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Mother fights for Marine's belongings

Saturday, August 8, 2009
(Updated Monday, August 10 - 9:51 am)

GIBSONVILLE — The Marines sent a Gibsonville man’s body home to his mother, but she probably won’t be getting his belongings.

They’ll instead go to his biological father, a man who was practically a stranger to him, his mother said.

Roger Hager, 20, a 2008 graduate of Western Alamance High School, died one month ago today when his convoy hit a roadside bomb in Afghanistan’s Helmand province. He was killed on impact.

His remains and awards were delivered to his mother, Elaine Hager Farren, who had raised him and who was the beneficiary of his life insurance policy.

Official policy states that personal belongings go to the next-of-kin, Capt. Timothy Patrick, a spokesman for the Marines, said. In the case of an unwed soldier, the items go to the eldest parent.

That means Hager’s belongings will be sent to Steve Graves, who was never married to Farren and whose name, she said, is not listed on Hager’s birth certificate.

Patrick said Hager listed both Farren and Graves on his military records.

Once the Marines deliver the items, how they are divided among the family becomes a civil issue, Patrick said.

He was unsure if the items have been delivered, but he does not expect the Marines to deviate from the policy in this case.

“The Marine Corps part is the delivery of the personal effects,” he said. “Delivery does not constitute ownership.”

When reached in Shelbyville, Tenn., Graves said he would like to keep his son’s belongings and does not plan to sign a release waiver.

“He put me down, so that’s why I’d like to keep them,” he said.

But Farren said her son would not have listed Graves as his father if he had been aware of the policy.

She had talked with Hager before he left about where his belongings would go if something happened to him.

“You, Ma, you’re going to get everything,” Farren recalls her son saying.

“Everything” is not much. There are Hager’s video games and Xbox, a television and his cell phone.

And then there are the letters Farren wrote to her son while he was at war and the necklaces he had bought for his mom and sister but never got to give them.

“This is Roger’s stuff,” Farren said through tears. “This is stuff Roger loved.”

Burdened with the loss of one child, Farren also worries about her other two.

Jeremy Scott Hager, 22, spent his last tour in Iraq deactivating explosives like the one that killed his brother. He’s getting married in the next few weeks and then deploying with the Marines to Afghanistan in September.

Faith Strang, Farren’s youngest, is 18. She left a few weeks ago for Army training.

Farren has spent hours on the phone with the Marines, hoping to find someone who is willing to deviate from the official policy and help her get Hager’s belongings back. She said she isn’t sure what the next step is.

She is still trying to find a lawyer willing to take on her case and is considering a public march.

Today, she said, she’s grown to hate the Marines, a group her eldest son is still a part of.

“I feel bad that I’m fighting. I feel guilty,” she said. “But they took my son. They can’t take his stuff too.”

 

Contact Tricia L. Nadolny at 373.7028 or tricia.nadolny@news-record.com

 

Accompanying Photos

Photo Caption: Roger Hager

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elaina0915

August 8, 2009 - 5:13 am EDT

My son Roger Died one month ago today at 1130 am our time he was raised by me and supported by me only Roger only seen his father a total of one yr out of his 20yrs just because the boy was required to put down both parents as parent don't make it right saying he gets all of Rogers personal belongings if this was the case how come I received his remains ?How come I receive his GI bill and the Death benefits ? Roger has listed me as his beneficiary Which should mean all ... I would like to fight this and want someone to help me out I never married his father roger has wrote him a note which was not pleasant roger didn't not list him to receive anything just listed him as a parent which to me is a sperm donor he was never there for him I am willing to do this march this week coming and don't care if it means going to jail this is all I have Of my boy.It is like a double slap in the face, take my boy now u take what ment a lot to him.

auntterri1322

August 8, 2009 - 2:47 pm EDT

MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND KEEP YOU SAFE, ELAINE! THIS IS AN OUTRAGE THAT THE SPERM DONOR GETS ANYTHING AT ALL, MUCH LESS ALL OF HIS THINGS. I WILL BE PRAYING FOR YOU!

Panacea

August 8, 2009 - 7:24 pm EDT

I feel for you. It's a stupid policy, and clearly needs to be changed. The Marine's may seem unfeeling and maybe they are but they can't break their own rules.

I hope you advocate within the system to get the Marines to change their regulations regarding the return of personal effects. Our military members should list specifically who should receive them.

My condolences on your loss. I am humbled by the sacrifices of Marines like your son, and family members like you. God bless you all.

tweetybaby77

August 8, 2009 - 8:42 pm EDT

On behalf of Rogers father, he loves his son and always has. The reason he didn't get to see Roger when he was growing up was because his mother wouldn't allow it. Evertime he found Roger she would change her phone number or move. So she is the reason Roger and his father never had a relationship. Now she is acting like she is the only one that has lost a son. Well I am here to tell you two parents lost their son that day not one. But does she care.... No. She never has and never will. My one request is that she will stop acting like a two year old and let his father and his fathers side of the family mourn Roger. Roger means the world to me and granted he didn't have Roger in his life like he would have loved let him have his sons belongings to remember him by.

elaina0915

August 8, 2009 - 9:14 pm EDT

When Roger came home he asked to live with his dad I said I didnt know so I had called Steve aka Darrel and asked him he and I quote I cant while a baby was crying in the back ground do you know how hard that is to tell a 8yr old ? then when he was 14 roger had spent the summer with Steve when he brought Roger back home to me after that he never called nor stopped by or write him Roger wrote a letter in his poem book to his Father I showed Steve the letter no remorse no care like he was reading blank paper total of Roger 's 20 yrs he seen maybe 1 year total if that

tweetybaby77

August 8, 2009 - 10:23 pm EDT

elaine for your imformation the summer roger spend with me and his dad he didnt want to come home he told me he wanted to stay with us but he want to hurt you roger loved his dad where you think he did or not he talked to me all the time when his dad was at work

mamaboilermaker

August 8, 2009 - 7:47 am EDT

It's a shame adults have to complicate children's lives because they can't get along. I feel for kids who have to fill out official forms about their parents when the relationships are not legally clear. The Marines can't get involved in family battles, so it makes sense to me that they have a cut-and-dried, no nonsense formula for efficiently delivering stuff. They are the Marines, not a family counselor or a probate judge.

That said, it should be simple to just allow a soldier to designate a person of his/her choice to receive belongings in case of a casualty--even to designate a non relative, given that some family situations are pretty bad. That policy would make nasty legal battles unnecessary.

elaina0915

August 8, 2009 - 10:28 am EDT

no I am the mom and dad to Roger I raised him I supported him I guided him where was the sperm donor now my son is dead he wants to know him ? when a child puts down who the beneficiary that is who get all should go to not to a parent who is older nor even on birth records or any other legal documents roger did not say he was to have it all no mention that he was to get anything

tweetybaby77

August 8, 2009 - 8:54 pm EDT

Well since you are trying to make a big stink out of this why don't you let these folks know about the stunts you pulled at Rogers funeral. It was all for you not for anyone else. You told folks that they had to leave and they could only come back until you said it was ok. You about had the cops called on you because you were making such a scene. All you were worried about is getting your way. The last time I checked a funeral was for family and friends to come and say their last goodbyes. But not this one you clearly stated it was all for you. You have always been a selfish person. Something I am so glad Roger didn't get from you because he was a completely selfless person who gave his life for the country he loved. Do you really think he would be happy knowing that you were acting like this. I don't!!!!!

elaina0915

August 8, 2009 - 9:25 pm EDT

this is crazy u just talk I am not going to even touch that and please dont act like you know my son now that he is gone roger had his own phone and none of you called him I get the bills

tweetybaby77

August 8, 2009 - 10:28 pm EDT

we didnt know his number or would have called him when you gave us a phone number a week later you change it so we could call

bravesfan6000

August 8, 2009 - 11:19 am EDT

Hello Elaine, My heart goes out to you in your time of grief. I can not imagine loosing my son like you lost yours. Have you considered contacting the President? He may be able to help you get your sons belongings back. Again I am truly sorry for your loss.

elaina0915

August 8, 2009 - 12:15 pm EDT

I have emailed the President but have not heard back from him I have written the congressman Howard and his receptionist called me but was not helpfull everyone tells me this is not right but yet I am not getting anywhere I have not found one lawyer to help me yet I have called several of them and not a one returned my call I did speak with a retired jag and he has not hear of this marine law and wish me luck

oh good grief

August 8, 2009 - 1:31 pm EDT

I dislike thinking what I am thinking, but consider this. If a soldier's next-of-kin are his mother and his father, how many times do you think the mother would be the older of the two parents? I believe not even half as many times as the father would be the older of the two parents. Probably a holdover rule/policy from a formerly all-male military.

Elaine, I send my condolences on the loss of your son. May you find peace.

elaina0915

August 8, 2009 - 1:38 pm EDT

thank you some don't see this as we do but if anyone can help me or know someone who could help please do contact me at and anyone who knows milatary law please contact me so i can leave my number i need one good lawyer to fight

ravencottage

August 8, 2009 - 1:52 pm EDT

I would suggest you contact news media in and around Shelbyville TN. Perhaps the public shame of a well placed news article will be enough to convince Graves into doing the right thing and giving you the belongings. Here is a site which should have all the lists of local and surrounding media....just scroll down the site. http://www.city-data.com/city/Shelbyville-Tennessee.html

tweetybaby77

August 8, 2009 - 9:08 pm EDT

It is funny how everyone on here is so quick to judge whenever you all don't know the whole truth. I am Mr. Graves daughter-in-law and I know for a fact that he has tried to find Roger several times since I have been in this family. And what his mom fails to know is that Roger and his father have been in contact with each other via My Space. I know this for a fact because Mr. Graves used my computer to talk to Roger. So for someone whom thinks she knows it all she really don't know much does she. She kept a father from his son for many years now she just keeps twisting the knife in his heart. It is all about what she wants she doesn't care that Mr. Graves and the rest of his side of the family including me are just as saddend by losing Roger as she is.

elaina0915

August 8, 2009 - 9:22 pm EDT

sorry your wrong on this I knew he chatted with tammy I knew who is friends where on myspace one thing I was strict at was what my children seen and watched and did on the computer anyone who knows me knows I was very strict when it came to the computer with my children I am the one who set thier computer up and Funny if he did chit chat then please do tell me How come no one in your family know his phone number 1 how come no gifts 2or cards came 3 and most of all how come your family never knew Roger was in the service till I called them and told them about Roger

tweetybaby77

August 8, 2009 - 9:56 pm EDT

You know so much look at his friends list I am listed as KK. And as for you comment above about me not knowing him well I hate to burst your little bubble again but I also talked with him on My Space and I did get to meet Roger the summer he lived with his dad. And guess what he didn't want to come home to you the only reason he did was because he didn't want you to cause trouble for his dad. So now what do you have to say. This isn't his dad yopu are talking to and I am not afraid to tell the truth about you. Stevie just doesn't want to hurt you more than you are already hurting but you are not the only one hurting. And another thing about knowing Roger maybe we would have all known him a little better had you not tried so hard to keep him all to yourself.

tweetybaby77

August 8, 2009 - 9:57 pm EDT

We did know he was in the service, he told us that himself. So now what?

Shirllandry

August 8, 2009 - 1:44 pm EDT

I am surprised that the Military would take this kind of action. I would think that if they acknowledged the residence of Roger to be with his mother..all his belongings should go to his mother. I realize that the Marines is not a family counselor, but at the same time, they presented his mother with his awards, they gave the funeral where his mother lives, so why not give her his belongings. If this were my child I would feel like they were slapping me in the face telling me I am not the one he chose. If the boy would have known this was how it would be handled I believe that he would have made certain that his father would not have ever been listed!! Elaine I am sorry this nightmare keeps dragging out for you and your family. The Marines should be standing behind you 100% on this, they need to see the sacrifice you have given, your son died defending our country...HE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A HERO..and he always will be in my eyes.

hellraiser379

August 8, 2009 - 2:07 pm EDT

thats just wrong for a person that wasnt even in his life to get anything and if his sperm doner and thats all he is to your son had any decentcy or heart at all he would hand everything over to his mother and sir if you are reading these please do the right thing you have to know down in your heart he would have wanted his mother to have his belongings you were never in his life anyway just do the right thing surly you know right from wrong

auntterri1322

August 8, 2009 - 2:44 pm EDT

It's a disgrace that his belongings are being sent to a man that was only a sperm donor!! NOT a father. His mother should get all of his belongings and decide IF she wants said "father" to have anything. She is the one that was always there for him, raised him and loved him like no other person on God's green earth. And she is the one that is hurting and suffering the most from his death!!
THANK YOU ELAINE, for selflessly giving your son, so that my daughter (who had a sperm donor only as a father) and I can sleep soundly at night. GOD BLESS YOU & KEEP YOU in this your worst hour.
Terri

pigsfly

August 8, 2009 - 9:18 pm EDT

elaina0195- Get in touch with your Districts Congressman's Office and see what they can do to help you out.That is one of the reasons they are there for, their constituents needs. I would try that first before you get an attorney.
God Bless You and your family, and the Bravery of your sons!

elaina0915

August 8, 2009 - 9:27 pm EDT

Sorry. But I already wrote them and the president receive one response so far and they r looking but been two weeks now

tweetybaby77

August 8, 2009 - 10:00 pm EDT

And let just say his dad got a letter from the President, guess what it was addressed to Mr. Graves. He also recieved letters from folks he served beside saying that Roger had talked about his dad and that they are sorry for his lose. Which is more than I can say you offered.

justis4all

August 8, 2009 - 11:08 pm EDT

I think all of you should shut the hell up!!!! Especially elaina0915 and tweetybaby77!!!!!!!!! A man is dead!! He served our country in a way some people don't even have the nerve to follow. Let him rest in PEACE!!!!!!!!

tweetybaby77

August 8, 2009 - 11:59 pm EDT

Justis4all, we would like to let Roger rest in peace but it is hard to do when she is on here spreading so many lies about my father in law. All we want is to be left alone and let us mourn Roger in peace but she will not let us. She is having reporters and others call my father in law accusing him of so many things that it is tearing him apart. But does she care about that.No. My father in law was going to give Elaina back Rogers stuff until she started all this crap. All he wants is something to remember his son by. At the funeral my mother and father in law sent a flower arrangement that had fish on it because Roger liked to go fishing, she had it put in a back room because she said it was ugly and this day was about her grief and no one elses. She isn't the only one that lost someone we all did and we all love him. It is a point that needs to be made because there are people on this site bashing my father in law solely based on what she is saying. Its not right.

ARMYMOM

August 9, 2009 - 12:24 am EDT

This young man was a very special person to do and learn the job he had to do.He did it out of respect and love for his country.Your son is looking down watching you listening...is this what you truely want him to see? My son is currently leaving Iraq as I type this ...I know if something had happen to him he wouldn't have wanted any of us to act the way you are acting ...I Thank your son for his service..let him rest in peace..He gave it all...what have we given?

elaina0915

August 9, 2009 - 7:04 am EDT

look the dad's ex in laws can put me down try to tick me off ok so do it I don't care I know the truth and so does his other son I am Fighting the marines For my Sons personal items the boy I raised all his life the only legal parent the one whom didn't not say he is not mine in the court of law .I have personal letter that was written to my son there is personal family information in the phone and laptop that some perfect stranger does not need to know about my family

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