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Additional downtown cameras planned

Wednesday, August 12, 2009
(Updated 7:59 am)

GREENSBOBO — Everywhere you look, somebody is looking back.

Downtown officials say they want the city to install as many as eight video surveillance cameras in the center city along Elm and Greene streets. 

That’s twice the number police advised the City Council about last week.

“We are recommending additional locations, and the police concur,” said Ed Wolverton, president and CEO of Downtown Greensboro Inc. “It’s another public safety tool that will help deter crime and investigate anything that might occur.”

Four of the cameras will be paid for from the police department’s budget. Those will be posted at Elm and Bellemeade Street, Elm and Friendly Avenue, Elm and Market Street and Elm and Washington Street.

The rest would be paid for by DGI. Those will go up at Elm and McGee Street, Elm and Lewis Street, Greene and Friendly and, perhaps, Greene and Washington.

Collectively, the system will cost $45,000 and should be operating sometime next month.

The cameras will be mounted on utility poles and have the capability to scan, tilt and zoom. There will be a single console for monitoring pedestrian and vehicular traffic.

The cameras will operate around the clock but may not always be monitored, police said.

“I don’t want to mislead people into believing that just because a surveillance camera is there that it is totally safe and you can walk around with a one hundred dollar bill hanging out of your pocket,” said Assistant Police Chief Anita Holder. “It’s not a foolproof solution.”

Officials at the American Civil Liberties Union of North Carolina agree, saying cameras give residents a false sense of security.

“Generally speaking, surveillance cameras may not always be the best use of taxpayer dollars,” said Jennifer Rudinger, the organization’s executive director. “Some people like to believe they work as a deterrent, but there is no way to prove or disprove that.

“If a crime is taking place, the camera cannot intercede and stop it. We have argued that a better way to invest dollars is hiring more police officers.”

As for privacy issues, Rudinger said she would reserve comment until she learns specifics on how the system will be used.

But she added, “The trade off is that all of us are losing any sense of privacy when we step outside of our house .... We don’t like to be spied on. It’s a little creepy.”

Police say that if a person is in a public place, then authorities have the right to record them. They say they are working on policies about how the system will be used, how long the images will be stored and under what circumstances the images will be made public.

They say they are unaware of any organized opposition to the cameras.

“I don’t have a problem with it unless you have something to hide,” Bill Heroy, owner of Old Photo Specialist on South Elm Street, said of the cameras.

“The whole idea of surveillance is to be able to identify troublemakers. If you have troublemakers, you’ve got problems.”

 

Contact Donald W. Patterson at 373-7027 or don.patterson@news-record.com

 

Accompanying Photos

Margaret Baxter (News & Record)
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jeffic_fail

August 12, 2009 - 3:23 am EDT

I highly doubt additional cameras downtown will do much good in terms of stopping crime. At best it could provide police with footage of crimes being committed, which would make it easier to identify, arrest, and convict the perpetrators. There's really not a lot of crime downtown anyway. They should focus their attention in high crime areas, like Lee Street, High Point Road, East Bessemer, and Phillips Avenue. Jeffic Fail!

Elmer

August 12, 2009 - 8:50 am EDT

Brings to mind the intro to HBO's "The Wire"

thestatelottery

August 12, 2009 - 11:45 am EDT

Great show and it sure does.

timflowers

August 12, 2009 - 10:13 am EDT

No studies have proven that cameras in public spaces deter crime. More and more cities keep adding cameras with no apparent benefit, except to condition us to the idea of being watched all the time.

The slippery slide to totalitarianism has begun.

TOTHE POINT

August 12, 2009 - 10:49 am EDT

Timflowers that is only because no one has conducted the studies relevant to this subject. However, I would bet that if a person bent on committing a crime they would not do it if they knew they would be on candid camera ... now would they? I would say that the knowledge of a camera watching you or possibility of one watching you is a deterent. I have no problem with being watch because I am not planning to do anything wrong..... ARE YOU?

gsosteve

August 12, 2009 - 11:15 am EDT

TOTHE POINT, I would have to say that's not true at all. The only difference is that they'll work harder to conceal the crime or themselves. I've worked for a major retailer in loss prevention and have worked with numerous other retailers. The cameras are highly visible and everyone knows they're there, yet people will steal anything they can get their hands on anyways. The only perceived benefit I can see is in prosecuting a crime or maybe identifying a suspect, but they won't deter crime.

thestatelottery

August 12, 2009 - 11:45 am EDT

Big brother is watching! Ah, the illusion of safety strikes once again.

weatherwithyou33

August 12, 2009 - 3:11 pm EDT

I think this is a great idea. The should probably put a few up around the downtown park as well. Charlotte has many cameras in the downtown area and uses them quite effectively. Here are a few examples of their system at work.

http://www.wsoctv.com/video/17328377/
http://www.wsoctv.com/video/17328503/
http://www.wsoctv.com/video/17328144/
http://www.wsoctv.com/video/17328022/

holland4

August 12, 2009 - 4:10 pm EDT

It'll certainly generate some good material for Liveleak and Youtube. But I doubt it serves much benefit. Punks still hold up the corner Stop-N-Rob without the camera behind the counter having a deterrent.

whyus

August 12, 2009 - 4:55 pm EDT

I think if new cameras are installed, they should be in the alleys where I observed a drunken female urinate during daylight hours.

whyus

August 12, 2009 - 4:57 pm EDT

Hey-there are cameras in City Hall doing real time video of City Council's stupid acts, so I guess cameras don't work so well.

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