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Jail to cost $10 million less than anticipated

Wednesday, September 30, 2009
(Updated Thursday, October 1 - 7:33 am)

GREENSBORO — Guilford County commissioners got a surprise Wednesday when they found out the county will likely save nearly $10 million from the estimated cost of the new jail.

Balfour Beatty Construction, the lead contractor, told commissioners Wednesday that the new jail would cost no more than $84.9 million.

The cost was expected to be $94.5 million.

About $23.2 million of the work on the downtown jail will go to local contractors, an effort commissioners applauded.

The commissioners also appreciated hearing that more than 21 percent of the subcontractors are minority or female-owned companies.

“The percent of that participation is going to go up,” said Jimmy Anderson, Balfour Beatty’s project manager on the jail. As more subcontractors are hired on the project, he said, more of those will be minority-owned.

Local workers can learn about getting a job on the project at a job fair running from 9 a.m. to noon Oct. 10 at Hairston Middle School.

Except for some specialty jobs that jail construction needs, most of the project’s money will stay nearby.

“A majority of it is (subcontractors) in North Carolina,” said John Duke, Balfour Beatty’s superintendent for the Guilford County project.

The proposed price — the contractor assumes the risk for cost overruns — will go to the full Board of Commissioners today for a vote. If approved, construction will begin in early November, Duke said.

Guilford County voters approved a $115 million bond referendum for the jail in 2008 to supplement the county’s current, crowded jail.

Complaints of crowding at the jail have been going on for years in Guilford County, and part of the

$115 million referendum will go to renovating the existing downtown jail once the new jail is open.

That portion will cost about $5 million, said commissioners Chairman Melvin “Skip” Alston.

What will happen to all the extra money approved in the referendum?

“We’ll have to figure that out,” Alston said.

 

Contact Gerald Witt at 373-7008 or gerald.witt @news-record.com

 

Accompanying Photos

File photo (News & Record)

Photo Caption: Inmates at the Guilford County jail.

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stafford5465

September 30, 2009 - 5:22 pm EDT

They can pat themselves on the back that they are saving the taxpayers money. It is the oldest game in the books. Estimate high, so you have a lot of extra money to buy goodies. The Board of Education is doing the same thing. We are suppose to give the praise for coming in under budget. The BOE built in a 15 percent annual inflation rate. The actual inflation rate is about zero. In the last four months the price of structural steel has dropped 20 percent. What will happen to the extra money?

Get the facts

September 30, 2009 - 7:11 pm EDT

It seems your comments imply Sheriff Barnes has been something other than honest. To refresh your memory he has been elected numerous times by the people of this county and if they are electing dishonesty then we must be a bunch of fools. Now, to get your facts straight, capital expenditures such as building a jail are done by a bidding process. This means the lowest responsible bidder gets the job. There is no advantage whatsoever to estimating high and then building low. As has already been said, the weak economy has resulted in lower material and labor costs. When planning for this jail began, there was no way estimate costs except based on current values at that time.

Pro-Protection

September 30, 2009 - 6:20 pm EDT

Extra money?? There is no extra money. They might have saved some but its money they didnt have to begin with. It dosnt exist. Its a good start and now they should trim another ten million from it. Lets get rid of some of the things that prisoners shoudnt have to begin with. Give me the list and I will show you what needs trimming.

Get the facts

September 30, 2009 - 7:16 pm EDT

What things are prisoners getting that they shouldn't be allowed to? The jail was built almost 30 yrs ago and daily occupancy is approximately 20% over the intended capacity. So please share your infinite wisdom, as a taxpayer in this county, if you know of a better way I'd certainly be delighted to hear it.

Pro-Protection

September 30, 2009 - 8:47 pm EDT

Oh, You're one of those bleeding hearts that think they need color tv's and A/C. Of coarse it has to be inside a brand new multi million dollar facility. Get real! Maybe if jail wasnt such a cushy place, we wouldnt have so many repeat offenders. That's why it's overcrowded to begin with!
There is a sherriff in the state of Texas I believe that runs a tent city for prisoners. He has the right idea! You can check it out online if you want to but I dought that you will. My infinite wisdom says STOP spending taxpayer money on people that go against the rules of society. I really dont care if it gets a little crowded in there. 20% by your statement.

kamoore28

September 30, 2009 - 7:56 pm EDT

The extras include television and other items that make jails more like the Ritz Carlton then a jail cell. If there is any extra money it should be used to equip the jail with the latest and most appropriate technology needed to keep these inmates under control and staff safe like tasers, pepper spray and other like items instead of padding the county's coffers. However, I know any extra money will be blown by the county commissioners just like theGuilford County Board of Education has done with their money from the local, state, and federal government as well as bond money that has been approved. If you do not waste money then schools would be well maintained and not in constant state of disrepair and other programs could be funded.

Alberto

September 30, 2009 - 9:36 pm EDT

Anyone who is talking about how cushy the jail is has never been. It is a crummy place; to say anything otherwise is not accurate. Sometimes (most of the time) the comments on here are just absurd.

Pro-Protection

October 1, 2009 - 6:53 am EDT

In response to ALBERTO, I have been in county jail for a short period of time and it isnt as bad as you and many think. Nothing hard about it. If you really believe that its tough in there, you havent experienced it yourself and you have no idea what you are talking about or your just a big baby. I'm guessing that you have never been in a place or situation that was hard to survive in like Iraq or any war. (depending on your age).

82ndAllTheWay

September 30, 2009 - 10:56 pm EDT

I dont understand why everyone is so concerned about how nice the facility should or should not be. Look Alberto, you want to know what a crummy place is??? How about middle of nowhere village in Afghanistan, or Fallujah Iraq. Have you been there? Well i have and i didnt commit any crime! Granted i signed up to do this type of work, but i didnt have any luxuries. So why should inmates have ANY luxuries?! I dont like paying taxes like the next person in line, but i would rather those funds go to better roads, or schools, or scientific funding. Not a prison where, OH NO, somebody committed a crime and now they are in a "crummy place", we should build a new one, QUICK!!! You give up your rights when you cant obey simple laws...i.e. Dont kill, steal, hurt, rape, destroy, etc... Is there really a leg to stand on for these repeat offenders complaining about "crowding"? In my opinion, repeat offenders are nothing but willfully ingnorant. Fill it to 3x capacity.

MiMi

October 1, 2009 - 6:40 am EDT

There is a lot that goes on with the system that people are not aware of.....I know for a fact that the sheriff sent a deputy to stand guard on property which was trespassed on, broken into and items removed from it....and when 911 was called about this....I was told that I would have to call the sheriff's office about this....and then no one, I repeat, no one would tell me absolutely anything about this....they said "talk to an attorney"....and I did and everyone just swept this right under the rug.....so I am here to let you know....that a LOT goes on that people are not aware of....perhaps Barnes has been in office too long.....Greensboro definitely needs a change in leadership and protection.....the judicial system is able to keep things quiet....especially if no one talks about it....even the DA was contacted and again....he said get an attorney.....and the sad thing about getting an attorney....they DO NOTHING also....the try to drain people's bank account and do the least amount of work they can do....now I am sure there are a few good attorneys.....but they must be few and very far between....there is NO JUSTICE anymore....they just cover up things like this and hope they will go away.....in this case....this WILL NOT JUST DISAPPEAR.....what was done was wrong and those who allowed this to happen....know just how wrong this was....

westronandnan@aol.com

October 1, 2009 - 6:46 am EDT

The present jail is deplorable. It's an unfit place to work and an unfit, over-crowded place to house inmates, many of whom are merely awaiting trial and have been convicted of NOTHING!

As Diogenes walked the streets of Athens with a lantern looking for an honest man, I continue to work my way through these posts looking for a "compassionate conservative!"

RogerClegg

October 1, 2009 - 9:35 am EDT

It's hard to tell from the article whether the the percentage of contracts going to minorities and women is a result of preferential treatment or not. Of course, race, ethnicity, and sex should not be considered at all in deciding who gets awarded a contract. It's fine to make sure contracting programs are open to all, that bidding opportunities are widely publicized beforehand, and that no one gets discriminated against because of skin color, national origin, or sex. But that means no preferences because of skin color, etc. either--whether it's labeled a "set-aside," a "quota," or a "goal," since they all end up amounting to the same thing. Such discrimination is unfair and divisive; it costs the taxpayers money to award a contract to someone other than the lowest bidder; and it's almost always illegal—indeed, unconstitutional—to boot (see 42 U.S.C. section 1981 and comments we submitted to the Colorado DOT here: http://www.ceousa.org/content/view/655/86/ ). Those who insist on engaging in such discrimination deserve to be sued, and they will lose.

Gerald Witt

October 1, 2009 - 11:15 am EDT

Roger -
Good points, all of them. The construction method that the county chose was specifically to get those local, minority subcontractors in the game.
Their argument was that for something like the jail, the lowest bidder may not be the best bidder.
And those are their words, not mine, just to be clear.
This story may help explain: http://www.news-record.com/content/2008/07/09/article/commissioners_weig...

Also, another point for people to remember in this discussion: the jail primarily holds people who have be accused - not convicted - of committing a crime.

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