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Earl Jones charts an offbeat legislative course

Sunday, August 2, 2009
(Updated 7:26 am)

RALEIGH — If nothing else, Rep. Earl Jones knows how to grab a headline.

This year alone, the Greensboro Democrat has sponsored legislation to return video poker to the state, two bills that would legalize medical marijuana, a measure urging stores to provide sanitizing wipes for shopping carts and a funding request for a Starfleet Academy complex at N.C. A&T.

Yes, as in “Live long and prosper.”

Strangely enough, when Jones spent time in July shepherding a Senate proposal to regulate possession of exotic reptiles through the House, it was one of the least exotic bills he handled this year.

“Just because I’m a visionary and have insight that other people may not have, that doesn’t mean I should stifle myself from leading people or trying to lead the legislature into forward-thinking laws that benefit the public,” Jones said last week, standing in the courtyard between the House and Senate chambers.

Jones, 60, is a four-term legislator. He was first elected a year after he was ousted from an 18-year run on the Greensboro City Council.

He has been married for 36 years. A lawyer by training, Jones is now the publisher of the Greensboro Times newspaper.

During his legislative run, Jones has never been one to shy away from bills that push political buttons. In 2005 and 2007, he championed measures to fund embryonic stem-cell research, controversial because of divergent beliefs about when human life begins. At the time, research funding was limited by the federal government.

Those restrictions have been eased considerably by President Barack Obama .

“The future caught up with me,” Jones said.

That cocksure attitude comes through when Jones talks about his current quest to make video poker a legally sanctioned industry again in North Carolina.

The General Assembly voted to ban the games in 2006. Lawmakers were spurred by the creation of a state lottery and corruption investigations that looked into then-House Speaker Jim Black’s dealings with the industry. Black is now serving jail time on corruption charges not directly related to the games.

Jones said a legalized video poker industry could bring in $500 million per year to state coffers and head off the unregulated proliferation of sweepstakes-style gambling machines that are finding their way into convenience stores.

“It was a mess, and that’s not ancient history,” said Bob Hall , who heads the watchdog group Democracy North Carolina. Hall filed the original video poker complaint against Black and sees its return as bad for the state. Hall said he doesn’t take issue with Jones personally but disagrees with the policy he’s pushing.

In fact, other legislators like Sen. Tony Rand of Fayetteville and Rep. Ray Rapp of Mars Hill are pushing legislation to stamp out the last vestiges of video poker.

“I have great respect and admiration for Rep. Jones,” Rapp said last week. “But on this one issue, he’s trying to take us down a path that’s wrong for the state.”

Jones has a two-word answer for the criticism.

“They’re wrong,” he said.

The state already runs a lottery, and Jones said he sees little philosophical space between that and video poker.

Jones has been pressing his case for video poker in closed-door meetings of the House Democratic Caucus. Few think he will succeed this year.

“He doesn’t mind tackling issues that are somewhat controversial,” said Rep. Hugh Holliman, the House majority leader from Lexington and No. 2 ranking member of the caucus.

Holliman said the memory of problems surrounding video poker during Black’s tenure as speaker would likely ward off attempts to return the games to the state this year, but he doesn’t fault Jones for trying.

“He’s a very active member; he doesn’t mind giving you his input,” Holliman said. “And certainly he’s respected within our caucus, and we all know that he’s going to stand up for what he thinks is right.”

Those stands don’t always work out.

Democratic leaders have been unwilling to unearth the can of political worms that is the medical marijuana debate. And Jones’ bill to encourage stores to offer their customers sanitary wipes to clean shopping cart handles failed on a 44-73 vote amid howls about burdensome regulations and cries that consumers should look after their own health — or at least wash their own hands.

Last week, a conservative think tank in Raleigh took aim at a bill he filed to honor the late Ronald McNair, a NASA astronaut and A&T graduate, by creating a “Starfleet Academy complex” at A&T.

The measure, filed in April, never came close to inclusion in this year’s budget.

Jones is seemingly oblivious to the “Star Trek” jokes — including one Internet video parody that lampoons his bill. He said the project could help spur science education by playing on the popular science fiction series’ brand.

“I don’t worry about that,” Jones said. “When I talked to them a couple of months ago, I told them the possibility or chances of it getting funded are pretty much zero to none. But at least it’s out there getting debated; people can examine it.”

Rep. John Blust, a Greensboro Republican, heard Jones talking about the academy outside the House chamber and added his two cents.

“If this is ultimately successful, will some day I be able to be beamed up?” Blust joked.

Jones faces at least one challenger in the 2010 election — Marcus Brandon is already raising money for his run against Jones in the Democratic primary — and some of Jones’ positions could prove politically perilous.

At the least, they could take away from items that some constituents might like to see get more attention.

“Video poker is not an issue for me one way or the other,” said the Rev. Cardes Brown , a well-known preacher and NAACP leader who said he is giving his individual support to Brandon . Neither the NAACP nor his church are allowed to endorse candidates.

“What my number is is 8/40 — eight hours a day, 40 hours a week,” Brown said. “We need people to go up and speak for the issues and concerns of the people.

“My issue is more, 'What are you fighting for legislatively that’s really in the interest of the citizenry?’”

Jones said he’s determined to chart his own legislative course, damn the torpedoes — photon, political or otherwise — all in the interest of the citizens in his district.

“Once I come to a conclusion this is in the best interest of the public, I don’t look at other considerations,” Jones said.

An unlucky campaign season or freak accident could keep him from returning to the General Assembly, Jones said. So there’s no time like the present to push policies in which he’s interested.

“Because the thing about it is,” Jones said, “ain’t nothing guaranteed except when you’re here. If you operate on 'maybe I’ll do it next time,’ or 'maybe I’ll do it in an off year,’ or 'this is a political year,’ you can’t operate like that.

“This is guaranteed right now. OK? … Some people drop dead.”

Contact Mark Binker at (919) 832-5549 or mark.binker@news-record.com
 

Accompanying Photos

Photo Caption: Rep. Earl Jones

REP. EARL JONES’ BILLS
Among the measures Rep. Earl Jones has championed this year:

  • H 1537: Video Gaming Entertainment Act would make video poker legal again. Jones has been gathering support for the measure but not enough to move it out of committee.
  • H 1623: N.C. A&T McNair Center Funds would set aside $1.7 million to develop a “Starfleet Academy” complex at A&T. The measure was filed but never included in budget negotiations.
  • H 1658: Honor Walter Cronkite would pay tribute to the legendary newsman who had virtually no ties to North Carolina.
  • H 1591: GA Members/Full Time Legislative Assistants would grant all lawmakers year-round, full-time legislative help. Currently, rank-and-file members like Jones have part-time legislative aides.
  • H 1384: Shopping Carts/Prevent Exposure to Germs would have encouraged all retail stores with carts to provide sanitary wipes for the handles. The measure was voted down in the House 44-73.
  • H 1380: Medical Marijuana Act would enable cancer patients and others to use marijuana without threat of state prosecution.
  • S 307: Regulate Ownership and Use of Certain Reptiles creates rules for the handling, ownership and release of venomous snakes, large constricting snakes and certain crocodilians. Jones handled the bill in the House for a Senate colleague, and it has passed into law.

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Panacea

August 2, 2009 - 8:55 am EDT

I like most of what Jones has supported recently, except the video poker. He's wrong that there's no difference between the state lottery and video poker.

Video poker can be gamed by the owners easily. You don't know if the game you are playing has been manipulated to keep you from winning. This is a problem with electronic gambling that has existed since it was first invented. Lotteries have their own problems, but not on the scale of video poker.

jackhartjj

August 2, 2009 - 10:21 am EDT

There is no difference in the lottery and video poker. Both are played by folks that do not do math very well!
Ask yourself how many of your friends play the lottery...and how many have made enough so called winnings to have got more than they put in it?

Panacea

August 2, 2009 - 9:16 pm EDT

Well, I'll agree that playing the lottery is not very smart. But it can't be gamed the way video poker is.

Jones saying video poker is no worse than the lottery is simply not true.

JUANITA

August 13, 2009 - 1:25 pm EDT

i think people should have a right play lottery, video gaming, as long as the fee is coming from their pocket
and its extra money they have to spend most people don't have extra money these days and they try to
increase what little they have even if it don't grow.

rmacz

August 2, 2009 - 9:06 am EDT

The lottery was not the will of the people every time it came up for a vote. Easley pushed it through after certain law makers had left early. Earl is conniving the same way. The press has had too many stories about this. The whole country is using this same template. Just screw the will of the people. I know some idiots will follow my opinion, but they do not represent the majority.

jackhartjj

August 2, 2009 - 10:18 am EDT

No, Black, (Who is in jail!) adjourned and sent everyone home...then called them back...knowing a couple that would not have supported the lottery would not make it back!

rmacz

August 2, 2009 - 10:29 am EDT

You're exactly right, this was my point. This wasn't put up for a public vote.

Interested

August 2, 2009 - 12:32 pm EDT

Few items are put up for a public vote. The lottery was not, and should not have been, any different from any other issue. Voting on legislation is what we elect our officials to do. It is our responsibility as voters to let them know where we stand BEFORE they vote. How many complainants have done just that? I'd wager it is a small percentage of the constituency. And if the vote on any particular issue doesn't go our way, then perhaps it is because our representatives have heard from more voters on the other side of the fence.

rmacz

August 2, 2009 - 10:04 pm EDT

When it comes to people like you and Jones, the old saying comes to mind, "Just follow the money".

Mark Binker

August 2, 2009 - 11:31 am EDT

Just to correct your history...it was NOT black who sent his members home and called them back. That happened in the Senate.

rmacz

August 2, 2009 - 11:58 am EDT

Actually, Harry Brown was on his honeymoon, and John Garwood was ill. The vote was 61 to 59.

jackhartjj

August 2, 2009 - 3:43 pm EDT

Binker, technically you are right, here is a link.
http://www.lunenburg.org/wade/articles/2005/08/31/lotto-south/

However black and his ilk, including perdue (Non caps intended on names due to no respect deserved) have a lot of blood on their hands for this whole lottery sham!

Mark Binker

August 2, 2009 - 10:19 pm EDT

Folks: expressing no opinion about the lottery one way or the other. However, just to lay out the short history of this thing from 2005:

Harry Brown and John Garwood are senators. There are only 50 members of the state senate. The 61-59 vote was in the House.

The House vote on the lottery was in April of 2005 and it was, indeed, 61-59. The vote was taken during a regular session.

The big controversy with that vote was that some people thought the lottery was a tax. The state constitution requires votes on two separate days for tax measures. The House took both votes on the same day. That issue was taken to court and decided in favor of the GA/lottery.

Language key to the lottery was also included in that year's version of the budget, which passed before the Senate took its vote. This was considered a bit odd (sneaky if you opposed the lottery) because it allow proponents to change the lottery bill so it could pass the Senate without forcing the House to take a concurrence vote. (If the Senate had changed the lottery bill itself, the House would have had to vote to concur with the changes...with a 61-59 margin the first time, proponents didn't want to risk a second go.)

But the lottery bill did not pass the Senate until late August of that year. And, in fact, there had had been a short recess and legislators had to be called back to town. Sen. Harry Brown could not be reached, putatively because he was on a honeymoon (or second honeymoon) and Sen. Garwood was, in fact, ill. Neither man made provisions to "pair," a procedure by which their opinions on major bills can be recorded even if they're not in the chamber.

The vote was 24-24. Then-Lt. Gov. Bev Perdue voted to break the tie in favor of the lottery.

None of that is to discount opinions about the lottery or the people involved -- but I did want to give you a more precise history of the bill.

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