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Trustees want more details on Quad plans

Friday, April 17, 2009
(Updated 10:10 am)

GREENSBORO — UNCG’s trustees said Thursday they aren’t ready to decide the fate of some of the school’s oldest dormitories.

The board asked Chancellor Linda Brady and her staff to do more work on options for the dorms before presenting a recommendation to the board.

Board member Randall Kaplan said the issue goes beyond the fate of the dorms to where the campus is going.

“What is it we would ideally want to make this a campus of first choice?” Kaplan said. “As we make these decisions, what does it drive us into?”

The seven buildings, which make up the campus’ historic Quad area, are so old and in such disrepair that the school faces a tough choice: demolish and replace them with new, modern buildings or gut and renovate them, preserving their shells.

Preservationists — including many students and alumni — want the buildings renovated. Many students living on campus say they’d prefer to do away with the Quad buildings, which have bad wiring and plumbing and are without air conditioning, fire sprinklers and handicapped access.

Either option will cost in the neighborhood of $100 million , school officials estimate.

The school plans to add 1,200 on-campus students by 2017, the first 400 by 2011 . Brady told the board that to meet that goal, the school would have to begin working toward renovation or rebuilding as soon as possible.

She said last week that she hoped to have a decision on the Quad by May 1. But she and other board members now say the issue is too complicated to decide that quickly.

The chancellor has had a series of open forums on the issue during which she has heard from students, faculty, staff members and alumni. She said she has been surprised by the uniformity of on-campus student sentiment for new construction.

Michael Tuso , president of the school’s Student Government Association, told the board that he has heard the same while talking to students and through surveys taken by the SGA and Residence Hall Association.

“The SGA and the Residence Hall Association are on the same page, which doesn’t always happen,” Tuso said. “But the students have been overwhelmingly in favor of rebuilding.”

On Thursday, the board saw a presentation on options for the Quad that is now available on the school’s Web site.

Some board members had the same criticism that preservationists expressed a week ago: Plans for rebuilding seem fleshed out in drawings and diagrams, but the options for renovation seem much less detailed.

The board asked Brady and her staff to do more work on both plans, presenting as many options as possible.

They also wanted to revisit the campus’s master plan for future development, approved in 2007 , to see how renovating the dorms or building new ones might fit in.

Trustees agreed to meet again as soon as a recommendation could be made, even if that comes before their next scheduled meeting in September.

Board chairman Stephen Hassenfelt said he wanted to be sure the board makes the best decision not just for the Quad, but also for the future growth of the university.

“We need to put this in the context of what it’s going to accomplish on campus, not just bricks and mortar,” Hassenfelt said.

Brady said she is committed to exploring all options.

“This is indeed the largest project ever undertaken on this campus in terms of cost and scope,” she said.

“We’re really trying to focus on where we want to be as a campus.”

Contact Joe Killian at 373-7023 or joe.killian@news-record.com

Accompanying Photos

Jerry Wolford (News & Record)

Photo Caption: A quad at UNCG's campus.

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kikablue

April 17, 2009 - 8:59 am EDT

Why in the world would UNCG'S trustees want to destroy something that is part of Greensboro's history? Those are beautiful buildings. If they are renovated it would be cheaper in the long run, and beautiful. If they are torn down and square boxes put up, it is what they will look like, no design, just a bunch of concrete, glass and steel boxes. Also it will destroy the ambiance of that area.

GCSparent

April 17, 2009 - 10:12 am EDT

Would you want your child to live in a building that is old, not up to today's safety codes and not have top security? I should hope not. It is much more expensive to retrofit an old building to today's codes and standards than it is to start from scratch.

I understand the desire to preserve history, however, as the parent of three future college students I would much rather my child live in the best living situation that a college can offer. They will be able to build new dorms keeping with the "look of the campus" for a far better price and help to keep tuition costs down. It makes sense to me.

TmV83

April 20, 2009 - 10:34 pm EDT

As a graduate of UNCG - and legacy of ancestors that lived in the same buildings, I am outraged about the possible consideration of this project.

You say that you want the best for you children - how about also creating a respect for history. If you would like your child to have a new and shinny sleeping quarters then there are still several new dorms on UNCGs campus that you may have your pick from. And trust me they will have nothing but a prox card entry as a form of security, which is already installed on all buildings, including the Quad. So I promise you the security of the buildings will be similar, if not exactly the same. (Almost all campus dorms in North Carolina work off the prox card system - so no matter where you go, from UNCG to Duke to Wake Forest, your children will be safe).

Sometimes one has to bite the bullet and spend the money needed to take care of our facilities. Who is being held accountable for these buildings not remaining up to code? Maybe UNCG should have looked at renovating buildings in need prior to adding the new: high rise, cafe, coffee shop, parking deck, and mail center all in one building on the corner of Spring Garden & Aycock. The simple fact is someone higher up decided they did not like the Quad, wanted to reshape the look of the campus - put their own mark on UNCG - and let the Quad rot away to achieve that. Its really sad to be honest with you. So now those of us who honestly enjoy the historical aspect of UNCG will suffer. As well as future students who, like myself, want to spend time in the same buildings as their loved ones before them. I am all about bringing these buildings up to code, and if you read these articles and proposals closely - no matter which direction the board decides to go it will cost close to 100M. So if the difference is a few degrees one way or the other, than why not make the effort to preserve as much of the actual building as possible.

As for keeping costs down - The fact is UNCG is a growing university, no matter if they renovate or rebuild - tuition cost will increase because the demand for admission to UNCG is increasing. (Simple Econ 201 - Thank you Dr. Link) So if tuition increase is the main factor in your decision then Id say just go ahead and keep driving down the street to GTCC. Because it will not get any cheaper anytime soon despite how many bulldozers one takes to our campus.

While we are at it - lets just tear down everything that does not work, isn't up to code, and replace it with similar "looking" replicas, who cares about historical content right? The Liberty Bell, seriously - that thing hasn't worked for years. The Alamo, lets just bulldoze that and build a real fort that is up to date and is equipped with top security. The Naval Observatory, its just a house right - lets knock it out and build a real Navy Observatory. I'm sure the Vice President would love to reside in a modern house that has "made in China" stamped on every appliance, nail, and wire and has absolutely no tie to our heritage at all. How about we go to every United States college campus and knock down historical landmarks that really don't comply with todays standards of living. In fact, lets just start with the first University and work our way down. UNC - That Old Well really needs to go.

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