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Dormitory debate not just case of old vs. new

Saturday, April 18, 2009
(Updated 10:43 pm)

GREENSBORO — Students, staff and faculty at UNCG have been divided for weeks over what to do with the campus Quad. The seven buildings that make up the historic area are some of the oldest on campus — and in the worst shape.

The university is considering either gutting the dormitories for renovation or demolishing them to make way for modern ones. But some say that as the debate rages on, there’s a question that’s not being asked: Why are the Quad’s dorms in such bad shape to begin with?

The short answer: The dorms, built between 1919 and 1923 , have gone without $32 million  in maintenance, including  updates to bad wiring and plumbing  along with the lack of air conditioning, fire sprinklers and handicapped access.

The longer answer: Well, it’s complicated.

“There’s always a lot of deferred maintenance on any campus,” said Mary Hummel , the school’s director of Housing and Residence Life .

Hummel said UNCG’s housing department, like many nationwide, receives no money from the state or from tuition. It’s funded entirely on renting to students — something harder to do when old dorms have to compete with new, off- campus apartments. It also makes it difficult to maintain older dorms, which need a lot of work.

“With the Quad it’s been more complicated, because we’ve taken a look and decided not to do things piece by piece, but instead to try to do something significant with the area as a whole.”

The controversy is over what that “something significant” should be.

Many on-campus students say they would prefer newer, suite-style dorms with modern amenities over the two-student rooms with end-of-hall bathrooms shared by dozens.

Preservationists — including many students and alumni — say they’d like to keep as much of the old dorms and character of the Quad as possible.

Jo Leimenstoll , a professor in the school’s department of Interior Architecture , said she doesn’t think it has to be one or the other.

“I think that a lot of people are framing it as the choice between modern dorms and history,” Leimenstoll said. “But if you’re careful and creative, you can really have both.”

Leimenstoll’s department includes the state’s only graduate concentration in historical preservation. She says the Quad debate has her pointing her students to examples where historical dorms have become modern, blue-chip residence halls, like UNC-Chapel Hill’s Old East  and Old West  dorms.

“Those are some of the oldest dorms on campus, but with careful restoration they’ve become wonderful, 21st-century dorms and some of the most popular on campus,” Leimenstoll said. “You can also see that on UVA’s campus and N.C. State.”

Leimenstoll said as long as the university continues to see the Quad’s fate as an either/or proposition, it’s missing an opportunity to marry the cachet of historical buildings with modern amenities.

Some students agree.

“When you think about these dorms, they’re really one of the cornerstones on which the University was built,” said  Kurt Huizenga , a junior at UNCG who once lived just off the Quad. “You can build something new that looks like them, but it’s not the same thing. Or you could take something old and make it new. That’s always better.”

The school’s Board of Trustees met Thursday to discuss the Quad’s place in the school’s master plan. The board asked Chancellor Linda Brady to explore all options for the area before bringing a recommendation.

“I think there is going to be a lot more conversation before we recommend something,” Brady said. “There are a lot of options we’re just beginning to explore.”
 

Contact Joe Killian at 373-7023 or joe.killian@news-record.com
 

Accompanying Photos

Jerry Wolford (News & Record)

Photo Caption: A quad at UNCG's campus.

MORE ONLINE

To view the presentation on options for the UNCG Quad, go to https://web.uncg.edu/cha/bot/2008-2009/Apr_16_2009

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igliigli

April 18, 2009 - 8:58 am EDT

It is sickening the UNC System schools do not have enough money
to maintain classrooms and dorms but can pay multi-million dollar
coaches. Support academics and get rid of the coaches.

tcrudisi

April 18, 2009 - 9:45 am EDT

It is sickening how the NC government and UNC schools don't pay a penny out of their own personal budget to support sports and the multi-million dollar coaches. The sports programs have their own budgets, paid for by their own revenues. Take Chapel Hill for example, where their $3.6 million dollar basketball coach was paid by ... their own revenues. In fact, Tar Heel basketball gave the University almost a million dollars last year to use towards academics. We should get rid of the sports programs! I absolutely hate being a college student and having the sports department pay for part of my education. I say we screw over academics and get rid of the coaches.

igliigli

April 18, 2009 - 11:20 am EDT

The NC taxpayers subsidize the Dean Dome every year to the tune of 1.3 million dollars a year.
And the taxpayers are subsiding the sports teams more than 10 million dollars a year by
the out-of-state athletes paying in-state tuition.
Plus the taxpayer paid state employees who work in support of the sports teams.
Plus the extra police and highway patrol used to control traffic, much less the
lawyers.
Plus the hundreds of dollars in fee the real students are required to pay to cover the
professional sports teams losses.

Support academics, get rid of the coaches and sports teams.

mtreeder

April 18, 2009 - 4:58 pm EDT

I work for the UNC system, and trust me when I tell you, it has nothing to do with college sports, which bring millions to the UNC system every year. Colleges can and do have successful academic programs as well as sports teams. You sound like a bitter kid who always got picked last in gym class.

kikablue

April 18, 2009 - 7:01 pm EDT

Well mtreeder, WHATS IN YOUR WALLET???????????????????????

mtreeder

April 18, 2009 - 7:43 pm EDT

I have no idea what this question means or how it relates to my first post...

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