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A&T refuses to back concert

Wednesday, October 7, 2009
(Updated 2:41 pm)

GREENSBORO — N.C. A&T has removed its name and financial support from the university’s annual homecoming concert after complaints about hiring a gang-affiliated rapper.

With recent controversy about rapper Gucci Mane performing as the concert headliner , Chancellor Harold Martin  said the school had to take a “moral stand.”

“We could not replace Gucci Mane on the bill at this late date,” Martin said. “So we made the decision that we would remove our institution’s name from all advertising, all marquees, all tickets, and we would withdraw financial support from the show so that we would not be in any way, shape or form associated with his message or his image.”

With more than 8,000  tickets sold, the show will go on as planned Oct. 31. But now it will be put on exclusively by a production company, Diamond Life Concerts.

The Greensboro Coliseum has hosted the A&T homecoming show for 15 years,  said Andrew Brown , public relations manager for the coliseum . It also hosted Gucci Mane earlier this year at the annual SuperJam  show without incident, Brown said.

But Martin said the university’s concerns run deeper. “We felt this was something we had to do to protect our name and the values of our institution.”

The chancellor said A&T will be more mindful in choosing who it invites for its concerts, making sure that performers reflect the university’s values.

“I’ve really enjoyed the conversation that has been generated about this, and it’s the kind of conversation we need to be having more proactively,” Martin said. “We’ll continue to have conversations about who we are and what we value.”

Students began complaining about Gucci Mane’s participation in the show shortly after returning to campus in August.

The Atlanta rapper, whose real name is Radric Davis , is notorious for celebrating his gang connections and his past as a cocaine dealer. Songs include boasts about his connection to the Bloods street gang. His 2009  album “Murder Was the Case”  contains raps about drug dealing and violence, including songs like “Cuttin’ Off Fingaz”  and “Murder for Fun.”

Martin said the rapper’s music and message were not consistent with the image of A&T and were not the sort of thing that should be highlighted at homecoming, a time when the school welcomes back alumni, celebrates its history and showcases its accomplishments.

“I don’t think you need to support rappers coming here who are affiliated with gangs,” said Charles Melvin , an A&T senior  who said he won’t attend the show. “We’ve had some gang stuff going on around campus, so there’s no need to invite someone like Gucci Mane.

“There are so many better artists with good lyrical content and who can put on a real show, like Mos Def  or The Roots ,” Melvin said.

Each year, A&T’s Student Government Association conducts a poll to learn who students want at the homecoming concert. The SGA then works with Diamond Life Concerts  to choose the acts who will be invited. This year’s poll was on the online site Facebook; many students said they didn’t see it.

“I don’t really think students were involved enough in the decision in the first place,” said Katrice Monroe , a sophomore . “I feel like it’s just a small group of people who made this decision, and are now deciding to take our name off the concert after.”

SGA President Syene Jasmin , apologized for the booking in a local TV interview earlier this month. Some students criticized him for talking about Aggie business outside the campus, but Jasmin found support from a number of students and prominent alumni, including Martin and Greensboro Mayor Yvonne Johnson, who agreed with his position.

“I think you have to take a stand sometimes,” said Johnson, who got her master’s degree at A&T. “I frankly think the degradation of women and the promotion of illegal and dangerous stuff ought to be put down.”

Johnson said Martin’s decision to pull A&T out of the concert is an example of the principled, assertive leadership that Aggies expected of him when he was sworn in as chancellor in May.

“He’s not just talking the talk,” Johnson said. “He’s walking the walk.”

 

Contact Joe Killian at 373-7023 or joe.killian@news-record.com

 

Accompanying Photos

Photo Caption: Gucci Mane

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mocristy

October 6, 2009 - 6:30 pm EDT

I wonder why he was booked in the first place. It is not acceptable to book someone with such a negative rep for such a positive concert. I am proud of A&T for standing up and withdrawing their name from this performance. I went to undergad at A&T and am now in a Master's program here.

WaterBaron

October 6, 2009 - 6:58 pm EDT

Hats off to NC A&T University for disassociating itself from this gangster concert. It should not have been booked in the first place but at least NC A&T is doing the right thing now. Wouldn't it be nice if the students decided not to attend this concert? Why would anyone want to pay good money to see someone who believes that "murder is fun?"

Mike J Baron

Rocky

October 6, 2009 - 7:06 pm EDT

I'm also proud of NC A&T. Maybe Greensboro Coliseum should also look at whether this is the kind of performer we want in our city. With all the positive black artists, why bring in just another gangster.

Goodlook

October 7, 2009 - 2:36 am EDT

What is the Chancellor talking about Morals , when In past A&T homecommings Rap Artists have performed. When I went to A&T in 91 a basketball player was shot infront of the book store, as well as other Crimes so I guess they should have closed off the bookstore. Now I guess they are going to Ban the Colors Blue and Red from the Campus. Gucci performed in Greensboro numerious times and nothing Major happened pertaing to gang violence. WAKE UP CRIME IS EVERYWHERE. if they were scared of anything happening A&T should not have booked Gucci in the First place. its not like the Student body does not know who Gucci Mane is or his lyrics.

TOTHE POINT

October 6, 2009 - 11:56 pm EDT

To Mocrity, Water Baron and Rocky, I am very proud of you for taking the time to make your comments public and for taking the stance that you have taken. Rocky, I agree maybe the Greensboro Coliseum should take note and not book these types of concerts. What message are they sending when they contribute to this sort of group by booking them in their facility? Do they think this type of concert is what students at A&T want to see?

Goodlook

October 7, 2009 - 2:18 am EDT

Im an AGGIE and I personally thing the Student Govt. should be held accountable for their actions. From the Start Student body president, Syene Jasmin & and his chief of staff Gary Brown Should be Voted out or Resign from their Post of representing NC A&T. Im sure they knew before hand of Gucci's Lyrics. Gucci Mane has performed in the Area numerious times and I have never heard of anything major happening involving gangs or have I seen anything happen. I myself attended shows with Gucci & OJ and everybody had a good night out. This will be a major turn for All HBCU's. Homecomming concert has always been a tradition. NC A&T signed a contract and should be legally responsible for their Bad decision.

Kesh

October 7, 2009 - 10:20 am EDT

As a parent who monitors most of the things my children listen to and set standards without taking away their right to their own creative growth. I do agree with the decision that NC A&T has made. We as consumers hold so much power when it comes to things like this. We don't have to partake in things we do not agree with. I also think the Greensboro Colisuem has the right to book whomever they choose; whether it is Gucci Mane or a Gun Show. They are a business that profits off of the events that they book. However, like I said before if we don't like it we don't have to spend our money on it.

Kesh

October 7, 2009 - 10:21 am EDT

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mamaboilermaker

October 7, 2009 - 6:03 am EDT

Harold Martin is a man of intelligence and integrity. He is an able administrator and a terrific role model.If we could get school kids to look up to men like that, or to aspire to be, say, a Ronald McNair rather than a celebrity, that would be real progress.

VALawyer

October 7, 2009 - 8:42 am EDT

It's irritating to see Black people defending this type of music but then on the other hand they hold peace marches and demonstrations against violence in the community. This music is part of a culture that breeds the violence. And people wonder why there is so much violence in our communities. If you support Gucci Mane's music, the next time some stupid shooting happens to an A&T student, you have NO right to complain to the police or city leaders that they are not doing enough to stop the violence. YOU have helped to create this situation by supporting Gucci Mane's type of music! I bet a lot of Gucci Mane's fans attend church weekly, too. What a contradiction!!

histrion

October 7, 2009 - 9:08 am EDT

While I agree that both the A&T SGA and administration -- and especially the administration -- should be ashamed that they invited someone like Mane to participate in what *should* be a celebration of everything that's wonderful about their school, to dismiss it as something unique to African-American culture is both naive and basely insulting.

European and American cultures have glorified crime and violence for their entire histories, and preceding cultures did the same. Penny novels about the exploits of Billy the Kid, Jesse James, and their ilk sold like hotcakes back in the late 19th century. Gangster movies and pulp fiction were the rage during the Depression. This isn't just a problem in "Black America". People revel in escapist stories -- fictional or not -- about individuals that defy convention, social mores, and the law, just as they relish adventure tales like Tarzan or Indiana Jones, because it allows them to explore a dangerous and exotic world without actually having to put themselves at risk. It's called fantasy.

I'm not trying to excuse or apologize for folks like Mane. They make obscene amounts of money spinning tales of an ugly, warped world and glorying in its perversion. But they certainly aren't unique to one culture.

VALawyer

October 7, 2009 - 11:04 am EDT

Ah, "other people do it too" argument. Homicide is the leading cause of death for black college-age males in this country, who are 9 times more likely to die from homicide than their white counterparts. So there's no comparison to other races when we obviously have a more serious problem. In essence, you're saying that blacks and whites in this country have had the exact same histories and positions of power so it's appropriate to compare some old western novel character to a 21st century rapper who glorifies killing people. The problems is that Gucci Mane is not fantasy like Tarzan and Indiana Jones movies which require the viewer to suspend belief. It is a lot more realistic for young boys to become a Gucci Mane, which only requires you be black, a male, have a gun, and join a gang. To be Indiana Jones that male could still be black but he would have to earn a PhD. in archaeology and go to foreign countries looking for artifacts while fighting NAZIS. You can excuse it by saying other people do it too at your peril. All you're doing is defending the status quo by saying that it's OK to foster a culture of violence because all the rappers are doing is being just as bad as mainstream (white) society.

histrion

October 7, 2009 - 4:56 pm EDT

Read my post again, then comment. I think you only read what you wanted to.

ladyat09

October 7, 2009 - 11:56 pm EDT

VALawyer I don't necessarily support Gucci Manes music but as I stated in a post below an individuals actions is one of their owns not one heard through a rap song. I don't get how people blame music and television for everything that happens within America but I bet some of the same people who blame both music and television are the same ones who faithfully listen and watch it but now kids learn from their own parents and family members. If I were to put out a song referencing shooting someone or sexing someone that would be my artisty regardless of what another individual says and personally if you don't like it don't watch or listen to it and in this case don't attend the concert. As far, as A & T protecting it's image A&T has been labeled a 'party' school since way before I even thought about attending but its all about what you make it.

booBORO

October 7, 2009 - 9:25 am EDT

the city and the coliseum want to make money, they will welcome anyone they believe will do so. Also, A&T knew this rapper was signed and coming. They only started to turn their back when the outrage made front page. I wonder what the sit-in boys are thinking these days, Greensboro and the rest of the US heading down hill fast!

Wilhammer

October 7, 2009 - 9:30 am EDT

What the heck happened in Farmville, Va?

Is that University (and white goth kids) at fault for one of Longwood's faculty getting caught up in that situation that resulted in Mass Murder?

Of course not.

We have a horrorcore rapper (white) who decided to practice what he rapped about.

pragmatist

October 7, 2009 - 10:08 am EDT

Props to Chancellor Martin. Behold: a leader.

Wilhammer

October 7, 2009 - 10:14 am EDT

Indeed.

gsosteve

October 7, 2009 - 11:30 am EDT

I would have to agree with everyone. I currently work at A&T and have seen the positive strides they have taken to improve their image and the safety of the campus. Events in recent years have helped portray an image of A&T students as "those violent black kids". I personally see everyday the caliber of students on that campus, and such a stereotype does not fit. Chancellor Martin took an important step, albeit a little too late, in making sure that A&T takes a stance against the stereotype that plagues his institution. Goodlook, I hate to say it but you're wrong. This isn't about crime, the Chancellor isn't worried about anything happening at the concert. This is about preserving A&T's image. Lest we forget the events of the civil rights era that brought the institution to the limelight.

VALawyer

October 7, 2009 - 11:54 am EDT

I agree with gsosteve. All universities, including A&T, should be above the likes of Gucci Mane. Students are free to go to concerts with violent and drug-themed music that are not sponsored by A&T. I'm glad my alma mater's homecoming concert is headlined by Musiq Soulchild. He's not some exciting rebellious thug but at least his music is positive.

On the other hand, if A&T signed a contract with Gucci Mane they need to keep their obligation. The remedy is to either go ahead with the concert as planned and for the school to pay the agreed amount to Gucci Mane; or for the school to ask Gucci Mane to not perform but pay him the full amount. In essence, he would get paid for doing no work. But that's the risk you run when you form a contract with someone like this. If I was in charge I wouldn't have signed him, but I'm 30 years old and not some immature college student in their late teens/early 20's.

Goodlook

October 7, 2009 - 12:49 pm EDT

VALawyer I agree and im not making excuses for Gucci , but that is the bottom line if the Contract is signed they have to honor that agreement. I just know the Student Body Govt. Knew about Gucci lyrics before hand and now its a problem. I have worked with Gucci and his aunt Debbie and know Gucci is a good person bottom line. I have attended Every show Gucci has performed at and there was no Significant Violence at any show and not any violence with any gang activity which is the Problem.

willijs8

October 7, 2009 - 1:11 pm EDT

First, is A&T still legally responsible because of the contracts and everything that were already signed?
Second, someone name me one rapper that has not said and or done anything outrages (gangs, drugs, women, ego tripped, etc.) that has mass appeal and that a lot of people want to see. Heck even R&B singer. Remember its still about making money no matter how moral A&T all of a sudden wants to get. No one has said anything about Fabolous (he's not squeaky clean-Rollin, gold two seater\Stash in the dashHole through heaters\ Blockahhhhh put holes through beaters) hes talking about shooting someone. Dont get me wrong, I do not like Gucci Mane as a rapper, but don't single him out for a moral crusade all of a sudden. And please for our older folks, I can take it back and tell how even some of the old folks content was objectionable.
In short, I like the stance that is being taken, just not how they are making Gucci Mane look like he is the only person.

Last Example, Lil Wayne, and R. Kelly. They were At T and put on some of the best rated concerts. We all know what Lil Wayne does isn't always legal. As far as R. Kelly, hide your 12 year old daughters.

Enough said

ladyat09

October 7, 2009 - 11:41 pm EDT

I very much agree with you and your comment and only had to read a few lines. People are blind to these facts.

mydogcleo

October 7, 2009 - 8:34 pm EDT

Employees and students should remember that the citizens of NC are paying a large portion of their salaries and tuition. We welcome cultural diversity but not disrespect and indecency. As a taxpayer, I applaud the decision to seperate the NC university system from this artist.

gboro84

October 7, 2009 - 9:11 pm EDT

GSOSTUDENT Where are you? Wouldn't you agree that this is a travesty? A&T is brainwashing black students to turn against this prolific and influential black artist.

holland4

October 7, 2009 - 10:42 pm EDT

What's the deal with Gucci Mane's photo with his pinky finger? Is that a gang sign or is he showing us a booger?

ladyat09

October 7, 2009 - 11:39 pm EDT

As an alumni of A&T I'm greatly disappointed in A&T and not for booking 'Gucci Mane' as a performing artist but attempting to make the news in such a way. Each year A&T's homecoming concert has held performances from individuals who claim to have gang related ties for example 'Lil Wayne' & no one until now had serious concerns in regards to an rap artist having gang related ties. Individuals whom are GROWN have the sole responsibility of their actions & not a rap artist who releases a song. An individual in the street has more influence on the youth of our time then any rap artist and I feel people fail to realize that because they attempt to put the focus on other individuals. I'm not the biggest fan of 'Gucci Mane' as well as many other artists including artists whom songs are solely based on sexual advances but do we blame them for the rise in teen pregnancies probably not. When I used to tutor at an elementary school the things I heard one of the children say had to come from a parent or an individual and not from a song. I feel as if people she take a step back and let people be individuals and focus on themselves and their own children if they have any instead of blaming someone else for alleged gang related ties.

willijs8

October 8, 2009 - 3:05 pm EDT

Thank You, I totally agree. This is all I am saying. He isn't the first. Like I said earlier who else could they get?

QAIK.

October 8, 2009 - 7:05 pm EDT

The reality of the situation is that name removed or not, it is HOMECOMING! People are going to associate it with HOMECOMING because 1000's of people are in town for HOMECOMING. At the end of the day if something happens the news will still say "(insert issue here)... took place at the concert which was initially brought to Greensboro by A&T. Please believe that A&T will not have dodged a bullet (no pun intended) if something just happens to go wrong. Whew! Good thing we removed our name off of ticket # 8001. What type of research really needs to take place to know Gucci's "message"? I fail to believe that ANY student at a HBCU was COMPLETELY oblivious to GUCCI's music. Gucci has become pretty mainstream as of lately and we all know that the concert would consist mostly of radio hits. Everyone take cover under your seat because his part is coming up on "LOL :o)" I mean REALLY!? I'm not a huge Gucci fan by any means, but as others have stated, we have had plenty of other artists that could have been seen as questionable. As an alumnus, I love The Roots and Mos Def as much as the next person, but we all know that would then be an ALUMNI concert. 18 year old's do not want to listen to artists like Common considering many of them now even consider Jay-Z to be old. If you're not headlining Lil Wayne, Gucci, or Drake then you might as well have the concert on campus in Corbett to accommodate the handful of students in attendance. Everyone have a safe night, better planning next year!!!

maillarrym

October 8, 2009 - 11:33 pm EDT

WHY is everyone reaping “leader of the century” acclimates to A&T Chancellor Harold Martin and his Administration for “disapproving” of this “gangster rapper”? As an Aggie who was high up on the Student Government leadership chart many, many years ago—Student leaders could not commit to or sign off on ANY financial contract of greater than $999.99. Anything over that amount had to have the approval and signature of the faculty advisor (an adult instructor or administrator) AND the Vice Chancellor of Student Affairs—BEFORE receiving a final signature of the Vice Chancellor for Fiscal Affairs. Are you telling me NOW, that these students have the authority to spend $10 of thousands of dollars WITHOUT Administration INVOLVEMENT? I don’t believe that for ONE SECOND! Now since the PUBLIC has voiced its disapproval and concerns; all of a sudden this Administration rushes in to “save the day”! Give me a break! THE ADMINISTRATION KNEW WAY BEFORE LAST MONTH! This is just another example of the "hypocrisy of leadership" and Yvonne Johnson's judgment doesn't count--wasn't she one of the strongest backers of the late Rev. Michael King before abandoning ship once his financial boat took on "deep waters"? Greensboro has NO CREDITABLE black leadership. Self-Serving, Self-Centered, Self-Involved; maybe--but "LEADERSHIP"???

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