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City may reopen truth, reconciliation issue

Tuesday, June 16, 2009
(Updated 12:03 pm)

GREENSBORO — Three years after the Truth and Reconciliation Commission issued its report on the 1979 shootings at Morningside Homes, the city Human Relations Commission will ask the City Council to issue a statement of regret about the incident.

That’s one action the commission will recommend that  council members take tonight.

The city committee spent the past year studying the Truth and Reconciliation Commission’s report and other documents about the shootings with the goal of figuring out how the city might address some of the concerns.

“We’ve come a long way, but we have a long way to go,” said Maxine Bakeman, who will present the recommendations on behalf of the Human Relations Commission.

The reconciliation commission’s work has been a source of controversy among City Council members in the past. Previous councils voted to oppose the reconciliation process and not consider its findings.

The Rev. Mark Sills, a member of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, said its work was incomplete because public bodies like the City Council never fully addressed its findings.

“It certainly is long overdue. It’s certainly a step in the right direction,” Sills said Monday.

The shootings happened 30 years ago, on Nov. 3, 1979, during a “Death to the Klan” march organized by the Communist Workers Party at the Morningside Homes housing community.

Ku Klux Klan members and neo-Nazis confronted demonstrators. The gunfire that followed left five marchers dead and 10 people wounded.

Two Greensboro police officers and others were found liable for the incident in a civil trial. No one was convicted criminally.

The Greensboro Truth and Reconciliation Commission formed in 2004 to examine the causes and consequences of the shootings and to make recommendations to help the community heal.

The commission’s final 2006 report recommended, among other things, that the city issue an apology for failing to protect the public and failing to appropriately acknowledge the event.

The commission’s work and its recommendations met with resistance from the community, including City Council members, who voted not to support the project because some said it was divisive and negative.

Two years later, the council opposed a move by Councilwoman Goldie Wells to consider the commission’s findings.

At the time, then Mayor Keith Holliday said the council should not apologize for the event, although he said city official could express regret that it happened.

“The thinking is that this happened in 1979. They had nothing to do with it, so they had nothing to apologize for,” Wells said of her fellow council members.

Sills said some people did not trust the process or some of the people involved.

“They never quite understood the complete neutrality and independence of the commission and the work of the committee,” he said.

Mayor Yvonne Johnson said last spring that the current council had asked the Human Relations Commission to review the information and recommend how the city should respond.

The Human Relations Commission recommends that council members acknowledge the importance of the shootings and pledge “to ensure that nothing like the events of Nov. 3, 1979, ever occur again in our community.”

“First, we need to recognize so much pain developed as a result of the 1979 event,” Bakeman said. “We need to acknowledge that and maybe that will help us to move forward.”

The commission also wants the city to help the healing process by convening community forums that ensure there is no barrier to public information; make sure documents about the shootings are readily available at public libraries and on the city’s Web site; and foster trust between police officers and residents.

Some work toward those goals has been completed through things like the city’s annual report on human relations and IMPACT Greensboro, Bakeman said.

“We’re hoping tonight our City Council will step forward and say we accept the report … so we came move forward,” she said.
 

Contact Amanda Lehmert at 373-7075 or amanda.lehmert@news-record.com

Accompanying Photos

File photo (News & Record)

Photo Caption: Each of the people killed in the Nov. 3, 1979, shootings are represented by a white rose and a photograph during a Truth and Reconciliation hearing in 2005.

Additional Photos

COUNCIL MEETS TUESDAY NIGHT

What: Greensboro City Council meeting.

When: 5:30 p.m. Tuesday.

Where: Melvin Municipal Office Building, 300 W. Washington St., Greensboro.

Watch it: Time Warner Channel 13 or www.greensboro-nc.gov/citygovernment/council

How to speak: Sign up before the meeting. Speakers have up to three minutes for items not on the agenda.

On the agenda: The Human Relations Commission will give the council its review of the Truth and Reconciliation Committee’s work. ... The council will discuss proposed changes to the Complaint Review Committee, which hears complaints about police officers. ... City Council will hold a public hearing and decide whether to put a $20 million bond referendum on the November ballot. If approved, money will be spent for changes at the Natural Science Center. ... Council members will consider approving a bond sale for construction of an aquatic center at the coliseum. Last fall, council members promised to not sell bonds until the end of this year.

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Panacea

June 16, 2009 - 5:37 pm EDT

"Klan knew the homes of the disabled, elderly and young mothers with children would be terrorized by the planning of the CWP. "

This is a curious comment. So your contention is the CWP, instead of simply holding a demonstration in a black neighborhood protesting the KKK, planned to terrorize the very people they were demonstrating in support of? And you further contend that the Klan was there to protect the black citizens of Morningside from the CWP?

Quite incredulous that you would say or imply such a thing, but that is the message I get from your statement.

Katbyrd

June 17, 2009 - 8:13 am EDT

And I'm sure the GPD would have been there....had they been give CORRECT information. People needed to be warned about a possible confrontation?? At a "DEATH TO THE KLAN" march with CWP involved??? Get real.

bigdog1

June 16, 2009 - 11:33 am EDT

It takes a racist to not to want to know the truth.

rw11777

June 16, 2009 - 11:41 am EDT

IN THE WORDS OF RODNEY "KING" CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG

tahoeman1971

June 16, 2009 - 11:38 am EDT

Typical black behavior. Keep bringing up the past and blame white people for their problems, rather than addressing the real problems that plague them like 3 out of 4 of their children being born out of wedlock. Even with a half black President they still can't catch a break. If Greensboro is so bad, haul ass billy grass and go stir up trouble in another community.

rldavvis2026

June 16, 2009 - 12:52 pm EDT

Did you really read what you wrote before you posted this insane gibbering?

tahoeman1971

June 16, 2009 - 1:54 pm EDT

I certainly did and my post was certainly not unintelligible. I read other things also, like this

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/09...

Warning don't read this if FACTS bother you. It is surprising though that this was printed in the Boston Globe.

Panacea

June 16, 2009 - 2:38 pm EDT

I read the article. It was fair and well balanced. Your post was not.

tahoeman1971

June 16, 2009 - 6:08 pm EDT

Well being nice about it and not talking about it has gotten black people nowhere. I just have the guts to say it is all Pan. I stand behind every word. You prove I'm wrong and I'll be glad to listen.

Panacea

June 16, 2009 - 9:15 pm EDT

You're comparing apples to oranges. The problems facing African Americans has NOTHING to do with the responsibility the City of Greensboro has to govern well, and to insist on a responsible police department. The City is liable for the actions of the police, and the police did not warn the CWP, gave the Klan important information that allowed them to plan their disruption of a legal demonstration, did not provide protection to the demonstrators, and allowed the guilty to escape the scene of the crime, among other failures of duty.

tledford

June 16, 2009 - 8:39 pm EDT

The poster didn't claim your post was unintelligible, simply (and rightly) that it was insane.

tahoeman1971

June 16, 2009 - 8:44 pm EDT

Hey genius, look up the definition of gibbering.

tledford

June 16, 2009 - 8:51 pm EDT

You *do* understand what an adjective is, right? And the verbal concept of a modifier? I wasn't asking you for (nor did I need) a definition of "gibbering."

tahoeman1971

June 16, 2009 - 8:57 pm EDT

Well I though you did need it since gibbering means "unintelligible" and you said the poster did not say was "unintelligible" when they did, etc etc. Damn man you will argue with a stop sign huh?

tledford

June 16, 2009 - 9:03 pm EDT

Gibbering is also what monkey chatter is, so if you're black, and you accept (as you clearly have) the definition of your post as unintelligible, does that mean you think you're no better than a monkey?

No, I don't argue with stop signs, but arguing with a right-winger is the equivalent of arguing with a stump, so I *do* argue with stumps, yes. :-)

Mialamasoul

June 16, 2009 - 3:02 pm EDT

People keep moving here with high hopes, for your information because Greensboro bills itself and has a reputation for being progressive and forward thinking. Your attitude towards newcomers assures that it will stay the backwater you would like for it to be, still mourning over lost manufacturing jobs, and holding on to views from 50 years ago instead of growing into the city it could become. Shame that attitudes like the ones you hold keep people separated, fearful, and unable to unite as a community.

tahoeman1971

June 16, 2009 - 7:38 pm EDT

I tell you what. You get 50% of the black children in Greensboro united with their birth fathers and I''ll push to unite the community. What I say is true. How I say it is irrelevant. Every black person that I know well would say the exact same thing that I am saying. They are embarrased by the behavior of other blacks looking for a handout and teaching their kids how to live on welfare. There are more and more white trash doing the same thing and I disdain them also. Take care of your home first, then try to fix the community. The fact that you and Pan are reacting with such disgust proves I am right otherwise you would debate the facts of my statement. Neither one of you have. You just talk about how insensitive I am. I prefer facts over emotion.

oh good grief

June 16, 2009 - 12:13 pm EDT

A Englishman who worked for an international company was stationed in South America where there was great civil unrest and very dangerous conditions in the fall of 1979. He and others had left their homes/apartment to hole up in a large hotel in a large city for weeks because of serious insurrection activity. He finally got a re-assignment from his company. Before he could fly out he had spent two days and nights in a stairwell without windows to avoid being shot or injured/killed by grenades. Finally he was able to escape and fly out to a new city in North America. He arrived at the Greensboro airport on a Sunday and the first local newpaper he saw carried a banner headline about the "Nazi Klan shootout." He said that his first thought on seeing that was "why did I trade South America for Greensboro?"

Both sides of that confrontation are reprehensible in my opinion.

One question: Which side of that confrontation between fools has "milked it" (and is still milking it) after almost thirty years?

rldavvis2026

June 16, 2009 - 1:00 pm EDT

Only when the negative is looked at for what it really is can the truth be seen. The word fear can stand for False Events Appearing Real. The truth about the day and why it was even allowed to occur needs to be revealed and never repeated. The freedom of speech does not give everyone the right to do and say anything that is harmful to another person. The rights and protection of the community must always come first. Just because something is said even with a gun does not make it true or right. This community has been hurting over this ugly event for 30years. I moved here just before this happened and was appalled that the demonstration was allowed to happen without police present in strong force. This was a recipe to violence from the start. Those who live by hate will die by hate. Ignoring that fact is a true blindness into the core human nature. To the Morningside Homes victims and family I give my heart felt sorrow for your loss. To the enactors of violent acts and the families of those who died by hate I give you my heart felt sorrow for your views and inhumanness. This was a tragedy on any level should not have ever been allow to occur on either side. Greensboro officials you were responsible for this event being allowed and not protecting the community as a whole. This has caused so many hurts and loss of community spirit. No you were the ones in charge at that time but is your responsibility now to handle the aftermath that was left to you. Here how we as a city are seen on the internet. "Greensboro massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" now that will really draw some good prospects into the community. I urge those in charge of this to come to a resonable decision. Everyone invoved in this horrible events are at fault and not just one side but everyone that was there or planned the day!

Dogwood

June 16, 2009 - 1:52 pm EDT

Thank you for commenting on the Greensboro Wikipedia site. I wish the CWP and the KKK were not the major player in our city history. One day in 1979 took out all the goodness of the people. My real problem is the CWP were not from Greensboro and the Klan were not from Greensboro and the world thinks all the citizens are evil.

Mialamasoul

June 16, 2009 - 3:08 pm EDT

Greensboro citizens are not evil, but many are mean spirited, and cling stubbornly to a single view of how residents of the city should look and behave. No, noise, no outdoor events, no large gatherings of any group of color, no improptu music, no improptu outside, no parking on the grass, no parking in the parks, no parking in the parking lots, no being out on the street after 9pm, and certainly not after midnight. NO, NO, NO. Greensboro would, could be a city more relaxed if instead of NO, there were more, "well, that's not what we're used to, but what's the harm in trying it another way?"

tahoeman1971

June 16, 2009 - 7:58 pm EDT

"..The rights and protection of the community must always come first." Well that just proves how ignorant you are. The entire Constitution lays out INDIVIDUAL rights, not community rights. Move to Venezuela. Wanting an apology for events 30 years ago just proves how useless you are and how you need to bring up the past rather than with your own effort creating a reason to be relevant. Connection to past events perpetrated against people of the same color as you does not make you relevant or important. Unless you are Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton and you have morons that listen to everything you say. By the way, still waiting on that apology from Jackson and Sharpton over the Tawana Brawley incident. I guess hell is not frozen yet.

tledford

June 16, 2009 - 8:42 pm EDT

"Move to Venezuela."

And the cube root of 27 is 3.

More non-sequiturs -- what the right-wing lunatics do best.

tahoeman1971

June 16, 2009 - 8:45 pm EDT

Debate my facts Led. Bring it!

tledford

June 16, 2009 - 8:47 pm EDT

I'm not questioning any of your facts, just your irrelevancy -- what has Venezuela got to do with anything?

tahoeman1971

June 16, 2009 - 8:54 pm EDT

I'm not trying to be relevant. If you don't understand my comment about Venezuela then you are obviously not watching the news. By the way, calling me irrelevant does not change the fact that black people use charges of racism to feel better about themselves. I know your not courageous enough to admit it so no problem.

tledford

June 16, 2009 - 9:07 pm EDT

"[...] does not change the fact that black people use charges of racism to feel better about themselves."

Bullshit. Where are your facts to support this, Jack? Simple racist bullshit. And courage or cowardice has nothing to do with accepting facts, just a willingness to think rather than obey the Bill O'Liellys and Sean Vanitys and other haters of America.

tahoeman1971

June 16, 2009 - 9:19 pm EDT

Man I am good!

tledford

June 16, 2009 - 9:16 pm EDT

"I'm not trying to be relevant."

My apologies, I neglected to congratulate you on your SPECTACULAR success.

tahoeman1971

June 16, 2009 - 9:25 pm EDT

I am very relevant to my family. I understand that is a difficult concept for 70% of black men though. Stop cursing at me. My facts are the very situation this article discusses. Oh please apologize Mr. White Man for all your injustices. It's a cop out. Hey little black boy...the reason you live on welfare is because white people hate you, not because your lazy like daddy.

I'm not backing down people. Get your families squared away first then tell me how to run Greensboro and the USA. Until then keep getting disrespected by your children if you know where they are.

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