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Parking demand declines at UNCG

Tuesday, September 8, 2009
(Updated Wednesday, September 9 - 5:11 am)

GREENSBORO — Four years ago, the parking situation had gotten so desperate at UNCG that the school was about to sink $13 million into yet another new parking deck.

“We almost did it,” said Scott Milman, director of auxiliary business operations at the university. “Then at the eleventh hour, we realized we needed to step back and look at what we’re doing.”

Milman said what they were doing, through creating more parking spaces and building more decks, was encouraging students to bring their cars to school. The situation grew worse every year.

After working with consultants, the school instead decided to look at alternative transportation, commit to pedestrian design on campus and find a way to discourage people from driving.

The result: This year, even as UNCG saw record enrollment, demand for parking passes dipped nearly 3 percent.

Milman says the Higher Education Area Transit, or HEAT, buses have helped most.

“Now, after doing the HEAT buses for four years, there’s no one who doesn’t know about them,” Milman said. “Our campus has really embraced the idea.”

But another part of the decline in on-campus parking has been honesty about its shortcomings.

“I’m the only person I know who has something to sell who gets up in front of customers every year and says, 'Don’t buy this. It’s not good. You won’t get what you want,’ ” Milman said.

The Parking Services Department even changed its name, Milman said, because “no one was really being serviced.”

UNCG sells parking deck passes for $420 a year, 24-hour surface parking permits for $285, park-and-ride passes for $185 and spots in its long-term lot on Lee Street for $25. But like most campuses UNCG sells far more passes than it has spaces, effectively selling most students the right to look for a parking spot if any are left.

Milman said that system isn’t in the best interests of students, the school or the long-term growth of the university.

“It doesn’t make us money,” Milman said. “We have to pay to build the decks and the lots, maintain them, have parking employees, process tickets and fines, boots and towing. And all that revenue goes to the state; we don’t keep any of it.”

But more important, Milman said, is that the school’s master plan calls for a slow phasing out of parking spaces to make room for buildings such as the new education school, which replaced a former lot.

To help move toward that future, the campus closed College Avenue — once a main campus thoroughfare — to car traffic. It has also created and extended bike lanes, installed more bike racks and are opening its few new parking spaces off-campus, where students can leave their cars and ride in.

New students, for their part, have a hard time imagining UNCG was ever more car-centric.

“Frankly, I don’t see why anybody would have a car here,” said Emily Wheaton, a freshman from Hickory. “There’s the HEAT bus, you can ride your bike almost anywhere and you can take the city buses too, which are really good. Who needs a car?”

Contact Joe Killian at 373-7023 or joe.killian@news-record.com

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Photo Caption: The campus of UNCG.

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jrhendri

September 8, 2009 - 7:23 am EDT

Parking demand is down for on campus parking but not for the surrounding neighborhoods. I have lived 1 block from campus for 5 years and this is the worst year I have had parking near my house. Now I come home from work then walk 5 min. to my house. The city also just painted parking spaces on my street removing 3 parking spacing on my block, and the spaces so large a Hummer would have no problem just pulling in without any need to parallel park.

truth

September 8, 2009 - 9:30 am EDT

jr,

I think you hit the nail on the head. Those who live near the University realize the reason the demand for parking is down is because the students are parking on public streets, in front of people's houses. Why pay $285 for a hunting license if you can park for free in a nearby neighborhood and walk in. The other reason is that the neighborhoods are being demolished for huge boxes of student housing. Students can walk to school from these new apartments so they don't need to buy a parking pass.

rooster8786

September 8, 2009 - 3:09 pm EDT

The problem is 2 fold. It's free to park in the surrounding neighborhoods and the State of NC is LYING!!!!! When Jim & Tammy Bakker oversold their religous resort, they were prosecuted and persecuted. When the state of NC, via UNC-G Parking Services, oversells it's parking permits, it's called revenue generation. What's the difference? Students, and their parents, are finally waking up to the fraud the UNC System perpetuates every year, not only at UNC-G, but at other campuses as well I'm sure.

snowmentality

September 8, 2009 - 10:51 am EDT

This is great news. Giving students -- and everyone -- useful transit options really makes a difference.

UNCG is such a commuter campus that improving city bus service is really the best way to reduce parking demand. It can't just be focused on getting students from the dorms to downtown, although that is a great thing to do too, with Greensboro's great downtown. Make it truly practical to commute by bus, and people will. In my dreams, there would be light rail service to/from the rest of the Triad, so that it might be possible to commute from another city to UNCG without having to drive.

clay

September 8, 2009 - 1:32 pm EDT

I think the recession is the primary reason why parking demand is down. Why pay so much money for a license to hunt? My friends who attend UNCG park in the surrounding neighborhoods to save money. From what I hear UNCG is getting rid of more free parking next year, so they will once again shift more of the burden to their surrounding neighbors. People save your money and go to the community colleges or get fully accredited degrees online from schools like ECU.

Joe Killian

September 9, 2009 - 9:33 am EDT

I agree that more student housing near campus could be contributing to a drop in demand for parking spaces. But as for students parking in nearby neighborhoods -- it was ever thus. From the time I first got to UNCG in 2000 to when I was living in a nearby neighborhood myself a few years ago, students always parked on the surrounding city streets to avoid having to park on campus. I haven't seen any particular uptick in that -- and neither have the cops who ticket in those neighborhoods, I'm informed -- but as the streets have always been jammed it would be hard to tell what an uptick would look like.

logicfairy

September 9, 2009 - 4:44 pm EDT

The people who live in the neighborhoods around campus have seen their streets slam packed for years. Try parking a car within a block of UNCG on a residential street mid-day during the week. God help you if you have to drive to a doctor's appointment and have to depend on street parking when you get home. There's no telling how far you'd have to walk.

Now we have a new developer who wants to build student housing on Spring Garden St. where Newman Machinery is, and the front man says that UNCG is encouraging them NOT to provide 100% parking for its residents - rather to provide 75-80%. These residents and their guests will spill out into the already full neighborhood streets. They need to have their zoning denied unless they are willing to provide 110% parking. I don't think that he is telling the truth about UNCG being behind this parking plan, and I'd love to see the N&R look into it.

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