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N.C. A&T, UNCG plan layoffs if state budget cut is 10%

Friday, July 24, 2009
(Updated 8:00 am)

GREENSBORO — UNCG and N.C. A&T have released  proposals to cut 10  percent from their respective 2009-2010 budgets, ahead of what likely will be greatly reduced state funding.

UNCG would cut more than $17 million from its budget, and A&T, more than  $10.5 million.

The proposals call for the loss of the equivalent of 156  full-time positions at UNCG and 71 at A&T.

At UNCG, 76 of those positions would be faculty. At A&T, 35 faculty positions would be eliminated.

UNCG Chancellor Linda Brady stressed that no final decision has been made, but layoffs likely would be inevitable if funding is reduced.

“Of course, we are going to try to eliminate positions that are now vacant first,” Brady said. “But at a cut of 10 percent, we are going to have to look at eliminating positions that are now filled.”

A&T Chancellor Harold Martin said announcing layoffs is especially hard given the economy.

“We’re trying to avoid laying off anyone, from anywhere in the university knowing the economic climate they’ll be dealing with,” Martin said. “But we’re trying to be good stewards of the public funds and protect the core academic mission of our universities at the same time.”

Though the General Assembly has yet to pass a 2009-10 budget, all 16  schools in the UNC system are providing such proposals to UNC General Administration. UNC President Erskine Bowles instructed the campuses to plan for a 10 percent cut for the next two years.

When projections for all the campuses have been assembled, Bowles will send his estimate to the UNC Board of Governors and present it to the General Assembly. The budget process will be discussed at the next Board of Governors meeting on Aug. 13-14.

The most visible immediate effect of a 10 percent cut at the campuses could be faculty and staff layoffs, but both chancellors said the ripple effect on the quality of education, faculty retention and graduation rates could be felt for years.

Among the direct effects for students:

-- About 6,000 fewer classroom seats available at UNCG,  about 3,000 fewer at A&T.

-- About 200 fewer course sections available at UNCG, about 100 fewer at A&T.

-- Students would be able to generate nearly 18,000 fewer credit hours per year at UNCG, nearly 9,000 fewer at A&T.

UNCG Provost David Perrin said the result would be students having trouble getting the classes they need, taking longer and spending more to graduate.

“And we have another record enrollment this year,” Perrin said.

As of this week, UNCG has 2,535 freshmen arriving for the fall semester and 16,334 students total.

Projected fall enrollment for A&T were not available Thursday.

“I’m already hearing from students who are having trouble getting what they need when they register for classes,” Perrin said.

Both Brady and Martin said their schools have done what they can to make sure that when students begin arriving next month for the fall semester, they’ll be able to get the courses they need.

“Quite frankly, what has us worried is what is going to happen in the spring semester,” Martin said. “If the economy continues to worsen over the course of the year and the faculty positions we’ve temporarily taken offline we have to eliminate for the whole year, then it’s going to have an impact on our campus and our ability to deliver the full selection of courses.”

Contact Joe Killian at 373-7023 or joe.killian@news-record.com
 

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antionette922

July 23, 2009 - 4:09 pm EDT

Makes me wonder -- they can cut $17 million from the budget and still operate. Was that money being wasted all along. Were there position that could have been cut before??

histrion

July 23, 2009 - 4:24 pm EDT

Ummm... well... sure. As I'm sure your company could cut your position if they suddenly found themselves with 10% less revenue. Unless you're the boss.

76 faculty positions is a heck of a lot of teachers -- you know, the folks that actually perform the core function of a university. 79 non-faculty (already hit hard by recent cuts) is a heck of a lot of groundspeople, maintenance workers, cooks, administrative assistants, security guards / police, etc., etc. -- the folks that actually keep the university from falling apart at the seams and keep the students healthy and safe.

Your company could probably operate without you, but would it survive? Thrive? Be able to truly perform its mission?

Joekillian

July 23, 2009 - 4:32 pm EDT

The positions can be eliminated, certainly.

But it's going to result in larger class sizes, fewer sections of classes, less course selection, a larger load borne by remaining professors and a reduced chance of up-and-coming professors getting adjunct positions, Teaching Assistant positions or other positions that will lead to full-time professorships.

ravencottage

July 23, 2009 - 6:38 pm EDT

So what? If you don't have the money you don't have the money...unless you are the government and decide to forcibly confiscate it from taxpayers.

newkid

July 23, 2009 - 7:26 pm EDT

"So what?" So, why don't we make it up by putting a 100% tax on bonuses being awarded at investment companies and banks that took OUR bailout money? By any standard, those folks deserve a little payback and I for one would rather keep college professors and tax, yes, TAX those free-wheeling-out-of-control financial/investment/banking types.

ravencottage

July 23, 2009 - 8:05 pm EDT

Kay Hagan(D) and Brad Miller(D) voted for the bill which authorized the AIG bonuses and Barack Obama(D) signed it. I guess they can't be held responsible since none of the 3 read it.

greywolf

July 23, 2009 - 10:32 pm EDT

You know, generally I attempt to craft an intelligent comment for these boards... However, the most witty response that comes to mind re: ravencottage's comment is: What an idiot!

ravencottage

July 24, 2009 - 8:11 am EDT

sorry you can't handle the truth...why don't you call up chris dodd and find out

greywolf

July 25, 2009 - 6:27 pm EDT

Wow... what a witty response.

dfayers

July 23, 2009 - 10:12 pm EDT

You could sever a leg and still live. Does that mean your leg is a waste of body tissue?

Joekillian

July 23, 2009 - 7:24 pm EDT

Those who are laid off at the schools certainly have personal reasons for worrying.

But the numbers that concern students, parents and should concern anyone else interested in the health of higher education in the state come in this paragraph:

Among the direct effects for students:

* Approximately 6,000 fewer classroom seats available at UNCG, approximately 3,000 fewer at A&T.
* About 200 fewer course sections available at UNCG, about 100 fewer at A&T.
* Students will be able to generate nearly 18,000 fewer credit hours at UNCG, nearly 9,000 fewer at A&T.

UNCG Provost David Perrin said the end result will be more students having trouble getting the classes they need, taking longer and spending more to graduate and, potentially, dropping out.

invisibleman

July 24, 2009 - 11:56 am EDT

The class size at UNCG is already to large. Math classes with 50+ people. Science classes with 90+ people and I'm not talking about the basic classes that everyone have to take like Algebra 1, Biology 101, etc. I'm referring to upper level classes. The intro maths are 90 and the biology class sizes are at 250, yes that is not an error 250. Not to mention the online math classes. I went to a school very similar to UNCG with no football team, same population, and same demographic and our class size was MUCH smaller. There are people at the school who have no idea when they will graduate not because they can't pass, or can't pay, but because the class the student needs to graduate is not available.

igliigli

July 23, 2009 - 7:45 pm EDT

It is sickening that UNCG and A&T consider sports more important than academics.
They should be firing all the coaches, not hiring more.

Beadbaby

July 23, 2009 - 8:29 pm EDT

Sports make more money for the school than academics.

Joekillian

July 23, 2009 - 8:52 pm EDT

That really depends on the school. Neither of these schools are making the kind of money from sports that people are usually talking about when they cite sports programs as huge money-makers.

Of course, neither of them are spending as much on those programs either.

Either way -- the state budget cuts that are leading to these steep cuts and layoffs don't have anything to do with the schools' respective sports programs and would be happening whether they had them or not.

fatboyfanuci

July 23, 2009 - 10:08 pm EDT

UNCG makes nothing off the schlock they consider sports. If they had a football team, then maybe. And, I worked in three departments at UNCG and the waste is absolutely unreal. You should see the money they throw away at parties and departmental functions.

youvegottobekidding

July 23, 2009 - 11:37 pm EDT

I'd like to know what functions you've attended. I've never seen anything like this in the over twenty years I've been at the university. Unfortunately, these are easy accusations to make......

tuffi

July 24, 2009 - 9:25 am EDT

I've been at UNCG for 25 years and I haven't experienced those parties. Our group always pays for anything we have ourselves. We pay for our own coffee. What departments were you in?!

mtreeder

July 24, 2009 - 12:06 pm EDT

Equally sickening is the way you ALWAYS bring up athletics as the cause of UNCG's problem. It's waste in other areas that has gotten UNCG in the current state it is in. You sound like a broken record. Actually, you sound like the kid that always got picked last at recess. Get over it and get your facts straight.

spartan01

July 24, 2009 - 2:14 pm EDT

For several months, I have watched your comments about athletics and have held back. First it was on the issue of replacing the quad. Now budget shortfalls.

To educate you, athletics at UNCG are funded by student fees, not state budget dollars. UNCG is one of the few schools in the state where this is the case.

Before you want to always bash the university's athletic department and money that is spent on it, it might be helpful to have the proper knowledge.

bs_dash

July 27, 2009 - 1:44 pm EDT

No need to give useful facts. Check any NC newspaper on a given day and you'll see the exact same comments from him/her about firing coaches, administrators, blah, blah, etc.

I, however, agree that I've seen too many of these to not finally say something.

Panacea

July 23, 2009 - 10:13 pm EDT

Hmm. And a consultant just released a report saying that the UNC system spends twice as much on administration than education, with most "supervisors" managing only 3 people.

Cut the fat in admin before laying off faculty.

nippded twistle

July 23, 2009 - 10:55 pm EDT

There is no way we will see that fat cats at UNCG take a cut of any type. Be sure that cuts will be from the bottom up.

I dare anyone at UNCG earning over 100k to take a 10% reduction in pay in order to preserve the noble mission of the University.

nclawkid

July 23, 2009 - 11:38 pm EDT

You're mistaken. The report concluded that UNC-Chapel Hill is spending excessively on administrative staffing, NOT the entire UNC system.

You should really get your facts right before you start casting blame.

gsoreader

July 24, 2009 - 3:12 pm EDT

igliigli

July 25, 2009 - 8:34 am EDT

Now that Executive Order 20 has been signed, when is UNCG and A&T going to fire their coaches?
The sports teams are the most wasteful spending in the UNC System.

bs_dash

July 27, 2009 - 1:36 pm EDT

Wow, another post about firing coaches.

In other news ... the sky is still blue, and water remains wet.

jpbritta

July 27, 2009 - 8:13 pm EDT

Are you kidding me? Firing coaches and getting rid of the whole athletic department. Thats one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. I don't know where you think UNCG is getting their funding from but its not from government funding. If you were ever a student there you would notice it in your bill every year. I was happy to pay my athletic fee as a student and im happy to be part of the Spartan Club now as an alumni! Athletics is a way to stay connected to the university. One in which I, and obviously many others love. Why don't you try enjoying it instead of bashing it. No our UNCG athletics isn't a household name but neither is UNCG academics. Does that mean that our academics aren't good? No. Does that mean that our sports teams aren't good? No. I have seen both amazing things in UNCG's academics and athletics. Usually the name of an institute gets out to the masses by athletics. So get out to a game. If you care for something then you want to cheer it on.

mtreeder

July 28, 2009 - 10:55 am EDT

Do you know the definition of a troll on a message board? Basically, it's you. How about debating the people calling you out on the silly stuff you always say instead of repeating the same thing over and over again. You're a waste of bandwidth.

milkmoney

July 27, 2009 - 2:36 pm EDT

I currently work for a university.... I think the cut backs are a good thing.... it's a way of weeding out the deadbeat SPA workers that should have been let go a long time ago.... I say kudos to the budget cuts!!!!

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