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Big titles on list of layoffs at UNCG

Tuesday, September 22, 2009
(Updated 7:26 am)

GREENSBORO — When UNCG released its new list of prospective layoffs last week, it wasn’t the number that was shocking.

The surprise was how many of the eliminated positions began with “director,” “associate provost” or “assistant vice chancellor.”

UNC President Erskine Bowles this summer asked the system’s 16 campuses to cut their budgets by 10 percent, reflecting less state support. Legislators made it clear they wanted the bulk of those cuts to come from middle management and administration. At UNCG, that will mean dozens of directors, managers and other administrators following low-level assistant and adjunct professors out the door.

Chancellor Linda Brady said although the cuts will lead to more work in many administrative offices, they were necessary.

“All of our permanent reductions have been from administration, not from the academic side,” Brady said. “It’s what we’ve had to do to protect our classrooms.”

According to documents submitted to UNC General Administration, the cuts — which also include reductions in and the elimination of some centers and institutes — will shave $6.9 million from the school’s budget.

Brady said 49 of the 65 positions to be eliminated are currently filled. Sixteen are vacant or will be funded without state money.

All the positions are administrative, and 43 percent are middle management. Nine positions with “chancellor” or “provost” in their titles will be eliminated.

Among those on the block: the school’s assistant director of admissions and the directors of the Office of Adult Students and of Student Affairs. The school’s Center for Critical Inquiry in the Liberal Arts and Interdisciplinary Center for Obesity Prevention also will be eliminated.

Brady said she hopes the cuts would make the school’s administration more efficient. She rejects the idea that UNCG’s administration is bloated and needs to tighten its belt.

In a strongly worded letter to Bowles, Brady said her school doesn’t have a larger number of senior and middle managers than other UNC schools or their national peers.

The school’s administration has grown with its record enrollments, Brady said, but more students are being served by fewer staff members than in 2005.

“A lot has been made of the fact that between 2005 and 2008, UNCG went from having 33 positions with 'chancellor’ or 'provost’ in the title to 51,” Brady said Monday. “But if you look at those 51 positions, only one of those was actually a net new hire. The rest were the result of renaming existing positions.”

Brady said UNCG began renaming existing positions — transforming “directors” to titles such as “assistant vice chancellors” or “associate provosts” for instance — because other institutions did.

Such a title bump might come without extra pay or responsibilities, Brady said, but its cachet is important in academia.

But some of the middle managers targeted for layoffs said they feel the school’s renaming of their positions made them targets after years of service to the school.

Reade Taylor, vice chancellor for business affairs, said a change in title can be a reward for a job well done when few others are available.

“Frankly, it’s something you can do for someone that

makes them feel good and doesn’t cost you anything,” Taylor said.

“If you know there isn’t going to be a raise that year, sometimes that new title can be important.”

Contact Joe Killian at 373-7023 or joe.killian@news-record.com 

Accompanying Photos

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Photo Caption: UNCG Chancellor Linda Brady

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TerryT

September 22, 2009 - 6:22 am EDT

Eliminating these “chancellor” or “provost” jobs now, means they were not needed in the past. They we just titles with no real purpose. Now people that teach, clean, fix, cook etc. that actually produce something are the important jobs. To the others getting the ax go milk someone except the tax payers. Take Brady and Bowles with you.

histrion

September 22, 2009 - 10:49 am EDT

Wow, is that ever a bold statement. So if your company lays you off, it's because you weren't needed in the past? That you served no purpose? Get a grip. Many of these folks serve critical roles within the university. Sure, there's administrative fat that can be cut. But they're largely letting these folks go for purely political reasons: folks like you made a snap judgement without examining the facts, Bowles bowed to the pressure of public opinion, and now a bunch of talented and dedicated leaders are going to be joining the ranks of the unemployed.

Killing their position simply means either other folks will have to pick up the slack or programs will have to be cut. We can debate whether or not those programs were needed or worthwhile, but don't just assume these folks were wasting money and space. That's both naive and unjust.

Paul Daniels

September 23, 2009 - 11:54 am EDT

Histrion:

There are difference in bureaucracies and private enterprises that you have completely discounted. Firms, almost without exception, are in business to make profits. They hire workers when they believe that the marginal cost of hiring that worker is less than the marginal benefit (i.e. profit) of hiring that worker. Firms grow by being efficient and by giving the public what it wants in terms of goods and services. (Econ 101). When demand for their services or goods decreases, firms do the same calculations: do the costs of retaining an employee exceed the benefit of retaining the employee? If the answer is no, i.e., the productivity of the employee, all things considered, does not justify his continued employment.

Bureaucracies don't care about profits or loss, or even much about the productivity of workers (if you doubt this, just stroll through a government agency some time While there are a lot of good, hardworking public employees, public employment typically has also been a haven for people who simply are looking for a steady paycheck). Government is the only entity that I am aware of that uses the term "non-essential employees". Non-essential employees at businesses typically don't stay around long. Moreover, bureaucracies don't measure their success in terms of profitability, but rather size and budget. (Again, if you doubt this, just look at the squabling that goes on between government entities when it comes to budget time). The bigger your budget, the more important you are, regardless of outcome. For more on this see health and human services which has pumped trillions of dollars into LBJ's Great Society, with no noticible impact.

There is not much of cost/benefit analysis that goes into hiring public employees; it is more like what does our budget allow given our mission. These are philosophical decisions, not accounting decisions. Indeed, as we have seen, the number of U.S. Government employees has increased dramatically even as the economy, and the tax base used to pay the salaries of those employees has fallen drastically.

9mmjustice

September 22, 2009 - 6:55 am EDT

What about the Office of Diversity and Feel Goodness that was in the works?

9mmjustice

September 22, 2009 - 6:58 am EDT

A cursory drive down Spring Garden Street would seem to indicate that the Interdisciplinary Center for Obesity Prevention should probably stay in place.

Norm*

September 22, 2009 - 6:59 am EDT

My only concern regarding the reaction to the economic downturn by our public educational institutions is the effort to make them shrink. Meanwhile, any business that expects to survive this current economic environment is working on plans for growth and change. The true winner will be the ones that were capable of creating new and different variations of themselves that fit the needs of their customers. All evidence points to a growth in demand for educational institutions. It won't be the teachers, cooks (oh, they're outsourced and not state employees) and maintenance folks who work to study, create, and serve as stewards for measurable change and growth of an institution of higher education. UNCG has served Guilford county and the state of North Carolina well, returning on the money invested on all levels. The short sighted belief that our economic ills are because we've built large (successful, service-oriented, good job creating) institutions just doesn't make much sense.

sir william

September 22, 2009 - 9:58 am EDT

As Sienfeld puts it- "THAT'S A SHAME"!! LOL!!

thomassw

September 22, 2009 - 10:22 am EDT

To some it seems that the people losing their jobs in the cuts somehow 'deserve' their fate. I would say that most if not all have worked hard to get where they are, that state jobs do not pay extremely high wages at this level, and most if not all have homes and families that depend on their income to make ends meet. In this job market, they will have a tough time finding a new position.

whyus

September 22, 2009 - 10:55 am EDT

IT's ABOUT TIME! Real, for profit businesses have been laying off folks for a couple of years to appropriately manage during this fiscal crisis. Hopefully UNC will be next as if you recall from a previous News-Record article they had 11,000 complaining employees to cover 30,000 students. What business in the world would have 1 employee to cover 3 customers?!

histrion

September 22, 2009 - 11:34 am EDT

To be fair, I believe UNCG employed around 2,500 full-time staff and faculty -- before the several rounds of cuts they've already completed. Most of their part-time employees are students, and they've already shed a large number of those positions to cut expenses (cutting one of the most valuable learning opportunities they'd offered their students).

Of course, I think their student population's more like 20k, not 30k.

Norm*

September 22, 2009 - 11:32 am EDT

Your comment addresses some of the differences between public and for-profit institution. The shame of lay-offs is that the assumption is that the business was not growing in customer base or level of services provided. People were unproductive. The exact opposite is occuring at the state universities and public schools. Their customer base is growing and they are trying to develop more extensive programs that will serve the long-term interests of North Carolina. I would have thought that folks in this region would have a more enlightented perspective of lay-offs considering the loss of large portions of the furniture and textile industry to foreign production, not a lack of business, but a focus on profit for stock-holders and management. The thought that we want our government to emulate current corporate ethical practice is a frightening thought.

tonymo

September 22, 2009 - 11:42 am EDT

I generally feel sympathy for anyone who loses their job, but in the case of our, our almost all, far too liberal,colleges and universities, I have a tough time ginning up that sympathy. It has been the leftist professors who have indoctrinated pliable young minds to believe that this is a bad country, that there is moral equivalence between Israel, and the terrorists that TARGET school buses, and wedding receptons, that global warming is a PROVEN fact, that diversity excludes diversity of OPINION, that it is fine to have free speech ZONES on college campuses, which are SUPPOSED to be places where there is a diversity of ideas, and an open exchange of ideas. Right!

There is so much more damage these people do, but space prevents a full accounting. We would be much better off closing most of these left wing indoctriantion camps in favor of TRADE and TECHNICAL schools where people can actually be trained to be useful and contribute to society. I would exclude Medical schools from the purge, but begin with the Law schools!

Having said that, I truly feel bad for the employees in the non-indoctrination related positions whose lives are affected. But things should be picking up soon because the Community Organizer, and Vice Community Organizer, and reported by their personal newsletter, Newsweek, said that the recession is over. Hmm, then why is the congress readying another unemployment benefits "emergency" extension!

Laura

September 22, 2009 - 12:40 pm EDT

To call education "indocrination" reveals that you need an education. Students are taught to think for themselves in college. If the facts that scientists reveal make you uncomfortable, it's not the fault of education -- it's your fixed mindset. By the way, global warming is a fact, something you would know if you didn't limit your information sources to Fox News and talk radio.

tonymo

September 22, 2009 - 1:51 pm EDT

Laura, you are proof that my contentions are absolutely true. Just 35 years ago were were being warned of the coming disasters of GLOBAL COOLING! Google Fire and Ice where you will find a 115 year history of the media warning us of the of the coming cataclysmic consequences of, alternately, global warming/global cooling! At the very time that Britain's Jimmy Carter, Prince Charles is telling everyone that we have only months to combat global warming, the IPCC's top climate expert has said, as many have before him over the past year ot two, that global warming began a "pause" that began approximately 10 years ago and my last another 10-15 years!

Everyone with at least half a working brain understands that during its 4.5 BILLION year life, the planet has been so hot that it could not sustain life, and that a couple of Ice Ages killed off almost all living things! All of these events happened long before the first "destructive" human (including the first liberal college professor), and his "destructive" SUV showed up! What we doubt is the effect man has had/is having on the warming. It cannot be proved, that's why global warming has become the one religion approved by the left!

But thanks for you brilliant reply!

dcolin

September 22, 2009 - 2:13 pm EDT

"Everyone with at least half a working brain"

You have made a detailed study.
What was you education major/degree?
In other words what are your credentials?

A real answer please.

tonymo

September 22, 2009 - 4:57 pm EDT

dcolin, Having made an exception with Laura, I generally don't like to waste my time with ill-informed fools. If you have some information about the afe of the planet, the many changes it's endured, that the IPCC has not siad there has been a "pause" in global warming for the past 10-15 years plese submit it.

I've been following this global warming/cooling lunacy for all of my adult life. Let me suggest a book. A Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming by Chris Hoerner. It is just one of many, but it is very enlightening. I've traveled the world, in 9 years the military, Europe, Morocco, SE Asia, and have traveled for pleasure and been to many places that every American should visit, then come back and complain about this country! Now what is your "expertise?"

dcolin

September 22, 2009 - 6:25 pm EDT

I think this says you have no credentials.
Now do you have a college degree in a relevant science?

Yes ( What is it ) or No?

dcolin

September 22, 2009 - 12:44 pm EDT

This makes no sense.
The professors were not targeted.
What are you talking about.

By the way throughout history universities and places of education
have been "liberal".

It means pushing for change and non conforming opinion.
Thats why they have tenure.

By the time the kids get this far they should be able to handle propaganda.
Life will present lots of it.
I.E. Your post.

lexalexander

September 22, 2009 - 8:37 pm EDT

So, Tony, are you arguing that employees of the state should be hired/retained only if they hold certain political views you find acceptable? Isn't that kind of ... well, gee, I don't know, un-American?

timflowers

September 22, 2009 - 12:22 pm EDT

Layoffs are always unfortunate, but government and academic employees seem to live in their own world of entitlement, completely different from those of us in the private sector. Most of us have to pay big insurance premiums or go without insurance, have no retirement unless we can afford to fund a 401-k, are lucky to get 2 weeks vacation per year, can never call in sick without risking our jobs, and don't get to go to retreats and seminars throughout the year. Government and academic employees seem to think those things are rights! Welcome to the real world.

Andrew Brod

September 22, 2009 - 12:41 pm EDT

The reality is that it's long been that way for most public employees. The fantasy world you believe they inhabit exists only in your own fantasies.

timflowers

September 22, 2009 - 6:06 pm EDT

There is no need to make personal attacks. My comments may not apply to all government and academic employees but it certainly applies to the majority whom I personally know.

Andrew Brod

September 23, 2009 - 10:08 am EDT

That wasn't a personal attack. But okay, let me say it this way. If a hypothetical person were to extrapolate to the whole based on what is likely to be an unrepresentative sample, solely because it conforms with his or her biases and preconceived notions about the whole, that would be, well, kind of dumb. Ideally, that hypothetical person would speak up about the whole only when he or she actually knows something. Hypothetically.

dcolin

September 22, 2009 - 12:37 pm EDT

Well,
Help me understand.
New Athletic Director. Forced old guy out.
Moving up in basketball. Playing at the coliseum.
Wow

brian444

September 22, 2009 - 1:49 pm EDT

The new chancellor thinks that big-time athletics will be a net plus for UNCG. It's an arguable point, but hardly nonsensical.

dcolin

September 22, 2009 - 2:18 pm EDT

I agree.
It will be a net plus for attracting students.
It just won't improve education.

Andrew Brod

September 22, 2009 - 12:40 pm EDT

First, I might as well note that I'm on the list. My position and my center will no longer be funded by the state, at least not in the near term. We're getting by on private funding for now, as we did partially prior to this.

Second, anyone who thinks that what applies to a regular business should apply to a university like UNCG is someone who truly does not understand higher education. That's not to suggest that higher education should be immune to what's going on in the economy, but it does imply that it's not a one-size-fits-all proposition.

Norm* and histrion are basically right. Before the cuts started, UNCG employed just 2,674 faculty and staff and had enrollment of 19,976 students. Its student-to-staff ratio, a measure (though not the only measure) of the staff's efficiency in serving the student body, is the 4th highest among the 17 UNC campuses and much higher than UNCG's peer institutions around the country.

UNCG has actually been quite careful with its resources. Between 2005 and 2008, on only 4 of the 17 UNC campuses was the growth in faculty and staff slower than student enrollment. UNCG was one of them. At its peer institutions, the average growth in faculty and staff was faster than in the number of students.

brian444

September 22, 2009 - 1:48 pm EDT

I mostly agree. But I think there has been administrative creep. Does UNCG really need a whole administrative structure for "Adult Students"? Not really. Adult students generally do better than non-adult students. Centers and Institutes are a mixed bag: some are useful, some just seemed like a good idea at the time.

DrBlue

September 22, 2009 - 8:39 pm EDT

Adult students also have some challenges that younger students do not have - managing a family and more responsibilities while going back to school is something an 18 year old doesn't have to deal with. In non-crisis times it's nice to have support for these students. In crisis times, I suppose you can just tell adult students to suck it up and deal with it, which is why that whole office is being eliminated now.

lexalexander

September 22, 2009 - 8:36 pm EDT

My sympathies, Professor Brod.

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