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School transfers face overhaul

Friday, June 5, 2009
(Updated 7:54 am)

GREENSBORO — Less than two years after saying there was no problem, Guilford County Schools is considering sweeping reforms to its athletics program, including limiting the eligibility of high school athletes who switch schools.

The school board’s four-member governance committee gave preliminary approval Thursday to the plan, which prohibits students who switch high schools from playing sports for a year.

If approved by the full board this summer, the changes would give Guilford County Schools one of the strictest policies in the state for dealing with the growing problem of recruiting and families who abuse the transfer policy.

School board member Darlene Garrett, who has pushed for tougher transfer rules since joining the board seven years ago, called Thursday’s proposal long overdue.

“You know people will try to take advantage of the system,” she said. “They’re always going to do that, but this policy will make it much more difficult. For years, parents and coaches have worked the system. Well, now we’re changing the system.”

In addition to trying to clamp down on transfers, the proposal calls for head coaches — both high school and middle school — to be employed by Guilford County Schools as faculty or staff members.

Schools could still hire non-faculty head coaches, but those hires would first have to be approved by an independent five-person committee set up by the school system.

The crackdown doesn’t end there. In an effort to lessen the likelihood of recruiting, coaches would be prohibited from taking offseason jobs coaching students the same age as those they work with during the school year.

The school system’s transfer policy was first questioned in 2007 when coaches and athletics directors told the News & Record that the practice of athletes shopping around for schools was prevalent, and becoming even more common.

At the time, school board Chairman Alan Duncan said the problem was not widespread and that no changes to the school’s transfer policy were necessary.

He said Thursday night that only a small percentage of families abuse the transfer policy, but the proposal still has merit.

“By and large it’s still not a huge problem, but it’s an issue and it’s something the board wants to take a look at,” he said.

Several of North Carolina’s 115 school systems require transfer students to sit out a year. But Que Tucker, deputy executive director for the North Carolina High School Athletic Association, the governing body for high school sports in the state, was unaware of any comparable restrictions on coaches.

“I don’t think there’s any question that based on the coaching policies alone, this is clearly one of the strictest rules I’ve heard of in the state,” Tucker said. “Guilford is to be commended for stepping up and making a statement.”

School officials say roughly 2,000 students in the system switch schools each year. An overwhelming number of those transfers are legitimate, but an increasing number are done with sports in mind.

Under the school system’s current policy, a student who enters high school as a freshman but later requests a transfer to a different high school can compete in athletics at that new school without any interruption. Thursday’s proposed change would prohibit that student from playing sports for a year.

If that same student were to move to another school’s attendance zone during the school year, the current policy would allow them to play at the new school immediately. Under the proposed change, the student would have to sit out the rest of the school year.

“Basically you can play at one school per year — less depending on if you transfer and how you do it,” said Leigh Hebbard, the county athletics director.

Thursday’s proposal was born out of concerns generated by Guilford County’s 15 high school athletics directors. In November, when Hebbard became athletics director, he said his ADs shared with him their concerns that families across the county were continuing to abuse the school’s transfer policy.

“(Athletics directors) wanted something in place to guide them along and address a culture that’s gotten out of hand,” Hebbard said. “It’s not just a Guilford County thing, it’s everywhere.”

If the proposal was inspired by athletics directors, it was fueled by the school system’s investigation at Northern Guilford High, where it was determined last month that five students in four sports lived outside the school’s attendance zone.

The discovery cost the boys basketball team its 3-A state crown and the baseball team a berth in the state playoffs. The wrestling and junior varsity softball teams also suffered forfeits.

“I think it’s obvious the complaint at Northern brought all of this to light,” said Garrett, whose district includes Northern Guilford. “People have asked us to address the problem and that’s where we are today.”

Others weren’t so effusive with praise. School board member Garth Hébert said Thursday he supports the proposal, but added the school system’s current rules are just as effective. “We just needed to enforce them,” he said.

Hebbard said the proposal, which will be discussed at next Thursday’s school board meeting, still needs to be tweaked, particularly as it pertains to nonfaculty coaches.

Roughly one-third of the county’s 648 coaches and assistant coaches do not teach or work in the school system. “We obviously can’t apply the same ruling to all of those coaches,” he said. “We’ll have to take it on a case-by-case basis. But this is a good start.”

Page boys basketball coach Robert Kent agreed. Kent also coaches AAU basketball in the summer.

“I’ll gladly give it up for what they’re promising,” Kent said. “If this leads to more coaches cleaning up their act and not steering players in a certain direction, a lot of us will be for it.”

Schools attorney Jill Wilson, who helped devise the plan, said she believes some parents will think the school board is trying to limit where their children can play sports.

“They’re right,” Wilson said. “The bottom line is every student will be allowed to play a sport. Every student has the right to an education. They just don’t have the right to choose the school they want to play sports at, which seems to be where the abuse is.”

Contact Robert Bell at 373-7055 or robert.bell@news-record.com

 

Accompanying Photos

Margaret Baxter (News & Record)

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Huck9

June 5, 2009 - 7:57 am EDT

This is a knee jerk reaction due to not being able to control Coach K. There will be unintended consequences to this proposal. They will be punishing students who have to move during the year through no fault of their own. The problem is not the current system but with the few who abuse the current system.

baseballcoach

June 5, 2009 - 9:07 am EDT

AMEN! enforce the current policies and eliminate those who refuse to adhere to them.

Newspaper Reader

June 6, 2009 - 3:13 pm EDT

I hope the school board votes unanimously against this policy. I do not understand why the committee thinks it's a good idea to punish every student who might HAVE to change schools to prevent some over-zealous athletes from choosing to change schools. This policy is incredibly punitive. For most students, sports is not about a scholarship or going professional. For most students, sports is about spending time with friends, building self-esteem and developing team camaraderie. More to the point, for some students, sports is THE connection to other students at school. How could any caring, compassionate adult purposely choose to pull the rug out from all well-intentioned students SIMPLY to prevent some over-zealous athletes from choosing a school? This policy will involve football, basketball, baseball, softball, lacrosse, track, cross-country, soccer, cheerleading, volleyball, swimming, golf and wrestling. Did I leave anything out? Why don't we just prohibit students from participating in ALL extra-curricular activities for a year? Why stop at sports? That ought to weed out all those students who are changing schools for the "wrong" reasons

I hope the school board keeps this issue in perspective and considers the needs of all students--not just that relatively small number of athletes who are determined to play in college and professionally at all costs. Please don't let one of those costs be all the other children in Guilford County Schools.

in the schools

June 5, 2009 - 8:05 am EDT

Good ideas, poor execution. Guilford County has a very transient population and if a parent's economic situation prompts a move to a new school district, then we'll need some means for allowing that student to stay at the original school so as not to violate the new policy and have to sit out of athletics at the new school. Does the transfer only apply to changes in residence, or if a student transfers due to magnet programs or other previously "legit" reasons do they sit out as well? Also, by only applying this to high schools, we're just moving the recruiting down to middle schools--even more so than it already is. You're also living in a dream world if you think it's possible to have all coaches employed by the school, so I hope the 5 members of that committee are ready for quite a few hearings

baseballcoach

June 5, 2009 - 9:17 am EDT

A knee-jerk reaction to something they allowed to get out of control in the first place. anybody who knows anything about guilford county athletics knows the "star" athletes were taking advantage of the "Academy" and the "IB" programs to better their athletic chances. but now everybody, even the ones whose residence changes for legitimate reasons, would have to suffer. not well thought out at all.

Panacea

June 5, 2009 - 7:33 pm EDT

Oh, give me a break. What you're telling me is, parents can't or are unwilling to commute from one end of the county to the other. You're telling me they HAVE to move if they change jobs, even if in the same county? Nonsense. It takes time to put a house on the market, sell it, buy a house, and move.

If such a case were to occur, the parent could sit it out in the old district long enough for the kid to finish the season.

I think the proposal is a great policy. I advocated it in 2007, but it was too simple and straight forward, so of course it didn't pass. I've said before, it takes a scandal before things change. This is it. Finally.

whatcanIsay

June 5, 2009 - 9:49 pm EDT

The policy says "transfer" It does not say if one "MOVES" So, if your economic situation change and you change addresses you would be fine, but if you ask for a tranfer and remain in the same address, then you would have to sit out.

JustMy2Cents

June 5, 2009 - 8:42 am EDT

Once again the majority is being punished for the actions of a few! People move for all kinds of reasons! It's a shame that some students would not be allowed to play because their parents wanted to move to a different area. Make sure students live in attendance zones and make sure transfers are legitimate. Enforce the rules. . . don't blanket punish everyone.

Get A Clue

June 5, 2009 - 8:57 am EDT

By Robert Bell
Staff Writer
GREENSBORO — Less than two years after saying there was no problem,

Robert: "fewer," not "less."

dandyseniors

June 5, 2009 - 5:34 pm EDT

Get A Clue

I have to agree with Robert Bell. Less is correct not fewer.

dcolin

June 5, 2009 - 9:13 am EDT

"The bottom line is every student will be allowed to play a sport."
Everyone makes the team?

ForTheKids

June 5, 2009 - 10:05 am EDT

Although I commend GCS for attempting to correct an ongoing issue, I do not believe the "1yr sit out rule" is fair for all. For those families who move for economic reasons will be punished tremendously under this rule. How is that fair? For those families who have been waiting for their dream house and close in the middle of a school year, how is that fair? For those families who go thru a divorce, death, or any other life changing circumstance, how is that fair? I really hope they take these things into consideration. I think punishing the kids for adults mistakes is not fair. I really hope they do not approve this as is.

Illiterati

June 5, 2009 - 10:11 am EDT

This plan seems to be based on the pioneering efforts of the Wisconsin Interscholastic Athletic Association, which instituted eligibility guidelines for public school athletics decades ago to address these very issues. (See eligibility guidelines here: http://www.wiaawi.org/index.php?id=7.) These guidelines include the one-year sit-out for transfer students, which is one of the main issues that formed the backbone of the entire program. Parents and students have tried to fight the sit-out rule in court, but very few have been successful.

WIAA guidelines include the stipulation that coaches are not to have contact with players during certain non-school months. School systems around the country have adopted WIAA-style guidelines in response to StanK-type issues. Obviously StanK isn't the only coach pulling this stuff, and parents are indeed complicit, but the fact remains that public education must put academics at the forefront. We can argue the success or failure and loopholes of these guidelines all day, but allowing this type of sports recruiting and willy-nilly transferring is detrimental to student education.

OldReporter

June 5, 2009 - 11:45 am EDT

Get A Clue, you are aptly named.

Both Robert Bell and I know that the exception to less vs. fewer has to do with time, money and distance. "That wedding reception lasted less than two hours. I hope they paid the band less than $400."

You can even look it up on the Internets.
http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/less-versus-fewer.aspx

Not unbearably picky

June 5, 2009 - 1:23 pm EDT

The Plain English Campaign has a simple rule of thumb to help everyone: less means "not as much," whereas fewer means "not as many".
Fewer should be used when you are talking about items that can be counted individually, for example, "fewer than 10 apples". Less is correct when quantities cannot be individually counted in that case, e.g. "I would like less water".
But it can be tricky when referring to quantities, says Marie Clair from the Plain English Campaign. For example, we say less than six weeks, not fewer than six weeks, because we are not referring to six individual weeks, but to a single period of time lasting six weeks.
Some people get "really roused up" about the misuse of less or fewer, she says, and words that describe quantity, degree or amount seem to perplex people.

From http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7591905.stm

stopshopping

June 5, 2009 - 11:55 am EDT

This may be an overreaction, but some action had to be taken. People in the know see clearly that recruiting has been going on in Guilford County. I don't know that the steps taken by the school board will completely stop this practice. More likely, those coaches that cheat will continue to cheat. They will have to scout the rec. programs and get those kids into their school districts much earlier. I know many of the kids involved in the Northern Guilford basketball and football programs. They are not without fault, but they have been convinced that if they don't play for a particular coach or program that they cannot get a college scholarship. College coaches find talent wherever it is to be found. Ask the real Coach K. He found two All-Americans in Alaska, not playing for StanK and the Gaters.

in the schools

June 5, 2009 - 1:22 pm EDT

You hit the nail on the head. It is the parents’ naiveté that is a large factor in the recruiting game and it’s not all their fault. A large percentage of the parents never even went to college, much less have been a part of the college athletics’ recruiting process. As a former college football coach, I’ll attest to the validity of the above post. Actions speak louder than words when it comes to evaluating player talent. It doesn’t matter what school you went to or what coach you have calling; if you can play, you can play. In fact, the film you get that’s decorated and comes with a bio pamphlet with statistics and all that jazz from some hustler of a coach who’s trying to make a little money on the side usually doesn’t get a second look. If it does, it’s because the college coach saw someone from the other team worth looking at. If you’ve got what it takes, you don’t have to tell everyone. They’ll see it.

JustMy2Cents

June 5, 2009 - 2:24 pm EDT

Interestingly enough. .. Minnesota has done the opposite of creating the restrictive rules and allows open enrollment. Bussing is provided only to students who reside in that schools attendance zones. However, students can enroll at any school they choose. Surprisingly enough, it seems to have worked well.

dcolin

June 5, 2009 - 3:11 pm EDT

Sounds good to me.

Now just make all coaches faculty and problem solved.

No money wasted on enforcement .

baseballcoach

June 5, 2009 - 10:53 pm EDT

how do you think requiring all coaches to be faculty is going to solve all the problems? you think no faculty coach has ever recruited or done anything else illegal? did you read the article? 1/3 of the coaches in GC are non-faculty. why is that? do you think AD's prefer non-faculty? i doubt it. i would say it has something to do with the fact that the majority of teachers either do not want to coach or are just not qualified to coach. how will young men learn wrestling if there is nobody on staff that ever wrestled? go get the spanish teacher and force him to coach wrestling. and force the chorus teacher to coach baseball. and as far as enforcement, how do you figure no money wasted? two of the people who lost their jobs at northern were faculty. i'm sure there was time (and money) spent investigating those two. what is it you have against non-faculty coaches? one of them cut you or one of your children?

in the schools

June 5, 2009 - 3:20 pm EDT

Is it a perception or fact that GCS provides transportation for all of their special programs because they must provide equal opportunities for education? If not, why don't folks have to provide their own transportation to all of these magnet programs? We still don't offer equal opportunity for all programs because of enrollment constraints.

To me that reverts back to segregated schools not being "separate but equal." We are generally socially self-segregated as a society--black neighborhoods, white neighborhoods, Hispanic neighborhoods, etc. If I can't afford to drive my kids to a different school then they will attend my neighborhood school that doesn't afford them the opportunities of the magnet program across town. This then brings up the age old chicken/egg debate of race vs socio-economic status which can fill another blog entirely. Just food for thought.

Panacea

June 5, 2009 - 7:37 pm EDT

Sort of. It's in the budget. Transportation for student athletes is in the budget. I don't recall seeing one for other students in magnet programs--though I could have missed it.

Illiterati

June 5, 2009 - 5:21 pm EDT

Open enrollment is one thing, but varsity sports eligibility for transfer students is another. Does Minnesota's open enrollment say anything about sports eligibility? And is open enrollment a statewide policy, or are we talking about certain cities within the state?

I agree that open enrollment in general can work out well. I'm just curious if eligibility plays into this it all.

dandyseniors

June 5, 2009 - 7:09 pm EDT

If you have open enrollment, then there will be stacked teams vs. teams that can't compete and nobody would want to play for. If you want to be on an "All Star" team you should attend a private school.

bball fan

June 5, 2009 - 7:55 pm EDT

Believe me, right here in greensboro, there are athletes that are being heavily recruited that do not attend dudley or northern..these kids are seen in the summer playing travel ball; thats where the scholarships really come from...coaches see you in the summer, and then visit you at the high school...

igliigli

June 6, 2009 - 8:29 pm EDT

The policy should be implemented immediately.
I don't think it goes far enough toward the
corruption sports brings to schools, but it is
a good start.

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