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Council expresses regret over '79 shootings

Wednesday, June 17, 2009
(Updated Thursday, June 18 - 7:29 am)

GREENSBORO — It was a much debated, carefully worded statement.

Thirty years after a Greensboro shooting — and four years after the issue first came before the City Council — the council said Tuesday night that it regretted the 1979 killings at Morningside Homes and pledged to help the city heal.

The council voted 5 to 4 to approve a statement of regret about the incident — one of the recommendations the city Humans Relations Commission made after studying the shootings and the 2006 Truth and Reconciliation Commission report about it.

Council members Mike Barber, Zack Matheny, Mary Rakestraw and Trudy Wade voted no.

Five people were killed and 10 were injured in November 1979 during a confrontation between Ku Klux Klan members and neo-Nazis and Communist Workers Party members.

Previous councils had voted to oppose the Truth and Reconciliation Commission process and not consider its recommendations.

On Tuesday, residents and human relations representatives urged the council members to address the issue.

“Acknowledge it and tell the world this won’t happen in Greensboro ever again,” said Randall Keeney, a minister.

The city attorney added language to the statement of regret to ensure that the council did not unknowingly create any legal liability for the city.

Others asked the city to stop dwelling on the shootings, which some said did not represent the current state of race relations in Greensboro.

“I will tell you what my generation is talking about,” Matheny said. “Look at our successes. Let us move on.”

In other action, the council voted to have the city staff explore options for trash disposal in the city.

The issue was raised after Councilman Mike Barber asked that the city consider dumping up to 50,000 tons of residential trash at the White Street Landfill, which was closed to household refuse in 2006.

Council members did not take Barber’s recommendation to consider expanding the use of the White Street Landfill. Last week, council members learned that the city could save $2.9 million a year by using the landfill instead of a transfer station that sends off the city’s trash.

Barber suggested that savings from using the landfill could go toward city libraries or a planned day center for homeless residents.

Residents near the landfill have been on the defensive in the past few weeks, protesting Barber’s recommendations.

Council members debated the issue at two meetings Tuesday. Some members were clear that they did not want to expand the landfill under any circumstances. But others, including Mayor Yvonne Johnson, argued that the city should explore the city’s trash options, including alternative technologies.

“That way we can get all the facts on the table and make the best decision,” Councilman Robbie Perkins said.

Other council members agreed with Perkins. They approved suggestions by Wade, who wanted the city to ask the state Department of Environment and Natural Resources to review potential health risks of the city landfill and another, abandoned landfill on Nealtown Road.

Contact Amanda Lehmert at 373-7075 or amanda.lehmert@news-record.com
 

Accompanying Photos

File photo (News & Record)

Photo Caption: Each of the people killed in the Nov. 3, 1979, shootings are represented by a white rose and a photograph during a Truth and Reconciliation hearing in 2005.

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News and notes from the meeting

  • The city will not cut any additional funds from the library system. County commissioners contributed $350,000 less than expected to the city libraries when they passed the 2009-2010 budget. The city will reduce the money that it contributes to a worker’s compensation insurance fund to make up for the loss.
  • Council members did not approve the 2009-2010 city budget Tuesday night as originally planned, due to last minute discussions about water rates and other issues. They plan to have another budget workshop on June 22 and pass the budget June 23. They must adopt a new budget by June 30.
  • A $20 million bond referendum will be on the November ballot to fund renovations of the Natural Science Center, the City Council agreed Tuesday night.

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Panacea

June 17, 2009 - 12:16 pm EDT

The Greensboro Police have an duty to preserve the peace. It DOES NOT MATTER that the CWP told the police to stay away. It does not matter. The police had a duty to act, and did not do so.

Your refusal to blame anyone but the CWP for what happened is the reason why the Commission has to exist. Because the victims of this crime--the families of the dead and injured, and the neighborhood that was turned into a war zone, deserve an accounting from the city that failed to maintain law and order and allowed a battle to take place on city streets.

This is not supposed to be a third world country with an ineffectual government and law enforcement. This is supposed to be America, where people have the right to air their grievances free from the threat of violence.

Beachwalk

June 17, 2009 - 12:51 pm EDT

I'm still waiting Panacea. When will you admit the CWP brought a lot of this on themselves?
I have said the CWP, the Klan/Nazis were all to blame. But I will not and Greensboro should not admit the Police was at fault for the CWP asking for trouble and then getting exactly what they asked for.
Although I do not agree with many decision the GPD have made, 1979 was not their fault.

Panacea

June 17, 2009 - 11:11 pm EDT

This is the first time you've come close to admitting the Klan/Nazis had any blame in this. I've said before the CWP has their share of blame for what happened, but that's not the point. The point is, Greensboro PD did the wrong thing. They could have prevented this tragedy, and did not. I want Greensboro to step up and own responsibility for that.

johnnybegood

June 17, 2009 - 9:57 am EDT

NEWS FLASH! BREAKING NEWS! The city council of greensboro now makes public APOLOGIES for crimes commited by others. I wonder if they will apologize for all my parking tickets that i received downtown or perhaps when i was loving the clubs and the women downtown that the city of greensboro loves to tempt me and others with so well. Will the city council apologize for my addiction to the downtown nightlife, and all the booze i consume downtown! IT IS YOUR FAULT GREENSBORO---APOLOGIZE! Get my point? This could really open up pandoras box people...Apologize for this and that --its your fault greensboro...sniffs, wipes tears ...whatever!

Panacea

June 17, 2009 - 12:18 pm EDT

The current city council represents the City of Greensboro. Their statement of regret is the voice of the City, which is more than 100 years old, for the failure of the City to maintain law and order in 1979. The council are not apologizing or taking responsibility for themselves, but for the City which is a seperate entity. If they don't want to be in the position of having to speak for the City on all matters, regardless of time, then they should resign from office.

Beachwalk

June 17, 2009 - 12:31 pm EDT

"The current city council represents the City of Greensboro"
You are exactly right and the majority of citizens of Greensboro do NOT want to see or hear about the 1979 CWP/Klan incident anymore. It only divides. It does NOTHING to heal. Just look at this thread. have you seen anybodies opinions come even remotely close to changing?

Panacea

June 17, 2009 - 11:14 pm EDT

By your own words, you prove my point. The majority of Greensboro citizens DO want to see this resolved. That's why the Council finally bent and issued the statement of regret. Greensboro residents know they have to come to terms with what happened, and that the city must accept ownership of its role.

The City will heal. It came one step closer today.

It's people like you who keep the issue divisive because you want to keep the status quo.

Get Real

June 18, 2009 - 2:18 am EDT

i guess DC should close down the holocaust museum, because you know, it was like, soooo long ago, and like you know, history is stupid and stuff. germany apologized for it, but europeans are kinda weirdos. this is america. and besides, if the holocaust museum didn't exist that white supremacist wouldn't have gone in there with a gun. it's only there to stir up trouble by the jewish racists.

northoftheboro

June 17, 2009 - 8:10 am EDT

The city council decision to even consider this Nov. 1979 incident is ridiculous. The city of GSO showed enough "regret" in the 1980's when a civil suit's verdict forced the city to pay out $350,000 in taxpayers money; therefore this case should not have even been discussed any further. Last night's vote to acknowledge the Klan-Communist Workers incident shows how backwards this city has become, while even more important issues like nightly home invasions, daily business robberies, and gang-style shootings were thrown to the back-burner. "Leadership" such as this is why I moved from Greensboro years ago and is a reason why I take my business to Winston-Salem instead of spending my money, and risk being robbed/shot, in the Gate City.

Highmiles

June 17, 2009 - 8:55 am EDT

Beachwalk has it right. Add to that, the fact that the CWP entered into the incident, with the clear intent to create confrontation, and possibly martyrs. They refused to aid in due process by the court, for two reasons. They didn't want to remove the element of doubt, that the Klan was defending itself against their aggression, and they wanted to keep a festering wound open in the City of Greensboro as long as they could. The City Councils, over the years, have continued to show their weakness and ignorance, and will probably continue to do so. I have no use for the Klan, and less for the CWP, and the City Council.

Hyatt

June 17, 2009 - 9:06 am EDT

I always thought it was cool that the Dead Kennedys gave a nod to Greensboro in thier song, "Goons of Hazzard".

I am proud of Zack for voicing my generations opinion.

Now shut up and move on.

gso me

June 17, 2009 - 9:54 am EDT

I am of your generation and totally disagree with you and Zack. I believe that Zack should stick to speaking for himself, or even his constituents, but not his entire generation.

Hyatt

June 17, 2009 - 1:00 pm EDT

A MAJORITY of my generation were not even a twinkle in their parent’s eye when this happened.

Ponder this song by Minor Threat.

I'm sorry
For something I didn't do
Lynched somebody
But I don't know who
You blame me for slavery
A hundred years before I was born

Guilty of being white

I'm a convict
Of a racist crime
I've only served
19 years of my time

Guilty of being white

Get Real

June 18, 2009 - 1:32 pm EDT

Ian MacKaye wrote this song in the early 80's about his own personal feelings towards being picked on in a mostly black DC neighborhood. Now he is actually a civil rights activist and would probably agree that the city should apologize for the GPD's involvement. I know it's not the current city leaders' fault, but if you take over a business you inherit it's debt.

The Dead Kennedy's song, Goons of Hazzard, is satirically written about the majority of posters on this board.

gso me

June 18, 2009 - 6:08 pm EDT

Thanks, Get Real, for setting that straight. Personally, I'm not a Dead Kennedy's fan, so the reference was completely lost on me. Felt pretty certain the lyrics were being used a little out of context though. Cheers!

weatherwithyou33

June 17, 2009 - 9:45 am EDT

Shouldn't things like the $20 million bond referendum for the Natural Science Center or the failure to pass the city budget be the important front page news from last nights City Council Meeting?

Sometimes I am embarrassed to tell people I live in Greensboro and this is one of those moments.

jscott98

June 17, 2009 - 10:13 am EDT

How much do you want to bet that the Truth and Reconciliation people will never let this thing go? Is anybody else sick of this? Congratulations to Mary Rakestraw, Mike Barber, Trudy Wade and Zack Matheny who voted no to wasting anymore time and money appeasing these "people" . I guess the T& R groupies will ask for cash in hand the next time they appear on the agenda.

bigwill

June 17, 2009 - 10:32 am EDT

I guess the whites got out numbered by the blacks on this vote.

greywolf

June 17, 2009 - 10:35 am EDT

Perhaps the rational simply outvoted the hateful.

gso me

June 17, 2009 - 10:42 am EDT

Thank you greywolf, for a sane comment.

greywolf

June 17, 2009 - 10:56 am EDT

Looks like if you want sanity in this thread, you have to look for something that you or I penned. Keep at 'em, gso me.

johnnybegood

June 17, 2009 - 11:06 am EDT

This forum today has been like a session in the sack w/ my ex-wife...sincerity laced with aggressive tones...anyone got a cigarette?

Beachwalk

June 17, 2009 - 11:36 am EDT

The forum today "sincerity laced with aggressive tones".
Thanks for making my point. This issue needs to die. It does not help race relations in Greensboro. It only continues to bring out "aggressive tones" on both sides.

Mialamasoul

June 19, 2009 - 4:24 pm EDT

It appears that the "aggressive tones" are from residents who prefer their Pleasantville to remain forever in black and white. The issue has not and will not die because the same forces that caused the attitudes between the groups still exists. It has never been a scab, it is a continuous, festering oozing wound that will never close. Look at where conversation about it is taking place! Anonymously on a newspaper comment spot. Huh?

bigwill

June 17, 2009 - 12:48 pm EDT

greywolf, I haven't seen you say one "rational" comment in this entire thread. If you could step back and quit being simple minded, you could see that the people that voted No, were not being hateful. They were simply realizing that this was nothing more than a waste of time. What possible benefit would anyone get out of a statement about something that happened 30 years ago. I would much rather the council be spending more time on how to strenghthen the economy rather than making a waste of time statement. Quit being ignorant and get past your racial perceptions. I just plainly stated the facts that are obvious. Most blacks when it comes to anything to do with something that benefits them, make decisions based on their skin and not with thier logical brain power. Its a known and proven fact. Wake up and smell the coffey. The only reason why nothing appears to have changed since the times you have claimed compared to now, is because people like you don't want it to change. That means you would lose your leverage and not be able to play the race card.

greywolf

June 17, 2009 - 8:15 pm EDT

willie, willie, willie, there you go again talking about "facts." Sadly, your prejudices and misconceptions cannot be construed to be "facts."

Panacea

June 17, 2009 - 11:16 pm EDT

All people, of all color, make decisions that are in their best interest. That is human nature. What makes us civilized is our ability to rise above self interest and come together as a community.

Both whites and blacks in Greensboro are able to do so. Some whites and some blacks refuse to see beyond race. That is sad, and the progressive among us can only keep trying to convince the racist minority to come around.

Mialamasoul

June 19, 2009 - 4:27 pm EDT

Race is not a "card" like a game to be played. It is an artificial social construct designed to keep inequity in place based on, well... nothing. It is whites who made and continue make decisions based on the fact that blacks are.. well, black.

greywolf

June 20, 2009 - 1:34 pm EDT

Well said, Mialamasoul! Barbara Fields would be proud!

dusenberry

June 17, 2009 - 10:37 am EDT

In ten more years these Nazi's, CWP and KKK members will be saints. Goldie Wells even suggested a memorial to these five people killed. Don't forget these people came from other towns and chose to bring it to Greensboro. We didn't ask them to come.

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