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Foxx says Shepard murder was not a hate crime

Thursday, April 30, 2009
(Updated 11:00 am)

Comments by Rep. Virginia Foxx while debating a measure related to federal hate-crimes legislation Wednesday have angered members of the gay community.

Foxx referenced the October 1998 killing of Matthew Shepard, a University of Wyoming student who witnesses testified at trial was killed because he was gay.

“We know that young man was killed in the commitment of a robbery,” Foxx said on the floor of the House. “It wasn’t because he was gay. The bill was named for him, the hate-crimes bill was named for him, but it’s really a hoax that continues to be used as an excuse for passing these bills.”

Shepard’s killing became a rallying point for the gay rights community. Imagery connected with the slaying — Shepard was tied up, beaten and left for dead on a wooden fence — became an iconic rallying point for those pushing to include gays and lesbians in federal hate-crime protections.

Foxx was leading Republicans in debate connected to HR 1913, which would expand the number of crimes that would fall under federal hate-crime laws. The bill, which passed the House on a 249-175 vote, would add gays and lesbians to the categories of people protected under those laws.

Jim Neal, a one-time candidate for U.S. Senate who is gay, called Foxx’s statements “ignorant.”

“I’m baffled that any kind of elected representative would make that kind of absurd and heartless comment about a young man whose life was taken away from him, and taken away because he was gay,” Neal said.

A staffer for Foxx pointed to a report by the ABC program “20/20” that quoted a police detective as saying that drugs and money motivated the robbery-murder, not the fact that Shepard was gay.

News reports after the slaying indicated Shepard made a pass at one of the defendants. That man, Aaron McKinney, raised a “gay panic” defense at trial, saying he was so enraged because of traumatic boyhood experiences.

Foxx acknowledged using the word “hoax” might have been insensitive.

“The term 'hoax’ was a poor choice of words used in the discussion of the hate-crimes bill,” Foxx said in a statement Wednesday. “Mr. Shepard’s death was nothing less than a tragedy, and those responsible for his death certainly deserved the punishment they received.”

Still, the pushback against Foxx’s remarks continued. N.C. Democrats asked members to call the state Republican Party and challenge Foxx’s comments. Video spread across the Internet, and gay activists remained incensed.

“He was killed because he was gay and she is making light of that fact,” said Matt Comer, who grew up in Foxx’s Winston-Salem-based district and edits Q-Notes, a Charlotte-based publication geared toward a gay audience. “We shouldn’t forget why he died just like we shouldn’t forget why Hitler murdered Jews during World War II. It was hate.”

Foxx’s district is rated one of the nation’s more conservative.

“She’s not going to have any blow-back there,” Comer said. “More than likely, there will be a lot of people who agree with her.” Most of the outrage over her remarks, Comer said, would be limited to the gay community.

Contact Mark Binker at (919)832-5549 or mark.binker@news-record.com

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sweetpea

April 29, 2009 - 5:31 pm EDT

I am a middle-aged, straight woman and I am outraged.

serendipity

April 29, 2009 - 8:05 pm EDT

Kudos to you for standing up against the many others who as she still live life with blinders on!!!

mikesus

April 30, 2009 - 1:38 am EDT

jeffreyhsykes

April 30, 2009 - 8:35 am EDT

Speaking as a Republican grassroots activist, a married father and a sometime Christian, I believe Foxx's comment was erroneous and she should immediately offer an apology to Shepard's mother.

Foxx has already acknowledged her word choice was in error. She should complete the retraction with a sincere apology.

There is little to be gained in our political debate from the continued path of extremity so many of our leaders seem intent to remain upon.

barbati

April 29, 2009 - 5:35 pm EDT

Yes, and my what fine clothes the emperor is wearing.

lola

April 29, 2009 - 5:49 pm EDT

I am also a happily married middle age woman and I too am totally outraged, as is my husband. Because of stupid, insensitive remarks like that, people will never see NC as anything but a back woods, ignorant state.

Ms. Foxx should not only apologize to the Shepard family, but to the gay population in general.

serendipity

April 29, 2009 - 8:04 pm EDT

Kudos to you for standing up against the many others who as she still live life with blinders on.

ceweller

April 29, 2009 - 5:55 pm EDT

This is probably one of the most ignorant things I've EVER heard someone say. A person isn't murdered that brutally unless there's hate involved.

For the record, I'm straight. For Foxx's people to think only gay organizations would be upset by this comment is also very ignorant.

percy

April 29, 2009 - 6:09 pm EDT

I am also shocked and outraged by such ignorant and backwards comments. This from an elected official. Everyone should voice their opinions to the lady herself by contacting her through
http://www.foxx.house.gov/

indyNC

April 29, 2009 - 6:17 pm EDT

Foxx represents a shining beacon of ignorance for all those as close minded as herself. She sounds like she belongs in Texas.

kikablue

April 29, 2009 - 6:51 pm EDT

EXCUSE ME, I'm from Texas and not all Texans are racists no more than NC, or any other state. It's certain people not the whole of the people. Your comment can be construed as racist and bigoted. But I know you are angry, as I am and many others. Not only should she apologize for her ignorant remark to his family, and the gay community, but the American People, and then she should resign. We do not need any person serving in any office spreading hate.

Bruce1900

April 29, 2009 - 11:24 pm EDT

I agree that there are probably some open minded Texans. Foxx's comments just shocked the conscious so much we want to point to something worse and more backwards. Unfortunately Texas comes to mind whether it is justified or not.

mikesus

April 30, 2009 - 1:20 am EDT

Cuz making hateful statements makes a LOT of sense when voicing your anger about a comment on a hate crime bill...

How ironic!

indyNC

April 30, 2009 - 10:20 am EDT

I would hope that everyone is familiar with some of the recent rhetoric coming from Texas Lawmakers.

Simply making a comparison.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/09/brown-asian-names/

gcs_scandals

April 29, 2009 - 6:28 pm EDT

Murder is murder. It was tragic what happened to Matthew Shepard. I feel for his family. To call a murder a hate crime is pointless. Is it murder? Did someone take another person's life? Yes, it is murder. Hate crime legislation only fuels the fire of racism. 2 men took the life of Eve Carson, which was just as tragic and horrible as Matthew Shepard's murder. I don't hear people calling it a hate crime, even thought it was 2 thugs killing an innocent white woman. Government double standard at work. Just call it murder. Drop the hate crime legislation.

gso me

April 29, 2009 - 7:39 pm EDT

Indeed, murder is murder, but murder that stems from HATE is quite different. Interestingly, the fact that there was a "gay panic" defense, that was in some minds reason enough for brutally beating someone to death, shows how different this is from the murder of Eve Carson or anyone else for money. I doubt ANYONE would consider an impoverished or underprivilged defense for these young men or others who have committed murder during a robbery as a reason for leniency.

Not acknowledging that HATE crimes exist and are quite different from many other crimes only perpetuates the problem.

mikesus

April 30, 2009 - 1:17 am EDT

So lemme get this straight. You believe that a murder because of hate is more of a crime than say just murder? So you condone discrimination against the victims of say a normal every day murder?

Folks, you can't legislate out hate. You can only punish people that do things against the law. By definition criminals break laws, so thinking that adding another law on top of a law is going to make a difference is folly. But obviously it helps you sleep at night to know that you have added yet another law that will be ignored by criminals, and panned by judges...

Let's get judges that actually enforce the laws we have, and jails and prisons that can hold criminals for their entire sentence. That is the part that is broke.

barbati

April 30, 2009 - 7:13 am EDT

The hate crimes law makes the act a federal crime that can be prosecuted in federal courts by US Attorneys. Without the hate crimes law there would be no federal jurisdiction and it would fall to local authorities to prosecute the crimes. History has shown us that crimes motivated by hatred of groups (be they racial, religious, homosexual, etc) might not be vigorously prosecuted by local authorities. (Just think about the history of the civil rights era.)

This is the pragmatic reason for the necessity of a federal hate crimes law. Indeed, Ms. Foxx's statements perfectly illustrate the provincial attitudes that - if broadly shared within a local area - require the exercise of federal jurisdiction to assure that justice is served.

jlh7738

April 29, 2009 - 6:35 pm EDT

After this ringing contempt for truth and the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, I wonder why somebody doesn't challenge this anachronistic woman for her seat. Often, watching her speak on "morning speeches" at the beginning of the House of Representatives daily session, I'm baffled how she's managed to hang on so long. Isn't there some more progressive human being in Forsyth County who came come to the District's aid and defeat her? I certainly hope so.

Dogwood

April 30, 2009 - 12:54 pm EDT

Rep.Virginia Foxx is a product of Watauga County and gerrimandering. She had worthy opposition in November. The Republicans slammed and slimmed him and he lost. He was college professor and a good man. She won. She did not get my vote. She did get the straight ticket vote.

kitchenwench

April 29, 2009 - 6:50 pm EDT

I am 43, married, straight, and outraged. She's entitled to her opinion, but as we say in the South, "I don't believe I'd have told that."

Liquidsky

April 29, 2009 - 7:14 pm EDT

I am sad and sickened to be represented by Virginia Foxx. She should be ashamed of herself. I think if she gained some perspective, from gay people especially, maybe she would be enlightened.

retired08

April 29, 2009 - 7:37 pm EDT

And we thought Jesse was as bad as it could get. Add me to the list of outraged. Denying hate crimes only fuels the fire. Time to speak with our votes in Foxx's district.

serendipity

April 29, 2009 - 8:03 pm EDT

I learned in my life time not to put my foot in my mouth, especially when I do not know ALL THE FACTS. Too bad she has assumed the real reason was just a simply robbery, when all the facts show that the men who committed this crime were full of hatred while doing what they did to Matthew.

Clearly this woman limits her perspective or wears very dark glasses to avoid issues that are not easy to vote against because most still judge those of us who believe we are all created equal and should have the same protection rights.

I am a new resident to NC and I will certainly need to discover those who are ignorant as this before I vote.

ravencottage

April 29, 2009 - 8:48 pm EDT

I am a 60 year old gay man and I think since hate and love are subjective feelings which cannot be quantified neither has any place in a court of law. Murder is murder regardless of the motive. Is it any greater a crime if a husband murders his wife because he hates her? No. The concept of a "Hate Crime" is simply the recent product of feel good legislatures and judges appeasing their constituents. Matthew Shepard and Eve Carson were victims of true evil. It is possible to believe they were "hated" by their murderers but impossible to really know. What I really find so odd and I think safe to say, most folks who support hate crime legislation are also pro abortion and even pro partial birth abortion.

percy

April 29, 2009 - 9:14 pm EDT

ravencottage said "What I really find so odd and I think safe to say, most folks who support hate crime legislation are also pro abortion and even pro partial birth abortion." Really?! I mean REALLY? You are about as astute as Ms Foxx, perhaps she has a spot on her staff for you under the obscenely misinformed.

ravencottage

April 29, 2009 - 11:20 pm EDT

Really.

nfoste2245

April 30, 2009 - 1:21 pm EDT

Are you serious? Why do you really think that any woman is "pro-abortion"? I may or may not make the decision to have an abortion. But I absolutely do NOT believe I have the right to make that decision for anyone else. And I certainly never ceded control or authority of my body over to the state or federal government. It is not about abortion, it is about choice. And NO man, not a judge or a husband or a father, should ever be in control over a woman's body.

barbati

April 30, 2009 - 7:17 am EDT

Raven, you missed the point here. The law is not a "feel good" measure. The point is to give US Attorneys the ability to prosecute these cases in federal courts. See the discussion above.

ravencottage

April 30, 2009 - 8:59 am EDT

I beg to differ but I did not miss the point. The sole point is to give certain political constituencies more than equal protection under the law or at least make them think they have it in exchange for their votes and money. Hate Crime legislation is pandering of the worst sort but so typical of its backers who think it's just fine for a woman to hate her baby so much she would allow it to be killed seconds before birth. Just look at the list of the sponsors and those who voted for this in the House.

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