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Is Guilford to take on a historic debt load?

Sunday, October 25, 2009
(Updated 8:15 am)

GREENSBORO - If the bond referendum for the Natural Science Center of Greensboro fails, it may be a victim of bad timing.

The cost of the $20 million bond — on which Greensboro voters will decide Nov. 3 — means only about $12 more on the tax bill for the owner of a $200,000 home in Greensboro.

That’s about the cost of a weekday lunch for two, but debt adds up quickly when one considers the cost of bond issues planned for the county and city in the next year.

Even so, the science center bond has widespread support. Many business, civic and political groups support the bond, along with former Mayor Keith Holliday, political candidates, physicians, business owners and attorneys.

“It’s important to have access to nature in an urban setting,” Greensboro’s Randy Seals said as he and his 6-year-old son left the Greensboro Children’s Museum on Thursday.

“We do it all there — we go to the zoo, see the nature. We do the whole thing,” he said.

Expanding and renovating the science center will cost taxpayers money. Any time voters approve a bond referendum, higher taxes are expected.

“In today’s economy, the City Council needs to control their spending and quit pushing the bonds on us,” said David Smith of Greensboro, who said that he has voted for bonds in the past but opposes this one.

In 2010, the county must find $24.3 million in new money to pay back a historic level of bonds that voters recently passed to pay for new schools, a jail, GTCC expansion and other projects.

The bond sale would add $114 annually to the Guilford County tax bill for a person with a $200,000 home.

Meanwhile, the city finance analysts are projecting a property-tax rate increase that would add $60 to the tax bill for the owner of a $200,000 home. Of that increase, $35 would go to bond debt.

“The taxpayers need a little bit of breathing room,” said Melvin “Skip” Alston, chairman of the Guilford County Board of Commissioners, about how bond issues could affect county taxpayers.

Local tax increases first go through elected bodies before hitting residents. For example, though early projections showed property-tax rate increases for the current annual city and county budgets, the Greensboro City Council and the county commissioners were able to keep taxes from rising before passing their respective budgets.

But with regard to bonds, and especially for the county, more debt is on the horizon.

In 2011, the county will issue bonds that would increase that $200,000 homeowner’s property tax bill another $80.

The problem, elected officials often say, is one that voters created for themselves. After county voters passed bond referenda worth $651.1 million and city voters approved bond packages worth $155 million in 2008, a tax increase could be expected in coming years.

But many voters didn’t expect the recession would hit and cause financial strain for families, businesses and government.

“We have to act in spite of their good intentions,” Alston said.

And the city still must issue bonds from referenda in 2000, 2006 and 2008.

“We’ll be issuing that $210 million over the next 10 years,” said Rick Lusk, the city’s finance director. The city plans to issue $86 million in bonds next year to primarily fund new street improvements, parks and fire stations.

And though the recession makes for painful times for many, there is one silver lining: Bonds are cheaper, and the contractors hunting for multimillion-dollar government projects are willing to make a deal.

With that in mind, the city could also accelerate about $64 million more in bond construction, Lusk said. If those projects are fast-tracked for cheap rates and labor, the property-tax rate for city residents could rise even more.

“We can either get much more work done or save huge amounts of interest down the road,” said Councilman Robbie Perkins, who is running for re-election.

He wants the city’s $12 million swim center to break ground quickly.

“The strategy might not work,” Perkins said about speeding projects along, “but the do-nothing strategy won’t work. Doing nothing in this situation is a bad decision.”

Guilford County recently benefited from low bond rates and a hungry construction market.

Commissioners learned this month that building a jail downtown would cost $84.9 million, about $10 million less than the $94.5 million originally expected.

“We’re trying to weigh the savings of pushing those projects now vs. trying to hold back to lessen the impact on the citizenry,” said Reid Baker, Guilford County’s finance director.

The county has $512.3 million to issue in voter-approved bonds in coming years, he said.

With those bonds on the horizon, the load of debt that the county is planning to take on is unprecedented. The amount due in Guilford County before 2008 was $694.4 million.

Voters of Guilford County and Greensboro approved a total of $806.1 million in 2008.

In 2010, the county is expected to owe $1.1 billion in bond debt.

And since 2000, the combined referenda approved by Guilford County and Greensboro totals $1.5 billion.

“We had a honeymoon during that 10-year period,” Alston said, “and at some point you’ve got to pay the piper.”

Often, the argument that politicians use when they choose to put a bond referendum before voters is that residents can make the best decision for themselves.

But can an informed public truly expect to understand the intricacies and details of government spending and municipal bond markets? What about the way in which a bond that passes affects the property tax rate?

“A counterargument would be that by not placing this type of decisions at the hands of the voter, you’re taking their voice away,” said Gregory Allison, a senior lecturer in public finance at UNC-Chapel Hill’s School of Government.

Local government has plenty of other ways to secure millions of dollars that don’t require referenda, he said.

That kind of financing, Allison said, can often lead to a public outcry.

“The presumption from the public,” he said, “is that the elected officials may be trying to do an end-line around the voters and committing them to something that (voters) don’t have a voice in.”

Because voters here have recently voiced approvals for hundreds of millions in bonds, Alston said it’s now upon elected officials to handle the details.

“The regular citizens, you know, don’t have the time or will,” Alston said, “and that’s what they elected us to do.”

News researcher Diane Lamb contributed.

Contact Gerald Witt at 373-7008 or gerald.witt@news-record.com

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WHAT THIS MEANS

Greensboro voters passed $155 million in bonds in 2008, and Guilford County voters passed $651.1 million. With a bond referendum ahead, along with the possibility of fast-tracked city bond issues, here’s what the property-tax effects of those bond payments would be for the owner of a $200,000 home, assuming that neither the city nor the county cut projects or elsewhere: Greensboro: $35 Guilford County: $114 If the science center bond passes: $11.68

HOW BONDS WORK

Municipal bonds allow a government to take on projects whose costs exceed the cash on hand, similar to a loan that individuals get from the bank for a car or house that’s paid back with interest.


When it’s time for a city or county to ask for municipal bonds, just as with personal bank loans, the credit rating is first considered. Then investors buy into those bond packages through markets with the promise of a monetary return over time.
In a bank loan, the collateral can often be a house or a vehicle. For a municipal bond, the collateral is the government’s ability to collect and raise property taxes.

 

NATURAL SCIENCE CENTER BOND
What: A referendum on the ballot for the Nov. 3 election to renovate and expand Greensboro’s Natural Science Center
Amount: $20 million
Additional cost to taxpayers: $800,000 annual debt load on city budget; an estimated $11.68 on the annual property tax bill for the owner of a $200,000 home, if the entire $20 million is borrowed at once
What the bond would provide: An expanded zoo area, a new aviary, a new aquarium, an upgraded theater, renovation of older exhibit spaces and a restaurant

 

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batshalom

October 25, 2009 - 9:03 am EDT

I'm not sure HOW it happened, but back in 1997(ish) the voters voted on bonds to go to the Natural Science Center but later the city decided to use that money elsewhere. If you're going to vote yes for bonds for specific items, make sure that you know the money will actually get where you want it to go.

ravencottage

October 25, 2009 - 9:18 am EDT

Betcha lots of folks who voted for these bonds never once realized they would be getting the bills for them!

kurts12gauge

October 25, 2009 - 6:07 pm EDT

I disagree. I bet those who voted for it arent even taxpayers at all. Theyre probably renters and/or public transit riders.

kikablue

October 25, 2009 - 7:01 pm EDT

kurts12gauge, why don't you put the 12 gauge where your BRAIN is supposed to be. A lot of PUBLIC TRANSIT RIDERS are also home owners,and taxpayers. Wise up you are not the only person living in Guilford County, or Greensboro. I feel it's wrong simply due to the state of the economy as it is at this time. The money should be put to better use. By taxing the taxpayers constantly on everything the city council decides it wants, they had better realize they are going to tax Greensboro, and other areas of Guilford County into a Ghost Town.

Illiterati

October 25, 2009 - 9:36 am EDT

It's been said before, but it bears repeating: The term "bond" muddies the reality for most voters that this is an increase in debt for the city and an increase in voters' property tax bills. Ballots should make clear—in very clear language and dollar amounts—that by voting yes to a bond, the voter is agreeing to pay more money out of his or her own pocket.

Regardless of the feel-good aspect of the project, when property taxes become too high, it becomes harder to attract new residents to a city or to sell your home in high-tax areas.

Considering the county's looming property tax increases laid out in this article (and renters, this affects you, too, in the form of increased rents), we must vote no on the Science Center bond.

Beachwalk

October 25, 2009 - 11:58 am EDT

Well said illiterati.

jhurley

October 25, 2009 - 10:07 am EDT

I think that the Natural Science Center is a great thing to fund with a bond and hope that voters will pass this one. I usually vote 'No' on bonds if I don't agree with them, but this is one I"ll vote 'yes' on every time!

Beachwalk

October 25, 2009 - 12:02 pm EDT

A vote "Yes" for the NSC bond is also voting to have a CONTINUED tax increase every year from now on.
Who will pay to maintain this new expansion and who will pay for the extra employees needed to run and maintain the new expanded NSC? Anwser: YOU WILL. More tax will be required EVERY year to run this "new" white elephant.

tghdobro

October 25, 2009 - 12:22 pm EDT

With all due respect, your statement and assumptions are false. The percentage of the city's operational support since the Science Center privatized in 1989 has gone from 100% to 25% thanks to the private sector. Facts are important when making such statements. The Center already has a business model that will continue this trend through the expansion. You can verify this fact with the city finance department. All bond dollars will be paid back through positive economic impact and tourism-driven spending. This is why both conservatives and liberals on city council voted 'yes' and why the NSC has been endorsed by all of the major economic development oversight organizations in Greensboro. Thank you for your passion and concern as a citizen of Greensboro.

tledford

October 25, 2009 - 3:51 pm EDT

"Facts are important when making such statements."

You're new to this forum, aren't you? If you continue to participate you'll quickly learn that not only are facts UNimportant on this forum, but ridiculed and derided if those facts (or reality in general) conflict with the ill-informed assumptions and deliberate falsehoods *presented* as fact by many of the regular participants.

Still, it's the right thing to do, pointing out and illuminating GENUINE facts; even some of the regulars might eventually get a clue. Keep it up!

jeaniegnc

October 25, 2009 - 10:54 am EDT

I still believe it is wrong to allow people to vote on the bonds if they will not be helping to repay them. Since we have so many colleges in our area and most college students do not and will not help to repay these bonds, then they should not be able to vote on bonds. I am speaking about bonds only and certainly not voting in general. A large number of the college students are from other areas and when they graduate, they will leave Greensboro and Guilford County and we are left with repaying the debt. It is much easier to vote for a bond if you know it will not cost you anything.

Beachwalk

October 25, 2009 - 12:04 pm EDT

You are so right. It is wrong for college students to vote on these bonds. Send their mommys and daddys the bill, see how much they like it.

aintme

October 25, 2009 - 7:29 pm EDT

Ah, yes...the "I will never support a new tax on ANYTHING even when it betters my community" crowd. Get a clue, people. How could anyone not support a continuous TWELVE BUCKS a year on a $200,000 home for such an opportunity? This science center is a huge part of making Greensboro competitive with Charlotte and Raleigh in terms of tourism, attractions and quality of life. THINK CAREFULLY about whether you are willing to invest a single meal out a YEAR to provide this community with a chance to shine an already priceless gem that will sparkle even more brightly. I hope there are not so many of the "NO" crowd that they spoil it for the rest of us.

ravencottage

October 25, 2009 - 8:45 pm EDT

What utter bull. Lower taxes will do far more to attract newcomers and investments than a glorified wannabe zoo which after all this time cannot seem to totally support itself. Government spending at all levels is out of control and this is as good a place as any to say NO MORE!

friend1158

October 26, 2009 - 3:01 am EDT

Glorified Wannabe Zoo? I am sure that the many 1,000's of volunteer hours/yearly that are expended upon behalf of the community - the staff not withstanding - would appreciate such a shallow oberservation. The management and trustees of this establishment have a proven track record of prudent use of funds - whether they be private or public monies. From the perspective of one taxpayer who will be voting YES for this bond - in recent years a tremendous addition to this city and state has been established with very minimal output from public monies. Now is the time to invest in the future - the NSC has a proven ability to under promise and over deliver on our hard earned dollars.

tledford

October 25, 2009 - 9:37 pm EDT

Good effort, but some people, many of whom evidently are unemployed and thus have little to do other than hang out on these forums, will never get a clue.

Lakeshia

October 26, 2009 - 6:58 am EDT

Time to shear the mindless sheep again -

ravencottage

October 26, 2009 - 7:23 am EDT

Some of you are happy to have funds for the GWZ forcibly confiscated from all taxpayers. Why don't you also just voluntarily turn over an extra 4 or 5 hundred dollars every year? Then the GWZ can become really huge...oh wait...we already have a huge one just down the road also paid for by taxpayers.

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