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N.C. A&T headliner drawing criticism

Wednesday, September 30, 2009
(Updated Thursday, October 1 - 7:34 am)

GREENSBORO — N.C. A&T’s Homecoming celebration draws thousands to Greensboro every year — students, alumni, families and music fans who want to see the hottest names in R&B, hip-hop and rap.

But this year’s celebration is also drawing controversy.

At issue: Gucci Mane, a headlining rapper at the event whose lyrics center on drug dealing, violence and his ties to the Bloods street gang.

University officials said they began hearing complaints earlier this month from students worried about the rapper representing A&T at homecoming. But by then, contracts were signed.

“After the contracts are signed, it’s very difficult for us to come back and say there are concerns,” said Sullivan Wellborne, the school’s vice president for student affairs.

Wellborne said students were surveyed at the end of last semester about who they would like to see at homecoming this year.

That list went to the student government association’s executive board. The lineup was determined with assistance from Diamond Life Entertainment, the production company helping stage the show at the Greensboro Coliseum.

By the time students came back to school and the administration began hearing complaints, more than 5,000 tickets for the Oct. 31 event already had been sold, Wellborne said.

But Tuesday night, Travis Jackson, the Student Government Association’s vice president for external affairs, said the student survey had gone out on the online social networking site Facebook — something many students felt was well short of an actual poll.

Money from student fees, along with money from the production company, pays to bring artists for homecoming. The Saturday night shows often include some of the biggest names in music.

This year’s bill includes R&B artists Trey Songz and Keri Hilson , rappers Fabolous and OJ da Juiceman .

Rapper Gucci Mane has drawn the most attention. His 2009 album “Murder Was the Case” includes songs such as “Cuttin’ Off Fingaz” and “Murder for Fun.”

He was charged with murder in 2006, but the charges were dropped for insufficient evidence days before his debut album hit stores. He has been a lightning rod for criticism because of his lyrical boasts about drug dealing and gang ties.

SGA president Syene Jasmin publicly apologized for booking the artist in an interview with a local television station earlier this month. That brought criticism from his fellow students at Tuesday night’s SGA meeting, where he was accused both of not involving students in the booking and of making A&T look bad by being interviewed on the subject.

Jasmin largely stood his ground, saying he still believes the artist could hurt A&T’s image but agreeing he and his chief of staff could have handled the booking and the controversy better.

“We all have different tastes in music,” Jasmin said. “There is no way everyone would have been satisfied. But by talking about it and saying what I said, I was addressing concerns from the students, our constituents.”

Tyrane Perry, a sophomore at A&T, said there is a tension on campus between choosing artists with positive messages and bringing in the biggest names to draw the largest crowd.

“I believe we should be more conscious in who we choose, and realize they are representing our school at homecoming, whether we think about that or not,” Perry said.

“But at the same time, it’s hard to say who you could have who would be totally positive in hip-hop right now. The majority of the students are listening to what’s hot, and right now that’s Gucci Mane.”

A&T officials said Tuesday the concert will go on as planned.

Carlyle Phillips, an A&T junior, said he thinks Jasmin was right to address concerns about gang affiliation, especially on a campus where two students have died in shootings since 2008.

“I know when I get to the homecoming, I don’t want anything to happen to me either or to my friends or anyone there,” Phillips said. “But it’s true that on campus, people like Gucci Mane. The question is: Do you know it’s just music? It’s just lyrics. Some people can’t separate fantasy from reality.”


Contact Joe Killian at 373-7023 or joe.killian@news-record.com

Accompanying Photos

Photo Caption: Gucci Mane

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Gso Resident

September 30, 2009 - 6:27 am EDT

How we got from "My Cherie Amour" to this -----I don't know ??

I read that the KKK lynched 1958 black persons over 144 years. A tragedy of course.

I believe over the last 10 years blacks have murdered over 30,000 of their own people and all the black community / A&T can say is "give me more" ?

What a disgrace......!

J Peterman Reality Tour

September 30, 2009 - 7:59 am EDT

. . . those ignorant of thier own race genocide . . . are doomed to repeat it. I have always advocated to my clients to avoid homecomming week in Greensboro.

Are thugs, pimps and criminals the only ones that have true merit at A&T?

notoriousBLOG

September 30, 2009 - 7:08 am EDT

NICE JOB A&T. Keep up the good work of educating these young minds to the same hatred and continue the murder and violence at the campus. Garbage in, garbage out. Really good choice, I guess I'll go on vacation that weekend so I'm not in the line of fire.

Nothingbutthetruth

September 30, 2009 - 7:14 am EDT

Gso ResidentSeptember 30, 2009 - 6:27 am EDT
How we got from "My Cherie Amour" to this -----I don't know ??

I read that the KKK lynched 1958 black persons over 144 years. A tragedy of course.

I believe over the last 10 years blacks have murdered over 30,000 of their own people and all the black community / A&T can say is "give me more" ?

What a disgrace......!

I do agree the murder rate in the black community is awful. But as for Your (I read that the KKK lynched 1958 black persons over 144 years.) you are soo wrong and not informed. Millions of African-Americans died in route from Africa to the United States.Many died from the conditions on the ships, diseases, lack of food, or being raped and/or beatened to death on the ships. Hundreds died due to the harsh and violent conditions on the plantations. Others were hunted for sport. Yes, the KKK did lynced alot of African-Americans. But not as much as the averican American White citizen/s. I found this very easly online. If you had bother to really look, so would have you.

bigwill

September 30, 2009 - 8:35 am EDT

Since you have brought up this subject, African American families sold their own people out to the "American White citizens" from Africa. Not that I am saying what was done in the past was OK, but who is really at fault here? How come Rap music seems to always be about murder, drugs, or just negative in general. I use to listen to it myself, but it just started to sound so stupid and idiotic. "Yo-Yo-Yo, I make millions of dollars a year and my crib is huge, but Im still a thug and I'm going to shoot you", how immature is that. You finally better your life for yourself, but yet you still live ghetto and childish. Wow, how cool is that.

truth

September 30, 2009 - 9:16 am EDT

bigwill,

Are those actual lyrics? If not, you might have a future in rap. They're actually pretty good.

MalikKhalidBranch-Bey

September 30, 2009 - 7:54 am EDT

It's so sad how A&T is going down hill with that taste they have in promoting Home-Coming concerts. You bring a person who was brought up on murder charges and who also promotes gang violence to perform. Knowing good and well that he is representing A&T by advertising him as your headliner. That's a black-eye for you A&T. Shame on you A&T. Shame on you. It just goes to show you the taste that young African Americans have in what's right and wrong in their culture........NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

voice-of-reason

September 30, 2009 - 8:24 am EDT

nothingbuthetruth

I somewhat agree with you on the history of the African-American community except for one thing. Guess who supplied the slaves from Africa? African people. They sold their own people into slavery. That was wrong wrong wrong. It was about supply and demand. We can gripe and complain but we need to accept the past even if it was wrong, immoral etc. We grow from it and learn from it. As my high school history teacher (African-American, one of the smartest persons I knew as a teacher) once said, "Those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it".

In most communities (good example is High Point), the African-American community (most not all) know there has to be strong commitment from their own to turn their community around. There is strong cooperation between the police and the community. Every person is held accountable for their actions. We're in 2009, not everyone is a racist or a hater. Ignorance is still around, always will be. It's up to the community as a whole to "police" their own, educate between right and wrong, set a moral compass, etc. Maybe one day our society as a WHOLE will be better. African-American, Anglo-Saxon, whatever title we want to give one another we all need to grow and then maybe our society will be better.

CarolinaBorn

September 30, 2009 - 8:39 am EDT

Most people avoid the area when it's homecoming time. Having these character of people representing the event, as well as the general message that is being presented, is just more justification to those who see the event as something to be avoided.

Get it together A&T!!

AirDoc

September 30, 2009 - 9:04 am EDT

OK A&T students. Here's your chance to follow through with your concerns. Let your heart and your brain drive you on this. You have made your opinions known by voicing your displeasure with the thug booked for your homecoming event. What will you do now? You are off to the right start. Do you choose to let this one lie and fester or do you follow through and do what it takes right the wrong? It is in your hands. No other group has more say-so in this matter than you.

truth

September 30, 2009 - 9:19 am EDT

I'm disappointed with the choice of artist. Homecoming is more than just about what the current students are listening to. It's also about the alumni of the school that return year in and year out for homecoming. I think homecoming is overall a very positive experience and a festive time of year. I expect more from the folks at A&T than this garbage. It reflects negatively on the school.

wyricksells

September 30, 2009 - 9:23 am EDT

Way to go A&T....shame on you!!! Just remember students/alumni do not have to attend his concert but I'll bet you the coliseum will be packed!!

Tristar500

September 30, 2009 - 10:15 am EDT

“Cuttin’ Off Fingaz” and “Murder for Fun.”

Nice going A&T, you call yourself a university? What are you teaching?

Beachwalk

September 30, 2009 - 10:36 am EDT

What is everyone so surprised about? This is par for A&T.

REDDHOTT

September 30, 2009 - 10:52 am EDT

Wow why does the SGA's choice for a concert have to be responsible for history that was made so many generations ago? This is just another attempt to throw stones at a Black University. The fact is white kids will attend that concert also and they probably were some of the first to purchase one of the 5000 tickets. Dont be so judgemental to assume that ones past history will cause such physical harm to the ones that attend. Most musical artist that are making money have a controversal statement, thats what rap is about. It sells! Gucci Mane was not found guilty of murder. He was not found guilty of selling drugs. People we need to give our students more praise and not assume that attending a controversal concert (in ur opinion) will have a negative effect (as a whole) to the city of Gboro and our students. If you dont want to c the concert then dont purchase a tix. If you dont like what Homecoming represents then take a vacation. The problem is that Homecoming is going to continue as it has for many years. Your opinions r just that, ur opinions. It doesnt hold any water. Just a note to enlighten the readers. The deaths at A&T were not by students enrolled in the University but by outsiders. Crime can find u anywhere u are. Be more open-minded to what the word entertainment really is. Stop trying to police every action that young people do! They are young and this is there time of the year to shine. Instead of being a party pooper, pointing fingers in addition to just being ignorant lets support he University and the SGA. Leave the students alone and let them enjoy themselves! I am not a fan of Gucci, but I respect the fact that it is just entertainment! Lets not assume that "all" of A&T's students ignorant! Many of them know that hip hop/rap is just music to listen to and not instructions to live by.

Beachwalk

September 30, 2009 - 11:09 am EDT

REDDHOTT, you are so nieve. What if a country music artist wrote a song saying all blacks are lazy and stupid. Would you still say "Be more open-minded to what the word entertainment really is " or "it is just music to listen to"? Without a doubt if such a artist wrote such a song you would be saying (and rightfully so) that person was promoting racism. It maybe true that "Gucci Mane was not found guilty of murder." and "He was not found guilty of selling drugs." But do you not see anything wrong with him promoting these things through his music?

Illiterati

September 30, 2009 - 5:40 pm EDT

I've lived in gang-infested neighborhoods out west, and let me tell you, bud, music like Gucci's is highly representative of people's real lives, and thugs out there do take this music as "instructions to live by." This stuff isn't worth playing around with, and certainly isn't appropriate for a university function.

Also, how can anyone take seriously a dude who names himself after Italian leather goods? He's named after handbags!

nitty34

September 30, 2009 - 10:54 am EDT

The A&T Homecoming is an absolute plague on this city. I used to manage a bar on HP Rd. and I had trouble every year staffing for this event. People would request off 6 months in advance. Sales were fine, but:

No tipping.
Fights.
Walkouts on tabs.
Theft.
Damage.
And I can't tell you the number of times I had to listen to; "No, man. I bought this 24oz can of Icehouse at the BAR!"

We didn't sell those.

Just an all around terrible crowd. Funny thing is it wasn't the students - it was the posers who came to town for the party. It's the exact reason Myrtle Beach stopped their bike week. Same crowd, same results.

REDDHOTT

September 30, 2009 - 11:08 am EDT

"You all" (business owners) have a choice to open ur business and/or refuse service to anyone. It's nothing new! Everyone makes money off of Homecoming and will continue to do so in the future. Why stop discriminating now! But u made a valid point, most of the traffic is from outsiders and not University students. Again why blame A&T for putting on a fundraiser that will make money for the SGA. As soon as they ask the community for donations to fund there events it falls on deaf ears. Stop the hate. Provide better security at ur business for the weekend to police ur establishment .............................or take a vacation!

Beachwalk

September 30, 2009 - 11:15 am EDT

""You all" (business owners) have a choice to open ur business and/or refuse service to anyone."

That is not true. In Myrtle Beach when restaurant owners and hotel owners would close during "black" biker week (because of no tips, walkout on tabs, damage, etc.), the NAACP threaten law suits. They were forced to be open. Even though they were only trying to protect their business and workers. Undoubtabily the same would happen here, if owners closed during A&Ts homecoming.

REDDHOTT

September 30, 2009 - 11:18 am EDT

Those lawsuits were never brought to court! NAACP made threats! No one never took it that far! Investigate before you comment. I was at Bike week 2009 and many business were closed and many refused to serve people because they were understaffed. Were u there or is this something u read?

Beachwalk

September 30, 2009 - 11:28 am EDT

REDDHOTT
I'm sorry to tell you this, but you do not know what you are talking about. I own a condo at Myrtle Beach and I also know many business owners there. No law suits were brought BECAUSE of the THREAT of a law suit. Business owners could not take the chance of being sued and having to pay a high fine on a false accusation. And yes I was there. And I have been there during "black" biker week for the last 6 years. So I know exactly what I am talking about. You are the one who needs to investigate before you comment.

nitty34

September 30, 2009 - 11:39 am EDT

Beachwalk: I, too, own property in Myrtle. South Myrtle, to be exact, which thankfully kept me away from most disturbances during the black bike week.

The business owners and the city were threatened with a nationally-exposed lawsuit, once the NAACP found out that each year, more and more businesses closed shop during that week. In order to be 'fair and balanced', they eliminated ALL bike weeks. Sad, because the Harley week was a huge stimulus to the economy.

It's not about color. It's about the mindset. The Harley riders I met, both white and black, were content to cruise slowly, gun their engines, and enjoy the beach weather. The speed bike riders (which is what black bike week was primarily comprised of), both white and black, whipped in and out of traffic, sped excessively, and generally were frowned upon. Not based on the color of their skin, but moreover on their ignorant behavior.

A golf buddy of mine who is a CRNA at a MB hospital told me several years ago that there were usually 10-15 serious, sometimes fatal bike crashes during black bike week. During Harley week, he remembered 1 over a 10 year span.

Who's acting foolish? You decide.

Beachwalk

September 30, 2009 - 11:57 am EDT

You are exactly right, It's not about color. I would actually say the majority of problems during (black) Bike Week was more because of the younger age. The Harley riders are generally a more mature age. But the fact remained there were always many more problems during Bike Week than there were during Harley Week. The NAACP are the ones who were making it a race issue. Businesses that closed were only trying to protect their business and workers. It had nothing to do with race.
Unfortunately as you are probably well aware, Myrtle Beach has had to raise taxes just to make up the difference of not having the revenue from Harley week. Thanks to the NAACP everyone loses. No longer will Myrtle Beach support Harley Week or Biker Week, therefore bikers no longer are welcome, therefore Mytle Beach loses the revenue, therefore they have to raise taxes.

nitty34

September 30, 2009 - 12:51 pm EDT

No kidding.

Ahd how about the insurance hikes recently? My flood insurance is up to nearly 10K a year. That's insane. When I bought the house in '94 it was a third of that.

Beachwalk

September 30, 2009 - 1:18 pm EDT

Tell me about it.
I'm on our condo HOA board and we have had to have an assessment for the past 3-4 years just to make up the short fall for our insurance. Hopefully this year insurance should stay about the same. If there is an increase it shouldn't be more than about 3%. At least that is what we are being told for now.

nitty34

September 30, 2009 - 11:33 am EDT

True, the businesses could close and face the wrath of a blatantly racist Greensboro city government. But that fact is a different argument...

WHY would the city and the school allow and support a function that brings this demographic into our town? There were just as many people on High Point Rd. when the ACC tournament was held at the coliseum, and believe me, NO problems - whatsoever - during those long weekends. Places were packed, people were spending money, no theft, no damage, no fights, no issues.

Business owners should not be forced to close down or even to consider that choice. The city has a responsibility to those who choose to set up business here. I can promise you, coming from a former business owner on HP Rd: does the Homecoming crowd spend money? Yes. Is it worth it? NO. "Close your doors!" you say. And upon doing so, immediately be labeled a racist, regardless of facts.

Tristar500

September 30, 2009 - 11:02 am EDT

No wonder a degree from A&T is considered worthless in the business world.

RandolphBloke

September 30, 2009 - 1:11 pm EDT

I think the choice of performer is digusting.

That said, where are you getting your facts Tristar500? I've seen many people from A&T do well. So would you mind linking to your stats or is this just your personal assumption?

Tristar500

September 30, 2009 - 8:06 pm EDT

Well Randolh I agree with you on one point, the choice of performer is well, disgusting, surprising, no, disgusting yes!

Seriously, do you honestly believe a piece of paper from A&T carries even a fraction of the weight as one from UNCG, Guilford or even GTCC?

As another poster mentioned, the entire campus with few exceptions is made up of buffoons and the inept.

No wonder race relations haven't improved much in this city, even the black who go to "college" at A&T are no better equipped to contribute to society much more then their gang banging buddies.

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