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Allen Johnson: If birther blather clouds our heads so easily, what hope is there for health care?

Sunday, August 16, 2009
(Updated 3:00 am)

 

A sizeable number of North Carolinians still believe Barack Obama was not born in the United States, a new survey reveals.

More Republicans question the president's citizenship than Democrats, and more white voters than black ones.

During the same week, this impassioned e-mail arrived from Charlotte: "More and more American people are seeing they have been sold a bill of false goods. There are many things people should know about who this Hope and Change figurine is besides, with certainty, where he was born."

Geez Louise.

Of course, the survey, released last week by Public Policy Polling Research, also finds that some respondents don't consider Hawaii part of the United States.

And we wonder why some people believe proposed health care reform will include "Death Panels."

For the record, the survey of 749 North Carolina voters between Aug. 4 and 10 found:

l 54 percent believe the president was born in the United States.

l 26 percent believe he is a not a U.S. citizen.

l 20 percent said they did not know.

l 5 percent said they didn't consider Obama's birthplace of record, Hawaii, part of the U.S.

l 3 percent said they weren't sure if it was.

Adding insult to ignorance, some elected officials have done little to erase the renegade rumors and outright fabrications.

Asked about it at a town hall meeting in Lincolnton, North Carolina Congressman Patrick McHenry said he still had his doubts about the president's citizenship.

"I haven't seen enough evidence one way or another," McHenry said.

McHenry, a Republican, added that the issue was still being addressed "in the courts," which it was not. The Supreme Court declined to hear an appeal questioning Obama's citizenship status in December 2008.

Thankfully, McHenry later "clarified" his comments in a statement released the next morning. "As I stated last night," he said, "I have not carefully reviewed the evidence as a jurist would. However, from what I have read, I have absolutely no reason to question President Obama's citizenship. I anticipate that as a legal matter the courts will continue to come to the same conclusion."

To their credit, a number of other conservatives have, from the start, discredited continuing attempts to challenge the president's citizenship.

"I may have disagreements with [the president] on issues," South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint, a frequent critic of the president's policies, told The Huffington Post. "But he is my president, he deserves our respect, and we need to forget that nonsense.&ellipses; He is not only a citizen, he is our president."

Still, CNN's Lou Dobbs and a few others keep drifting off into Conspiracy Land, questioning Obama's citizenship and demanding a birth certificate (which already has been produced) as proof.

This, despite a report by Dobbs' own network that concluded Obama's citizenship is authentic.

But consider, for a moment, that the Truth Really Is Out There, and President Obama actually did fake his citizenship.

Wouldn't that have to mean:

l That a daily newspaper in Hawaii, the Honolulu Advertiser, was complicit in the deception, since it published the birth announcement on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961?

l That somebody counterfeited the birth certificate presented by the Obama campaign as proof, once rumors began to swirl in 2008?

l That the director of Hawaii's Department of Health, who confirmed on Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu, also is in on the ruse?

l And that, if this fakery indeed dates back to 1961, someone knew, four years before the passage of the Voting Rights Act, that this child of a mixed-race couple someday was going to run for president (space aliens, maybe?) and hatched an elaborate plot to make it happen?

The problem, of course, extends beyond Obama. It also transcends political ideologies.

For instance, there are people who, to this day, believe George W. Bush was behind the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Too many of us seem far too willing to embrace sometimes even the flimsiest of deceptions if they feed our fears or reinforce preconceived world views.

If something as simple as the president's citizenship can be sabotaged by such absurd concoctions, what hope can there be for a topic as genuinely daunting and complex as health care reform?

We can be smarter than this.

We can do better than this.

We can fix health care with an informed, constructive dialogue.

Or we can fiddle with myths and legends, while Rome burns.

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rinehab

August 16, 2009 - 8:11 am EDT

Mr. Johnson,

I'm not certain where to start.

First I guess, I'm certainly not a birther. Even if I was, I certainly wouldn't push for Obama's removal. Biden would be a horrible president, worse than Obama, and probably would get us into a world war just by making a stupid bumbling statement that he is known for making.

Healthcare:

Obama's entire premise that we *must* do this is that this is necessary for the well being of our economy. Even your attitude Mr. Johnson, is that we *must* do this, or Rome burns.

Yet everything beyond that statement from the administration has been what we get out of it as benefits. Please tell me, what cost savings do will we incur by enacting this health care legislation, and what overall cost reductions in total US healthcare spending does this plan cause over time?

Why are the insurance companies the top target of healthcare reform, when the profit of the top 7 health insurance companies was less that .5% of total healthcare expenditures last year?

And please tell us more about Ezekiel Emanuel.

A 1996 report, "Where Civic Republicanism and Deliberative Democracy Meet" (http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/Where_Civic_Republicanism_and_Deliberative_Demo...), is a document describing Ezekiel Emanuel's vision of what resource allocation in the United States should look like, including health care. Why is this important? Because Dr. Emanuel is Rahm's brother, and is currently the White House health care policy advisor.

He describes: "Procedurally, it suggests the need for public forums to deliberate about which health services should be considered basic and should be socially guaranteed". In other words, rationed care.

He also postulates, "Conversely, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed".

He suggested earlier this week that this paper just is a debate of the entire issue. It is not. This is a position paper. The intellectual mind must be concerned of a bait and switch with an advisor that made this statement in his adult life. When the known bill allows for the infrastructure that this man desired in this report, you must be concerned, that we could end up in another "the ends justify the means" scenario, well established with this administration.

Mr. Johnson, where has socialized medicine been successful in saving money without limiting care, in the government deciding who gets what? Why should we trust the government to make this type of decisions, when every decision they make is a political one? I could see the party in power deciding to save the lives of their party members, but killing off the opposing party. It's not out of the question.

jeffreyhsykes

August 16, 2009 - 10:24 am EDT

Allen: I agree we should have an informed, constructive dialogue about health care.

A good starting point would be for leftist and the press to stop inflaming the birther nonsense and let Sarah Palin fade into the dustbin of history where she belongs.

Then we can go back to our conversation about:

1. The president has stated he will sign no bill that adds to the deficit, yet the CBO states that the plan in Congress will add $250 billion to the deficit in the first 10 years and about $1 trillion in years 10-20.

2.The president has stated he will not increase taxes on the middle class, yet most analysts believe there is no way to tax the rich only to pay for the expansion of health care entitlements. This leaves the middle class, you know, you and me and all the other people who go to work everyday.

So yes, I agree with you. Let the press and the left take the first step by coming back from the edge and answering these questions.

Oh wait. They can't. That's why since the CBO director testified before Congress we have heard more and more about birthers and death panels and less and less about the details of the plan.

Doing nothing is better than rushing headlong down the road to a centrally planned economy.

rmacz

August 16, 2009 - 10:52 am EDT

It's just not just his birth certificate he hides, it's his school records, his house he bought from Rezno, and the list goes on and on. I hope Obama fails and I am clarifing, that I'm talking about his policies.

Andrew Brod

August 16, 2009 - 12:26 pm EDT

Good column, Allen. And your commenters just make your point, don't they?

tonymo

August 16, 2009 - 4:01 pm EDT

"The commentors make your point don't they." What exactly does that mean? I've read the comments up to point that Brod made the mindless statement I saw nothing as outrageous as many of the statements in the "Heil to the Savior" tribute from one of his kool aid drinkers that litter the media.

Please Andrew, point out the most outrageous comments as you saw them from the Astro turf, unpatriotic, un-American, "evil mongering," Swatiska carrying health care opponents (that now includes, according to all recent polls, most of us! Brod, incredibly works for a Business School, yet seems to have no problem with the snake oil salesman's contentiom that we can add many millions more to a Medicare style plan, provide more benefits, and reduce the costs! That lie continues even after having been shot down by the CBO. Of course, when did any liberal ever let facts get in the way of any of their mindless tirades?

Like so many liberals, if Brods was half as smart as he thinks he is, he'd be twice as smart as he actually is! Of course there is one other possibl e explanation. He is as dishonest as the snake oil salesman he supports!

jeffreyhsykes

August 16, 2009 - 7:38 pm EDT

Andy: I know for a fact you are very smart and have a mind for economics.

Can you help me find answers to my questions:

1. The president has stated he will sign no bill that adds to the deficit, yet the CBO states that the plan in Congress will add $250 billion to the deficit in the first 10 years and about $1 trillion in years 10-20.

2.The president has stated he will not increase taxes on the middle class, yet most analysts believe there is no way to tax the rich only to pay for the expansion of health care entitlements. This leaves the middle class, you know, you and me and all the other people who go to work everyday.

Do you think these dichotomies will somehow be resolved?

dcolin

August 16, 2009 - 12:58 pm EDT

Mr. Johnson.
Obviously Obama is a Left wing plant.
I see the Elders of Zion behind this.

They recognized his potential for mesmerizing people and enrolled his family
when he was born.

He may well be demoniacally possessed.
The jury is still out

Dogwood

August 16, 2009 - 2:06 pm EDT

Take a deep breath. Read your own health insurance policy. Does it exclude pre-conditions or promise to pay for heart lung replacement? If it does you are blessed. Did you have to wait or was it automatic?

Something is broken and nonsense does no good.

tonymo

August 16, 2009 - 2:37 pm EDT

I guess the same chance we would have had during the "Truther Blather!"

Doug Johnson

August 17, 2009 - 6:16 am EDT

Health care, could be and should be fixed.
There is no death panel, however we took it out. EXCUSE ME!
We are not going to ration health care!
However we are going to take 550 million from medicare to pay for it! EXCUSE ME!
I have been to 3 of this town hall meeting.
I have yet to hear a question answered. EXCUSE ME.
One far left liberal paper, called us rowdy, why because we keep saying answer the question.
We can fix health care with informed, constructive dialogue. EXCUSE ME!
It contains money for wild horses and Acorn nuts.
It puts illegals, ahead of senior citizens! read the damn bill!
Yes I have read much of it.
Wonder why Ted Kennedy did not go to Canada for his operation?
We waited at the crossing this morning for Amtrak to go by.
I saw one head. Another government plan.
Fed Ex and UPS works fine, have you seen your mail lately?
Fed Ex and UPS make money.
The post office lost 7 billion.
You are foolish enough to want government to take over your health care?
Great, we should all go on Obama care, including and congress people and Obama

dcolin

August 17, 2009 - 11:03 pm EDT

What should we do?

Just leave health care as it is?

What do you think?

Doug Johnson

August 17, 2009 - 6:28 am EDT

Another point !Since Obama wants to control doctors. income and wants lawyers to be able to sue the crap out of doctors and hospitals, why not become a lawyer!
They say there are 47 million folks with out insurance! This number changes each time a lying liberal on tv explains it, so who knows.
Were are all these new doctors to come from?
Mr. Johnson there is a letter to the editor in the Danville R@B yesterday,, the writer in my opinion describes your paper to a tee!
Speaking of tee, it almost tee time. BYE!

dcolin

August 17, 2009 - 10:37 pm EDT

Tonyo

For a starting point.

"Like so many liberals, if Brods was half as smart as he thinks he is, he'd be twice as smart as he actually is! Of course there is one other possible e explanation. He is as dishonest as the snake oil salesman he supports!"

You can goto the UNCG WEB site and I believe see Brods education credentials.

What are yours

How about a straight answer

Then I will decide who I want to listen too.

Fair enough

tledford

August 18, 2009 - 12:48 pm EDT

I demand to see Congressman Henry's birth certificate. :-)

What is he hiding?

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