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'For-sale’ signs dot church properties

Sunday, September 6, 2009
(Updated 3:00 am)

It’s rare to see a large church property come on the market, a fact local real estate agents are hoping will attract interest in the 22,000-square-foot former Asbury United Methodist Church.

The church on Pinecroft Road just went on the market for $875,000.

“You can’t build a church, nearly for the price you can get this church,” said real estate agent Richard Montana , from what sounds like a perfected pitch.

 Highways “220, 421, 85 and 40 all meet up right here,” said Montana, one of the property’s listing agents at CB Richard Ellis of Greensboro, between showings of the Pinecroft Road property earlier this week.

Churches “don’t become available very often at all,” said Denis Speckman of Price Commercial Properties in High Point, the listing agent for High Point’s B’nai Israel Synagogue and the former New Beginnings Baptist Church. Both have had high traffic from prospective buyers.

“I could have sold the church property 10 times over, the synagogue property 20 times over to interested churches,” Speckman said. “They all have big ideas and big visions, but no money to back them up.”

While most churches become available when congregations outgrow them, Asbury’s membership had dwindled from more than 300 members over the years to fewer than 30 people on most Sundays.

Members held their last service June 7.

The sprawling church complex includes a main sanctuary and smaller chapel, a floor mostly earmarked for Sunday school or nursery classrooms, and a commercial stainless steel kitchen.

Even as the church could barely afford the electricity, members served meals to the hungry in the spacious fellowship hall once a week. The church was also home to the community’s Neighborhood Watch.

“I hope it’s not torn down and another condo put there,” said former longtime member Nancy Harper, 82, who has since joined another church, where she is now a Sunday school teacher.

Just inside the front doors is a walk-in coat room and sanctuary doors that open to forest-green carpeting and mustard yellow cushioned pews, with grand candelabras and recessed lighting overhead. Holes in the wall behind where the choir sat on Sunday mornings are  signs that the cross once hung there.

Largely, the only remnants of the Asbury congregation  linger in the plaque — “To the glory of God/ In memory of C. Warner Stamey 1973” — still attached to the organ.

Interest  has come from existing congregations looking for satellite locations and from smaller churches looking for room to grow.

“I talked to someone this morning who was really hoping we’d give them the building,” said Greensboro United Methodist district superintendent Frank “Duke” Ison.

Another Methodist congregation could have had the building for free, but money from a sale to anyone else goes back into the denomination’s ministry and missions.

Ison is hoping another congregation can grow there.

It is something Asbury couldn’t do in recent years. The aging membership tried sharing the building with other fledging ministries, including the Korean Presbyterian Church, but expensive monthly utility bills signaled problems.

An African American assistant pastor was brought in to help connect with the increasingly diverse neighborhoods around the church. But pews remained empty.

Eventually, there wasn’t enough money to pay into the pastor’s pension and keep up with the utility bills, something Methodist ministries are required to do.

Eventually, reality set in when the church couldn’t pay a $900 utility bill. The pastor was reassigned to a church in Asheville, and the district took the property over.

“We still talk and we’re still in mourning,” Harper said of those who lingered to the end. “It was a family.”

 

Contact Nancy McLaughlin at 373-7049 or nancy.mclaughlin@news-record.com

 

Accompanying Photos

Nelson Kepley

Photo Caption: The church building at 2227 Pinecroft Road in Greensboro. 

CHURCHES FOR SALE

Available Guilford County church properties, according to the most recent updates on www.loopnet.com:

Most recent occupant: Destiny Christian Fellowship
Location: 560 Farragut Street (I-40 and Randleman Road)
Price: $1.95 million
Features: 14,000-square-foot building; 700 seats; balcony


Most recent occupant: B’nai Israel Synagogue
Location: 1207 Kensington Drive, High Point
Price: $1.6 million
Features: 16,000-square-foot building; residential neighborhood 


Most recent occupant: Triad Community Church
Location: 922 Gallimore Dairy Road, High Point (I-40 and N.C. 68)
Price: $850,000
Features: 6,660-square-foot building; zoned agricultural


Most recent occupant: New Beginnings Baptist Church
Location: 210 Fraley Road, High Point (off South Main Street)
Price: $198,500
Features: 3,135-square-foot building; separate Sunday school and day care room
 

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Get A Clue

September 6, 2009 - 9:54 am EDT

What are the metaphysical contemplations regarding the existence of, belief in and possible powers of a supernatural being when this happens (as it does with increasing frequency across the nation)?
I think that would make for interesting discussion.

Get the facts

September 6, 2009 - 9:55 pm EDT

I believe your question relates to whether our faith in God should be shaken simply as a result of a church or a few churches closing? God was here before the church, and everything else for that matter, and will be here after the church. Even during biblical times many churches came and went. One thing is for sure, God never changes and guides me daily. I have found it takes infinitely more faith to believe there is no god than it takes to believe that God exists and is omnipresent. There will always be incidents that make non-believers jump to their feet and exclaim I told you so. But in reality these incidents are invariably the result of the actions of people, not God.

Get A Clue

September 7, 2009 - 8:55 am EDT

I am sorry that you chose to interpret it as such. Rather than your narrow interpretation, I instead asked a serious question open to debate. The Christian God is described in His own words (by those who assume the Bible is His Word, unaltered) as all-knowing and all-powerful. Therefore, these few churches (and all those throughout history) that have opened, closed, been burned down by KKK bomb-tossers, destroyed by natural means, etc. have all occurred with His full knowledge and obvious consent. I ask because if it's all God's Will then why any sorrow whatsoever should a church in Greensboro have its membership dwindle and its building go up for sale? And then why worry about who controls Jerusalem, or Bethlehem? If it's all part of His Plan and He's decided what's best for His Plan, then why bother at all? If He allows it, it must be for a good reason. Likewise famines, floods, the Holocaust, etc. All part of His Plan. Even that child Jaycee Duggard, kidnapped, raped and impregnated twice. All part of His Plan. And He certainly approves, otherwise he would have prevented it. All-Knowing and All-Powerful. Remember?
Of course, these 'facts' I have cited are all from the Bible. Those living in the reality-based world may prefer other observable sources.

Get A Clue

September 7, 2009 - 9:09 am EDT

I also add this in an effort to spark debate. I posted it over at "the front pew" blog but that blog doesn't appear to get much attention.
South Carolina's Governor Sanford was widely quoted as stating that God told him to not resign. Now it happened to be the Republican contingency of his own state government who were insisting on his resignation. I feel statistically certain that most (if not all) S.C. Republican elected officials call themselves Christians, and that most of them regularly reflect through prayer to God before making pronouncements on such momentous decisions.
I urge all Christians to take a few moments to ponder the metaphysical implications of these facts.
You might want access to a glass of water an a couple headache-remedy tablets, though.
Should enough of you give this serious thought I also predict a rise on stories about church properties for sale.

Get the facts

September 7, 2009 - 9:20 pm EDT

You call my "interpretation" narrow, I call it correct and therefore does not have to be an obtuse barrage like your initial question and subsequent self imposed answer. You've made many statements that you say are biblical. I invite you to present one biblical verse that says God's plan is to dictate the actions of people and the ramifications that result. There is no such verse. God does have a plan for all of us but has given us free will as to whether or not we follow that plan. You must look to him through prayer for guidance in order to have that plan revealed. Again I say, the actions of people cannot be construed to be the actions of God. There will always be those who claim to be following God's will but are not. I urge you to ponder the metaphysical implications of our universe and everything in it and then come to the conclusion it was created through any other means but by God.

Get A Clue

September 8, 2009 - 7:37 am EDT

So I'll make it shorter in hopes you can understand it: Who is right, Governor Sanford who says God told him to not resign, or other S.C. Republican Christian legislators who believe God told them to insist he resign? Unless your god is Loki, there's a bit of heavenly cognitive dissonace going on here.
By the way, thanks for agreeing with me. A god who isn't all-knowing and all-powerful isn't much of a deity, just someone with delusions of grandeur.
And, as asked, he's a brief sampling of verses to keep you busy:
Acts 4:28 - "whatever Thy hand and purpose predestined to occur"
Rom. 8:29 -"He predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son"
Rom. 8:30 - "whom He predestined, He also called..."
I Cor. 2:7 - "a mystery, the hidden wisdom, which God predestined before the ages"
Eph. 1:5 -"He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ
Eph. 1:11 - "having been predestined according to His purpose"
Thanks for playing.

Get the facts

September 8, 2009 - 6:24 pm EDT

While I never agreed with you, I have prayed for you. Attempting to prove a point by pulling half sentences out of context has been tried time and again to no avail. I hope that you someday achieve the peace and comfort you are looking for. I pity you for all the effort you have put into thinking about this subject you still remain confused and are so obviously tormented. God bless you and may you one day pray for and find his plan for you.

Get A Clue

September 10, 2009 - 9:09 am EDT

Thanks for good intentions and meaningless actions.
And for proving my point.

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