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City may reopen truth, reconciliation issue

Tuesday, June 16, 2009
(Updated 12:03 pm)

GREENSBORO — Three years after the Truth and Reconciliation Commission issued its report on the 1979 shootings at Morningside Homes, the city Human Relations Commission will ask the City Council to issue a statement of regret about the incident.

That’s one action the commission will recommend that  council members take tonight.

The city committee spent the past year studying the Truth and Reconciliation Commission’s report and other documents about the shootings with the goal of figuring out how the city might address some of the concerns.

“We’ve come a long way, but we have a long way to go,” said Maxine Bakeman, who will present the recommendations on behalf of the Human Relations Commission.

The reconciliation commission’s work has been a source of controversy among City Council members in the past. Previous councils voted to oppose the reconciliation process and not consider its findings.

The Rev. Mark Sills, a member of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, said its work was incomplete because public bodies like the City Council never fully addressed its findings.

“It certainly is long overdue. It’s certainly a step in the right direction,” Sills said Monday.

The shootings happened 30 years ago, on Nov. 3, 1979, during a “Death to the Klan” march organized by the Communist Workers Party at the Morningside Homes housing community.

Ku Klux Klan members and neo-Nazis confronted demonstrators. The gunfire that followed left five marchers dead and 10 people wounded.

Two Greensboro police officers and others were found liable for the incident in a civil trial. No one was convicted criminally.

The Greensboro Truth and Reconciliation Commission formed in 2004 to examine the causes and consequences of the shootings and to make recommendations to help the community heal.

The commission’s final 2006 report recommended, among other things, that the city issue an apology for failing to protect the public and failing to appropriately acknowledge the event.

The commission’s work and its recommendations met with resistance from the community, including City Council members, who voted not to support the project because some said it was divisive and negative.

Two years later, the council opposed a move by Councilwoman Goldie Wells to consider the commission’s findings.

At the time, then Mayor Keith Holliday said the council should not apologize for the event, although he said city official could express regret that it happened.

“The thinking is that this happened in 1979. They had nothing to do with it, so they had nothing to apologize for,” Wells said of her fellow council members.

Sills said some people did not trust the process or some of the people involved.

“They never quite understood the complete neutrality and independence of the commission and the work of the committee,” he said.

Mayor Yvonne Johnson said last spring that the current council had asked the Human Relations Commission to review the information and recommend how the city should respond.

The Human Relations Commission recommends that council members acknowledge the importance of the shootings and pledge “to ensure that nothing like the events of Nov. 3, 1979, ever occur again in our community.”

“First, we need to recognize so much pain developed as a result of the 1979 event,” Bakeman said. “We need to acknowledge that and maybe that will help us to move forward.”

The commission also wants the city to help the healing process by convening community forums that ensure there is no barrier to public information; make sure documents about the shootings are readily available at public libraries and on the city’s Web site; and foster trust between police officers and residents.

Some work toward those goals has been completed through things like the city’s annual report on human relations and IMPACT Greensboro, Bakeman said.

“We’re hoping tonight our City Council will step forward and say we accept the report … so we came move forward,” she said.
 

Contact Amanda Lehmert at 373-7075 or amanda.lehmert@news-record.com

Accompanying Photos

File photo (News & Record)

Photo Caption: Each of the people killed in the Nov. 3, 1979, shootings are represented by a white rose and a photograph during a Truth and Reconciliation hearing in 2005.

Additional Photos

COUNCIL MEETS TUESDAY NIGHT

What: Greensboro City Council meeting.

When: 5:30 p.m. Tuesday.

Where: Melvin Municipal Office Building, 300 W. Washington St., Greensboro.

Watch it: Time Warner Channel 13 or www.greensboro-nc.gov/citygovernment/council

How to speak: Sign up before the meeting. Speakers have up to three minutes for items not on the agenda.

On the agenda: The Human Relations Commission will give the council its review of the Truth and Reconciliation Committee’s work. ... The council will discuss proposed changes to the Complaint Review Committee, which hears complaints about police officers. ... City Council will hold a public hearing and decide whether to put a $20 million bond referendum on the November ballot. If approved, money will be spent for changes at the Natural Science Center. ... Council members will consider approving a bond sale for construction of an aquatic center at the coliseum. Last fall, council members promised to not sell bonds until the end of this year.

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NobodyReally

June 16, 2009 - 7:44 am EDT

Bakeman said. “We need to acknowledge that and maybe that will help us to move forward.” MAYBE. Doubt it.

notoriousBLOG

June 16, 2009 - 7:50 am EDT

This city will never amount to anything again! There is a very visible group of black racists who will never let this city amount to anything! These people have their own agenda and that includes blackmailing the people of Greensboro at every possible opportunity. They are able to do this because the white leaders for decades have allowed them to do this. There is also a niche group of socialist/communists who continuously stir the pot, and the fact that there are so many young black students in town who are very easily manipulated. What happened that day could have happened anywhere, but because all we can do is sit around and wring our hands and feel remorseful we will never get beyond it.

Mialamasoul

June 16, 2009 - 2:44 pm EDT

The fact that you said "white leaders allowed them" is a tacit admission that whites are the only ones who have the power TO allow. Remorse is not what is called for. Open conversation in this hateful town is.

tledford

June 16, 2009 - 9:47 pm EDT

This city WILL amount to something in the future, despite people who think as you do.

(Once again the hierarchical posting malfunctioned -- "you" refers to the author of the parent post.)

torrid

June 16, 2009 - 7:55 am EDT

So the racial agitators which seem to run this town now have the city council looking at this again. And the News & Record is more than willing to help them stir things up. I smell a shakedown coming.

tledford

June 16, 2009 - 8:30 pm EDT

Absolutely clueless imbecile. Wipe the drool, brother.

ghost from white oak

June 16, 2009 - 8:36 am EDT

You would think with all the concern about animal rights, they wouldn't keep beating this dead horse.

autismmom

June 16, 2009 - 9:31 am EDT

ROFL!! I so agree! How many times will this be investigated? Reopening the investigation will not change the findings. Is this group going to keep re-investigating until they get the result shtey want? MOVE ON ALREADY!!

Mialamasoul

June 16, 2009 - 2:45 pm EDT

What exactly would you like for them to MOVE ON to?

tledford

June 16, 2009 - 9:49 pm EDT

The GTRC has never "change[d] the findings." The City [sic] Council has never acknowledged the findings.

Dancer

June 16, 2009 - 9:21 am EDT

This was a fight between the KKK/Nazis and the Communist Workers Party. Nothing more

Katbyrd

June 17, 2009 - 8:03 am EDT

Bravo. Finally someone who lived here as I did making a factual comment.

weatherwithyou33

June 16, 2009 - 9:17 am EDT

I'm so happy that our local government has solved all the other pressing problems in our city today and can now dedicate so much time to this issue.

oh good grief

June 16, 2009 - 10:19 am EDT

I doubt if Nelson Johnson gives up any time soon, considering that there's money to be made in picking at old wounds until they fester and burst open yet again. Example: Nelson and Joyce Johnson received $100,000 from The Atlantic Philanthropies in December 2008 for "launching the Truth and Reconciliation Commission TO HEAL OLD WOUNDS (emphasis added)." (from the website of The Atlantic Philanthropies)

Come here, Nelson, and tell us the "success" you have had thus far "heal(ing) old wounds."

Kesh

June 16, 2009 - 10:23 am EDT

can you say.......... beating a dead horse...

crosstrojan

June 16, 2009 - 10:42 am EDT

Yes, it has been 30 years ago, but judging from these comments, not much has changed, people were killed, and injured, and like one person posted, there is no statue of limitations for murder, and it was cold blooded murder committed by the most infamous terrorist group in the world, the neo-nazis, and the kkk, and to the ignorant person who posted the comment "say they're sorry, and cut them a check, I'm sorry people like you exist, and you need to crawl back into that hole you came out from

ghost from white oak

June 16, 2009 - 12:20 pm EDT

When listing your " infamous terroist groups", you must have accidentally omitted " the communist workers party".
You last sentence says to me you are a very fine, civil person who is so very tolerant of others who may not agree with your view.

buzzman

June 16, 2009 - 10:49 am EDT

gso me - You say you are not racist nor black, so you must be a carpetbagger. The problem most folks found (and still find) with the Truth & Reconciliation "process" is that it's real reason is just to continue to stir up racial tensions. As has already been said, there is a group of blacks who hate other races and wish to stir up as much controversy as they possibly can. Look at all the other stuff that is happening in Greensboro that supports my contention.
I grew up in the South mostly before the Civil Rights Act and never had any ill feelings towards blacks or any other race. My work and travels took me all over this country and to some others where I was able to interact with most ethnic groups. When I came to Greensboro, I still had no ill feelings towards anyone. That has changed and I will admit that I am now a racist towards most blacks, but not any other race. How did this happen? I have been and continue to be treated with disrespect by the majority of blacks that I encounter. Mind you, I do run across a few that are sincerely friendly and courteous, but they are exceptions.
There are few places that one can go in Greensboro without encountering rude black folks. When I walk into a fast food (staffed mostly by blacks) they go into slow motion, but if a bro or sis walks up to the counter, they're eager and ready to take the order. When I go to any restaurant to dine, if there are blacks present, you know it without even seeing them. For some reason, they have to talk very loud and do a lot of loud laughing.
On Monday, I sat at my table and watched a group of middle aged black men, which also included a uniformed GPD officer, make comments about the "booty" of the young lady who was serving them. One of them talked "trash" to her every time she came to their table, which made her quite uncomfortable. Another young lady, who was trying to complete her paperwork to work at the restaurant, made the mistake of sitting at the table next to theirs. One of them kept talking to her and, not to be rude, she responded. This resulted in it taking an awful long time for her to complete the paperwork. The manager kept coming to see if she had finished and obviously observed what was happening, but since he was also black, he didn't say a word to those fellows. I could write volumes on this sort of thing; you get the idea.
Sorry to go on about this, but now you can see why I'm racist towards most blacks.

rw11777

June 16, 2009 - 11:39 am EDT

I can agree more. I am not orignally from the Greensboro area however once here I see this happening. Also I have a question why did the organizers in this rally orignally plan to have this near friendly shopping center then move it to the "projects", and then dare a Klansmen to come. They knew exactly how this would fare. Do we go up to a bears den and throw rocks at it? I dont think so. So someone needs to get their heads out of their tails and see whats really wrong in this area and the country. Such as the 18y/o white kid who killed 18 cats and mutilated them. Maybe we can focus on animal cruelty a little. Also if you still have time on your hands work on a solution for our economy. All and if you still have excessive time to think about stirring up trouble then just Pray.

Mialamasoul

June 16, 2009 - 2:55 pm EDT

They, them, those people. I could find just as many black people who would say the same thing about you. That there are white people who have been rude to them in places of business. I have experienced equal opportunity horrible customer service from people of both races here in Greensboro. It is like people here don't want you in their business and don't care about getting your money. I have gone to the Waffle House right up the road in Burlington, with an all white staff and breathed a sigh of releif at someone greeting me upon entering (don't get that in Greensboro too much). Have had out of town visitors comment on the rudeness of people in the service industry here. Greensboro is an infected angry town, and YOU are contributing to it with the attitudes you expressed here. You are racist because you take situations that are distasteful to you and apply them to an entire race of people.

tledford

June 16, 2009 - 9:32 pm EDT

"[...] why did the organizers in this rally orignally plan to have this near friendly shopping center then move it [...]"

Get your facts straight, Jack. Friendly Shopping Center? Nope.

gso me

June 16, 2009 - 5:59 pm EDT

Wow...I'm sure you weren't racist before coming to Greensboro. Let me guess, you even "had black friends" right?! Admittedly, I had to look up "carpetbagger" in the urban dictionary, and no, I'm not one. I'm just a good ol' southern girl from North Carolina; daughter to a father who is a racist pig, but mother who had enough sense to know better, even if her family was a bit racist too.

When I moved to Greensboro, I was to move to the city noted for the rich civil rights history. Sadly, I now know that there is far more to the story than meets the eye.

But hey, nothing I or anyone else says is going to keep you from making excused for hating.

gso me

June 16, 2009 - 6:03 pm EDT

not sure why my comment posted as a reply to Mialamasoul...was meant to be in response to buzzman above. I agree with Mialamasoul. Thanks for making sense.

tledford

June 16, 2009 - 8:37 pm EDT

There are PLENTY of white people, longtime white citizens of Greensboro, who agree with you 100%. I know hundreds of them personally.

tledford

June 16, 2009 - 8:34 pm EDT

"I have been and continue to be treated with disrespect by the majority of blacks that I encounter. Mind you, I do run across a few that are sincerely friendly and courteous, but they are exceptions."

Then I would guess that you're doing something(s) incredibly stupid, Jack. I am white and have lived in North Carolina all my life and Greensboro for 39 of 53 years, and I have never ONCE encountered ANY kind of "disrespect" from ANY black citizen of Greensboro.

What the hell are you doing? Maybe you should consider taking the swastika or CSA battle flag off your truck.

Katbyrd

June 17, 2009 - 8:11 am EDT

If you've never encountered disrespect from black in Greensboro, then you obviously have never shopped at Food Lion on Randleman Road. Unfortunately, it's the closest grocery store to my home, but now I drive 5 miles out ot the way to go to a different store after the treatment I've received there. Bury you head in the sand and believe what you will. Reverse racism is alive and thriving in Greensboro.

Laura

June 16, 2009 - 11:30 am EDT

Unlike the protestors or the residents of Morningside, the police found out that the Klan were coming that day. The police knew where protestors and Klan were that day. But the police failed to tell the protestors or the residents of Morningside of the potential for confrontation. The police failed to stop, question, or delay the Klan motorcade to prevent a confrontation, and the police failed to have a presence at Morningside to protect the residents, most of whom were also clueless about what was happening on their doorstep or why. In other cities, you always see a police presence at protests -- especially Klan protests. Thanks goodness no children were hurt.

Get Real

June 16, 2009 - 1:07 pm EDT

Exactly. I wish the police would protect the rest of society like they protect the klan.

Dogwood

June 16, 2009 - 1:09 pm EDT

Laura Are you real sure? The March was to be protected starting at a city community center. Only the CWP and the 50 mile away Klan knew the homes of the disabled, elderly and young mothers with children would be terrorized by the planning of the CWP.

My greatest regret is the life lost of the beautiful innocent Bennet College student that died beating on the door of a grandmothers home that had coved her body over the three children in the home and could not answer the door.

Sometimes I think about what she would have been had she not met the CWP. She is not buried at Maplewood. Her family were devastated by the actions of the CWP.

Remember the CWP carried concealed weapons to a Death march they organized.

Mialamasoul

June 16, 2009 - 2:56 pm EDT

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