST

It's good to know that there are some people in the City Government who have some business sense. A facility that pays for itself with significant economic benefit generation for our local businesses plus delivers significant public benefit? How could anyone who can balance their own checkbook disagree with that?

jgeorge

November 12, 2009 - 9:32 am EST

1) I don't think you can blame this one on Matt Brown. 2) As for balancing the check book, anyone can write down a number. Only time will tell if it is correct. If fourteen million in revenue annually does happen, I will be surprised.

rooster8786

November 12, 2009 - 11:58 am EST

Why is that ANYWHERE in the financial world if you want to build a house you get approved for a loan and build a house with-in that budget. If you want to buy a car, you develop a budget for the payments and stay with-in budget. If you want to go on vacation, you save money for a while and then plan your vacation with-in that budgeted amount. In Greensboro, our "leaders" develop a budget for something, get the voters to approve it, then throw the damn budget out the window and go back to the taxpayer and say "oops, we're 75% overbudget so we're going to raise taxes". When are they going to realize you can't keep raising taxes. Who is in charge of some of these projects and why are they still employed?

williag_1998

November 12, 2009 - 3:28 pm EST

First the bonds have to stop. No more period. We can't afford this stuff. If private enterprise can't find a way to make a buck doing it, then it is a government sponsored never ending money pit. Whoever missed the amount by 3 million on building this deal needs to be issued his/their walking papers. This is precisely why the government has no business running anything.

d_random

November 13, 2009 - 9:07 am EST

Completely agree!

MGDougherty

November 12, 2009 - 3:49 pm EST

Here's the problem as I see it with the swim center: all taxpayers pay for the expense of borrowing the funds to build it, but all the economic impact goes to a small number of businesses, not the taxpayers. Additionally, taxpayer use of the facility will likely be marginalized in favor of events, teams, etc.

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