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Four students suspended after fight

Tuesday, October 13, 2009
(Updated 3:50 pm)

GREENSBORO — The Guilford County Sheriff’s Office is investigating a fight at Northeast High believed to involve as many as 10 students. The fight came just weeks after an assault at the school left a deputy so badly injured that he needed surgery.

Four students were suspended after the most recent fight, which occurred about 8:30 a.m. Wednesday in the school cafeteria.

No student was seriously injured, Capt. Phil Byrd said, but criminal charges are likely.

It is unclear what provoked the fight, Byrd said, but because of the number of students involved, investigators are looking into whether it was gang-related.

The school resource officer, Deputy H.G. Reid, asn’t on campus at the time because he is recovering from knee surgery he needed after breaking up another fight on Sept. 21.

That incident involved two students in a class. A 14-year-old boy weighing about 200 pounds attempted to assault another boy, according to the sheriff’s office.

Reid wrestled with the student rather than use his Taser. Byrd said Reid hesitated because of outcry over the use of a Taser by a resource officer on a 15-year-old girl at Ragsdale High just days before.

“He second-guessed himself,” Byrd said. “There was so much controversy on the Taser.”

Reid eventually got the student under control. The student now faces charges of assault on an officer and disorderly conduct. The district declined to release his identity because he is a minor.

John Modest, the Northern region superintendent, said that student is on long-term suspension and faces expulsion.

A retired deputy is filling in for Reid while he’s out. But Byrd said the deputy is available only during lunch hours and when students board buses at the end of the day.

Problems typically occur during those hours.

“That’s about all we can really do right now,” he said.

The fights do not appear to be related and there are no patterns indicating a rise of violence at the school, Byrd said.

There were no assaults resulting in serious injury or assaults on staff reported by the school last year, according to data released by the district last week.

Northeast principal Anitra Walker declined to comment.

Modest said he isn’t aware of other students the sheriff’s office might be investigating in the most recent fight.

“The results of the (school) investigation came up with those four students,” Modest said.

 “But I know the investigation is ongoing.”
 

Contact J. Brian Ewing at 373-7351 or brian.ewing@news-record.com

Accompanying Photos

Margaret Baxter (News & Record)

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northoftheboro

October 13, 2009 - 7:01 am EDT

As stated in this article, a resource officer was badly injured in a previous fight at this high school because he feared a political backlash if he use his taser after the incident at Ragsdale. I hope anti-taser advocates, such as a certain race-baiting school board member who led the outcry against this self-defense weapon, will step up and accept responsibility for this officer's injuries and the continued violence that is occurring in Guilford County's schools.

J Peterman Reality Tour

October 13, 2009 - 8:15 am EDT

Its a black badge of honor when you confront the resource officer. Take away the officers tools and there are winners here. Black kids act like punks in our school, which by the way, isn't the baby sitter for them so get "empowered" colored folks with your kids and quit setting them lose "to act a fool" like wild animals in our schools.

I guess you didn't see the news and totally forgot about those "punks" in Chicago killing that kid for no reason . . .

Where is Deena H. in all this madness . . . faking some "violence doesn't exist in Guilford County Schools" report?

newjersey1

October 13, 2009 - 7:25 am EDT

i think how the kids in school act today is outrageous. they have no authority figures to control them, and they act like animals. the pricipals walk around with their heads in the clouds and ignore everything as not to tarnish themselves. i have seen this firsthand. the schools only report a small percentage of the crimes and fights that go on in the schools only so they may receive their funding. that's alot of crap. they do not do anything to protect these kids. maybe mr. superindentant ought to get out of his office and go around to the schools and see the mess he and the county have made of these schools and our children. all they care about is the end of year testing and the scores. screw you and the scores what about the kids? get the damn gang members out and start teaching the kids something to learn and take in the future with them. sorry ass guilford county school system. you used to be the best. now you stink.

DocF

October 13, 2009 - 8:06 am EDT

Now we have two officers injured at Northeast High School by students who were fighting. These officers should have taken the prudent course and used their Tasers. These people who are fighting in the schools are not kids working off excess energy, they are hoodlums pure and simple.

We must take more aggressive action to protect the good students and school staff or the hoodlums will take control of the schools. Screaming about injuring the little darlings is pandering to the lowest common denominator.

marjorie

October 13, 2009 - 11:06 am EDT

My child does not feel safe at all at NE and wishes the officers would have used their tasers! And it was more that 10 students involved!

chickenlittle02

October 13, 2009 - 11:23 am EDT

Where are all those "world-class schools" that were promised by the fat cats in the Greensboro Development Corp back when they shoved merger down our throats? News and Record..why aren't you holding THEM accountable?

EGParent

October 13, 2009 - 2:22 pm EDT

Haven't you heard...they are called
Grimsley
Page
Northwest
Northern

TAURUS88

October 13, 2009 - 8:19 am EDT

Thank you city residents. I remember when YOU all voted to merge city and county schools. County residents (95%) voted against the merger, but since it was a populus vote you got your way. Now our county schools are facing the same problems you had in the city schools while our achievment levels drop to match the city schools as well. Mission accomplished: 1. drop county grades to city levels-check 2. move at least half of the troubled kids to county schools to "disperse" the problem-check (dont believe this one? why do kids who can see Page High school from their apartments on Cone travel away, past NE guilford to attend at Eastern, and that is just one example) 3. take away corporal piunishment and replace it with empty hugs-check

tarheel19906

October 13, 2009 - 8:23 am EDT

When I was in school teachers was in control and students knew how to act responsibile or else they would get a few wacks of the paddle and sent back to class. We didnt ever have sro's and teachers was treated with respect and wasnt in danger. Heck I remember being afraid to skip lunch and go to McDonalds for fear of getting caught but in those days kids got a good education and was prepared for their next grade or step into life. But times sure have changed and not in a good way at all. Its time the system took a good look and remove the thugs who cause all the problems and/or hold their parents accountale for their actions. Whats happened to reform schools there used to be to deal with such trash in a way they could understand? Maybe its time people stopped trying to be so politically correct and deal with issues in a way the kids can understand. Some may say Im out of touch, but I coach appro 30 kids each year, ages 14 - 17 and see hundreds more so I know there is good in people. My daughter is a sr in high school and if it wasnt for myself and her mother pushing her, Im not sure she would be ready for college, because the teachers cant do it alone, parents have to be a key player in the solution since the admin in guilford county acts as if they dont give a damn, only there to draw a paycheck. Guilford county schools has gone downhill over the years but just look at the idiots who have been picked to operate and manage it.

Soccer Mom

October 13, 2009 - 8:25 am EDT

Unfortunately we don't know if the principal declined to comment because the district said not to? But this principal SHOULD have said, when given the opportunity, that violence and/or threats of violence will NOT be tolerated. Establish the culture. The district needs to enforce the consequences. Otherwise, your teachers and staff -- and other students -- are at risk every day this atmosphere is allowed to exist. Instead of spending all the district's money investigating athletics protocol, the district should be investing its time and money into making sure that all schools provide students and teachers with the very best, SAFEST learning environment possible. To do otherwise is simply negligent.

newjersey1

October 13, 2009 - 8:34 am EDT

i totally agree with everyone else on these comments. there is no need to bus in students from other areas to schools wasy accross town. is there a school where you live? then that's where you go. what kind of crap is theis redistricting? useless. the whole thing of fair learning and education for them is a real piss off to me. the good kids suffer with the wrath of the trash that is brought in. back in my day if someone gave you crap you knocked them on their ass and that was the end of it. fists not weapons as these ignorant bastards carry. and the resource officers are a joke. the real cops on the grounds are a joke. the staff is a joke because they have just given up on all the kids. what do they care they will retire and move on. the fossils working in the schools are just there because they are grandfathered in. maybe if they brought back the corporal punishment and rapped them a few times on the damn knuckles they'd learn to keep their mouths shut and have some damn respect for others. the whole GCS system sucks big time. i have sat in the halls and watched these animals act. they speak to teachers as they wish and have no respect. if my kid ever treated a teacher or another student with such disrespect they would have hell to pay from me, cause you damn well know the school isn't going todo a damn thing. maybe we all should look up the sexual battery cases and rapes that have occured in the old popular GCS that you don't hear about!! that will make your head spin. what happend to a good old fashioned food fight? get real people start watching your kids and teach them the right way to live. enough of the government funding you are receiveing and the whole bull that you don't get anything racism crap. all kids no matter what race have the issues. its up to the parents to teach them.

CarolinaBorn

October 13, 2009 - 8:40 am EDT

Truer words have never been spoken

marjorie

October 13, 2009 - 10:51 am EDT

You are so right ! The kids who give respect to their teachers and are in school to learn get lost in the behavior problems brought on by kids who's parents act just like they do ! I have seen it too waiting in the hallway of N.E.H.S.
The kids don't give a crap how they act . The more vulgar and loud they are the more attention they get!

camelz

October 13, 2009 - 8:50 am EDT

Agree with all of the above. SRO's are "the man" in the eyes of a certain percentage of the student population, and to confront "the man" improves one's "status". And the school officials (Hayes et. al.) bury their heads in the sand. School administrators can't even utter the word "gang". In an incident several years ago involving a family member, the principal at N.E. at the time commented that some of the students that ambushed my nephew and beat him pretty badly may have had some affiliation with some "community groups". I imagine that, had he actually used the word "gang", a bolt of administrative lightning would have zapped him.

SRO's deserve much credit for the jobs they do (along with hazardous duty pay) in the often hostile environment in which they preform their duties. They DO NOT deserve the criticism they sometimes receive for trying to do their jobs, using all of the resources at their disposal.

mamaboilermaker

October 13, 2009 - 10:05 am EDT

I, too have noticed statements like "students from different neighborhoods" and other such phrasing used when fights are reported. Does anyone know if the district has a policy that won't allow use of the word "gang?" I'm sure not all bad behavior is gang-related, but if it is, nobody should be under a gag order and have to call it "community organization."

turkey

October 13, 2009 - 9:18 am EDT

I teach and like every jobs it has its days. However most jobs do not have 14-18 year olds cursing them and being completely disrespectful for no good reason other than the teacher TRYING to do their job. I am a coach as well and I will be fired before I retire. Why you ask? Before a kid thinks he's going to treat me as if I don't deserve at least a little respect he is going to get from me what he doesn't get at home. I promise you most if not all of my students know that is the case with me and it helps. Sure enough when it all hits the fan with me and a student I will get in trouble for doing what needs to be done. I will also be fine with it......

notoriousBLOG

October 13, 2009 - 9:27 am EDT

I am shocked! You mean that these "children" didn't listen to our leader when he asked them to use school as a resource for learning. You mean that they won't listen no matter who is trying to talk to them? Well I just can't believe that! Perhaps they should be taught the "O'bama chant" and maybe they could be indoctrinated into an Acorn Chapter so that they could become useful and productive citizens. I was so in hopes that we would see change that we could believe in ........oh look, there's another flying pig.

marjorie

October 13, 2009 - 10:52 am EDT

you are a moron!

johnking

October 13, 2009 - 3:20 pm EDT

You right wingers are idiots. Just blame Obama for everything.

dallaslover

October 13, 2009 - 9:47 am EDT

You know notoriousBLOG, your comments are not helpful in the least to the conversation. Nobody is talking about Obama on this blog we are talking about the problems in schools and unless you want to come to my school or any other school in the country and volunteer your time, I suggest you get off of here and stop complaining about the President and start being proactive in the community.

I absolutely agree with you Turkey, I cannot believe on a daily basis the amount of disrespect I am expected to take from students. When I try to be proactive by callilng home to address the problem however, all of a sudden I'm the bad guy, not their child who cannot behave or show respect. We need more parents to step up and be proactive instead of blaming the teachers and schools for all the problems. Get your children in check! I do the best I can on a daily basis to come to school with a positive attitude and teach my students but some days the task is absolutely daunting. As for Deena Hayes, I bet she has never even stepped foot on a campus in guilford county to see with her own two eyes what the problems are, she would rather trust commissions to tell her.

notoriousBLOG

October 13, 2009 - 10:12 am EDT

dallaslover,I am so sorry that I offended you by bringing your anointed one into the conversation. I also find it very offensive that you take the liberty to try and rebuke me for what I said. If you can't stand someone who disagrees with you perhaps you should not participate in blogging. You are arguing the very same points that I brought up, but you are offended by my insulting your chosen one. Well, get a life, you are typical of the libs. You can never stand up to the heat of a real argument.

elaishaa

October 14, 2009 - 12:06 pm EDT

@ dallaslover i just wanted to say you are appreciated-I have volunteered at my kids schools and i know that you all have a very hard job-you have kids who have horrible home lifes and bring it to school and kids who are just bad for no reason-it takes alot of dedication to try and stay positive, Just wanted you to know as a parent i appreciate your hard work and i wish more teachers had your additude.

turkey

October 13, 2009 - 10:05 am EDT

Oh contraire DALLASLOVER,

Deena Hayes HAS stepped foot on a campus in Guilford County. I was there and ask any student that attended Southern Guilford in the school year of 1994-1995. She spoke during black history month and about started a riot by calling white men rapist and murderers etc. I wish I would have had it on tape to prove all the bad things that she said to stir up problems. So she knows the problems in our schools she just so happens to be one. Usually when you stink you don't know it until everyone else points it out. It is the norm for her so she of course thinks there are no problems in the schools. Also it would be too Politically Incorrect to state the obvious problems.

angie123

October 13, 2009 - 10:20 am EDT

Deena Hayes is pleased this morning and probably Amos Quick as well. The resource officer never used his taser on September 21 out of fear because of what happened a Ragsdale a few days earlier. Look what happened to him - injured enough by the student to require surgery, but at least the student wasn't stopped by the taser.

By the way, why did it take the N&R this long to report on the September 21 incident? The Rhino reported it immediately.

camelz

October 13, 2009 - 10:33 am EDT

Good question, angie123 - why DID it take so long? Had it not been for the incident yesterday, it would never have been reported.

But if the N & R reported ALL of the incidents that happened in the schools (particularly @ N.E.), they'd have to add another section to the paper.

marjorie

October 13, 2009 - 10:36 am EDT

The story reported and the real story are two different things! Of course Dr. Walker will not comment, what do you expect from someone that tries to cover up all the fighting that really goes on in Northeast High!

marjorie

October 13, 2009 - 10:39 am EDT

I alerted a school board member by e mail on Friday and they responded back yesterday not knowing the whole situation!

dallaslover

October 13, 2009 - 11:07 am EDT

Once again notoriousBLOG, you know not of the subject you speak. I do not like Obama and voted for Bob Barr, not him or McCain, however, I do know how to stick to relevant conversation which you obviously do not. Once again, the conversation is on schools, not politics

Voice of Reason

October 13, 2009 - 12:00 pm EDT

I keep waiting to read a response by a school board member, you know, like after the Ragsdale incident. Guess I'll not hold my breath. They're probably too busy eating crow to talk. That's ok, I can wait...

SRO's! Fire away! Don't fear using your TASERs! Your chief WILL back you up. Parents, if you don't want to see or hear about you kids getting tased, TEACH THEM TO RESPECT AUTHORITY AND THE POLICE. Yes, it really is that simple.

Garth

October 13, 2009 - 1:49 pm EDT

...CROW, roasted or baked, when, where, who's serving?

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