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City may reopen truth, reconciliation issue

Tuesday, June 16, 2009
(Updated 12:03 pm)

GREENSBORO — Three years after the Truth and Reconciliation Commission issued its report on the 1979 shootings at Morningside Homes, the city Human Relations Commission will ask the City Council to issue a statement of regret about the incident.

That’s one action the commission will recommend that  council members take tonight.

The city committee spent the past year studying the Truth and Reconciliation Commission’s report and other documents about the shootings with the goal of figuring out how the city might address some of the concerns.

“We’ve come a long way, but we have a long way to go,” said Maxine Bakeman, who will present the recommendations on behalf of the Human Relations Commission.

The reconciliation commission’s work has been a source of controversy among City Council members in the past. Previous councils voted to oppose the reconciliation process and not consider its findings.

The Rev. Mark Sills, a member of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, said its work was incomplete because public bodies like the City Council never fully addressed its findings.

“It certainly is long overdue. It’s certainly a step in the right direction,” Sills said Monday.

The shootings happened 30 years ago, on Nov. 3, 1979, during a “Death to the Klan” march organized by the Communist Workers Party at the Morningside Homes housing community.

Ku Klux Klan members and neo-Nazis confronted demonstrators. The gunfire that followed left five marchers dead and 10 people wounded.

Two Greensboro police officers and others were found liable for the incident in a civil trial. No one was convicted criminally.

The Greensboro Truth and Reconciliation Commission formed in 2004 to examine the causes and consequences of the shootings and to make recommendations to help the community heal.

The commission’s final 2006 report recommended, among other things, that the city issue an apology for failing to protect the public and failing to appropriately acknowledge the event.

The commission’s work and its recommendations met with resistance from the community, including City Council members, who voted not to support the project because some said it was divisive and negative.

Two years later, the council opposed a move by Councilwoman Goldie Wells to consider the commission’s findings.

At the time, then Mayor Keith Holliday said the council should not apologize for the event, although he said city official could express regret that it happened.

“The thinking is that this happened in 1979. They had nothing to do with it, so they had nothing to apologize for,” Wells said of her fellow council members.

Sills said some people did not trust the process or some of the people involved.

“They never quite understood the complete neutrality and independence of the commission and the work of the committee,” he said.

Mayor Yvonne Johnson said last spring that the current council had asked the Human Relations Commission to review the information and recommend how the city should respond.

The Human Relations Commission recommends that council members acknowledge the importance of the shootings and pledge “to ensure that nothing like the events of Nov. 3, 1979, ever occur again in our community.”

“First, we need to recognize so much pain developed as a result of the 1979 event,” Bakeman said. “We need to acknowledge that and maybe that will help us to move forward.”

The commission also wants the city to help the healing process by convening community forums that ensure there is no barrier to public information; make sure documents about the shootings are readily available at public libraries and on the city’s Web site; and foster trust between police officers and residents.

Some work toward those goals has been completed through things like the city’s annual report on human relations and IMPACT Greensboro, Bakeman said.

“We’re hoping tonight our City Council will step forward and say we accept the report … so we came move forward,” she said.
 

Contact Amanda Lehmert at 373-7075 or amanda.lehmert@news-record.com

Accompanying Photos

File photo (News & Record)

Photo Caption: Each of the people killed in the Nov. 3, 1979, shootings are represented by a white rose and a photograph during a Truth and Reconciliation hearing in 2005.

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COUNCIL MEETS TUESDAY NIGHT

What: Greensboro City Council meeting.

When: 5:30 p.m. Tuesday.

Where: Melvin Municipal Office Building, 300 W. Washington St., Greensboro.

Watch it: Time Warner Channel 13 or www.greensboro-nc.gov/citygovernment/council

How to speak: Sign up before the meeting. Speakers have up to three minutes for items not on the agenda.

On the agenda: The Human Relations Commission will give the council its review of the Truth and Reconciliation Committee’s work. ... The council will discuss proposed changes to the Complaint Review Committee, which hears complaints about police officers. ... City Council will hold a public hearing and decide whether to put a $20 million bond referendum on the November ballot. If approved, money will be spent for changes at the Natural Science Center. ... Council members will consider approving a bond sale for construction of an aquatic center at the coliseum. Last fall, council members promised to not sell bonds until the end of this year.

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tledford

June 16, 2009 - 9:34 pm EDT

Brainwashed, delusional, pathetic. Bye-bye, dufus.

tahoeman1971

June 16, 2009 - 9:37 pm EDT

Ahh, sweet serenity in the land of the name callers. You still have not presented fact to disprove me. If brainwashed, delusional and pathetic means not an irrelevant race baiter then count me in.

tledford

June 16, 2009 - 9:41 pm EDT

You haven't provided me with facts about Venezuela to dispute.

tahoeman1971

June 16, 2009 - 10:04 pm EDT

That is because after much debate I just determined your a moron.

tledford

June 17, 2009 - 6:20 am EDT

"That is because after much debate [...]"

There was no debate.

"[...] I just determined your [sic] a moron."

It's you're, not your, pot.

tahoeman1971

June 17, 2009 - 8:33 am EDT

Of course the validity of everything I said is destroyed because I didn't type the correct word. Every response of yours had been about nothing. Why don't you talk about fatherless black children and why so many black people rob stores and banks in the Triad EVERYDAY! Hell I admit that white people do the same thing, but white people aren't asking for an "apology." By the way have you every had a misspelling in a a post you dolt? Just stay off topic, you have been with every one of your posts.

Panacea

June 16, 2009 - 9:02 pm EDT

Look again. The purpose of the Constitution and the law is to establish a community framework for a strong central government between the states, to have the rule of law to protect the community. The Bill of Rights are the first 10 amendments to the Constitution. There were many among the Founding Fathers (ironically, the Federalists) who didn't think a Bill of Rights was necessary.

tahoeman1971

June 17, 2009 - 8:35 am EDT

You need to work on your reading comprehension Pan. Or maybe your idea of the Constitution is like your Presidents. You are both wrong.

jsipe29

June 16, 2009 - 1:22 pm EDT

I can't wait to see if the Council has enough backbone to do the right thing and tell these idiots that we need to move on. This happened 30 years ago. I'm sure we can come up with hundreds of issues where someone was wrong and someone paid with thier life. Blaming the Police Department is easy and so typical of some peoples way of thinking. I guess they will never take blame for thier own actions. "They" means anyone that goes out looking for trouble, finds it, and then blames someone else when things go south. "They" has nothing to do with race!

Get Real

June 16, 2009 - 3:31 pm EDT

Since when did speaking out about racism become "looking for trouble"?

The cops knew it was going to happen then allowed it to happen. Cops and Klan go hand in hand.

jsipe29

June 16, 2009 - 9:53 pm EDT

They were there knowing something could go wrong. They dared them to come. I'm certanly not saying it was right, I'm just saying that they knew this could happen. When you push people, they tend to push back, especially when thier as evel as the KKK were. I would like to see the word "race" never be needed again, but as long as special interest groups exist (and continue to bring things up that happened 30 years ago), things will never be like they should be. You need to get your head out of the sand. By the way, next time you need help who are you going to call, the Police or the Klan?

gboro84

June 16, 2009 - 1:27 pm EDT

When this issue was brought up before, the mayor of this city said we do acknowledge the tragedy but WE have nothing to apologize for. Why do these folks keep bringing it back up? Especially Goldie Wells. At the last council meeting Ms. Wells vehemently opposed considering looking at the operating costs of hauling trash out of town. She said that bringing this up brings out emotions in people and we should not EVER discuss it. Watch the video of the last meeting on the councils website at around 1:30-2:00 hours into the meeting. Over trash, but she loves stirring up racial controversy, especially during an election year. Eventually, once the generation of old black folks that are stuck in the past dies off, we can move forward as a loving and diverse community.

Dogwood

June 16, 2009 - 2:28 pm EDT

Councilmember Goldie Wells is from eastern NC. She is not running for re-election. She voted to give the Beloved Community Center $20,000 taxpayers money for the work Rev Johnson does. She is a very good woman. She is old and this her last chance to smear the city. I remember something about the sayng religion is the opiate of the people, Somehow a communist becomes a preacher overnight in Reverend Nelson..power to the people.

gboro84

June 16, 2009 - 3:02 pm EDT

What I mean with the election year comment is that there will more than likely be some folks at the council meeting tonight who will speak on this and happen to be running for council seats in November. Watch out for them. To the commenter who stated the police should have warned Nelson Johnson and crew of the impending violence: This is a classic example of the UN-truth that this commission is spreading. In the weeks leading up to this shooting, there were MANY confrontations invovled between these same people here in Greensboro. ALL of these confrontations involved the brandishing of firearms and death threats. Days before the march, Nelson Johnson appeared on television and stated, and this is almost a direct quote, that "WE KNOW the klan will come to incite violence...They are cowards and they wont come." So you decide for yourself now that you have a little more background about the situation. Also, remember(or ignore the fact) that Nelson Johnson and crew stormed a film screening hosted by klansmen in the weeks leading up to the march. I am not making excuses for the klan murdering people, what I am saying is that it was expected for them to come, it was expected for them to bring guns, just like both sides had been bringing guns to confrontations for weeks. Sad thing is, a lot of the mess-stirrers who were involved then and are now, were not born, raised, and do not reside in this great city.

Panacea

June 16, 2009 - 6:03 pm EDT

From the Commission's report: "The Commission finds that the WVO leadership was very naïve about the level of
danger posed by their rhetoric and the Klanʼs propensity for violence, and they even dismissed concerns raised by their own members." But, assuming the worst and believing that Johnson inflamed the Klan with his television comments (which I'm taking at face value, lacking a resource), the Commission also found:

"Despite the obvious and important roles of the above participants, the majority of
commissioners fi nd the single most important element that contributed to the violent
outcome of the confrontation was the absence of police.1 Hostility between the WVO
and white supremacist groups ran high and was infl amed by violent language on both
sides. Yet vocal expression of political disagreement is the lifeblood of a healthy democracy.
The two parties had met before in China Grove, N.C., in July 1979, exchanged
insults and jeers, brandished weapons, and yet no violence resulted. We believe
that this outcome in China Grove was due to the presence of three uniformed
police officers, who did nothing other than be visibly present between the groups."

I think these findings are pretty clear. The Commission makes it clear there is plenty of blame to go around. They acknowledge the previous confrontations you cite. However, these confrontations raise the culpability of the Greensboro PD: in spite of the fact no shots had been fired in previous incidents, the police should have been prudent and posted a visible presence to prevent future violence in the face of a situation that everyone knew was volatile.

I don't understand why the City Council is having such a hard problem with this report. It doesn't minimize the responsibility of any of the parties involved.

Your comment about "a lot of mess-stirrers who were involved then and are now were not born, raised, and do not reside in this great city," is a telling comment. It says to me, "Y'all ain't from Greensboro, tain't none ya business, so you just butt out." Greensboro does indeed have an image to concern itself with as it strives to attract new industries to the Triad. Presenting an image of racism and an unwillingness to address wrongs does not speak well of the city. People considering re-locating to this area have every right to consider events such as this when deciding if Greensboro is for them. Those of us who live here have a right to speak out against the injustices of the past, even if we weren't privileged to be born and raised here.

tledford

June 16, 2009 - 8:44 pm EDT

"In the weeks leading up to this shooting, there were MANY confrontations invovled between these same people here in Greensboro. ALL of these confrontations involved the brandishing of firearms and death threats."

Since when is China Grove Greensboro?

If you don't know what you're talking about, STFU.

Panacea

June 16, 2009 - 9:18 pm EDT

I do know what I'm talking about. It doesn't matter if China Grove is in Greensboro or not. The point was an altercation took place there that would have warned a prudent police department that they needed to be on alert for trouble. They failed to do so.

Try and apply a little common sense, please, instead of running on emotion.

tledford

June 16, 2009 - 9:45 pm EDT

My comment was to the parent post to your comment, Panacea, and by God, I'll be emotional if I want to. I'm sick and tired of all the crap the right-wingers have subjected this country to since 1981. I am just TIRED of hearing the same old crap denying and excusing racism.

To paraphrase (and mangle) a comment made by one of the last right-wingers who DID love instead of HATE America, "Emotion [Ed.: originally "Extremism"] in the defense of Liberty is no vice!"

Kesh

June 17, 2009 - 10:04 am EDT

It would be wonderful if we could all just focus on the issues of today..... Yesterday is dead and gone. Many of us will never forget what happen that day. Just like other times in history when terrible things have happened. We should never forget but we need to move on. Lets rally to do something for today, tomorrow and our future. Why keep picking at an old scab; soon it will get infected!

obiwon

June 17, 2009 - 4:55 pm EDT

why not? Let's talk about millions of dollars wasted or not accounted for in the Civil Rights Museum in Greensboro while we're at it.

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