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Probation office stretched thin

Sunday, January 25, 2009
(Updated 7:27 am)

GREENSBORO - Overwhelmingly big case loads and low pay are overburdening Guilford County's probation system, leaving many offenders without direction or supervision and putting the public at risk.

Of the county's 6,185 probationers, 1,219 of them could not be found as of Wednesday, probation officials said.

Just do the math: Each of the 90 probation officers assigned to Guilford County must keep tabs on nearly 70 probationers.

Good probation officers are leaving, tired of juggling heavy case loads and long hours for little pay. Offenders keep committing crimes in a system meant to help them become productive citizens.

And it costs taxpayers when criminals return to an expensive and crowded prison system. And when innocent people are put in danger.

The 2008 slayings of UNC-Chapel Hill student body President Eve Carson and Duke University graduate student Abhijit Mahato brought problems with the state's probation system to the forefront.

The suspects in those crimes were on probation but had received little or no attention from their probation officers, according to media reports.

State officials maintain that such lax oversight isn't widespread, and local officials maintain that although their office has its problems, it is run well.

Underfunded, overworked

Max Gerald and his assistants in the 18th Judicial District office of the state's Division of Community Correction say many of the problems arise because the probation system is underfunded and officers are overworked.

"It's a cause-and-effect thing here because nobody wants to raise taxes," said Gerald, who oversees probation in Guilford County. "To get where we need to get, (money is) one of the major issues."

Gov. Bev Perdue announced plans earlier this month to deal with a nearly $2 billion budget shortfall for the upcoming fiscal year. Of the proposed cuts, $93 million likely will be cut from crime and punishment programs.

"The ultimate question will be with the worsening economy and the deficit we find ourselves in: How are we going to find the resources to tackle the (probation) problem?" said newly elected state Sen. Don Vaughan. "We need to find a way to stretch our resources to make probation effective."

Vaughan, a local attorney with 25 years of experience, plans to make the probation system one of his priorities in the General Assembly. The state also needs to look at how probation cases are handled in the courts, he said.

"On Monday morning, you can wait an hour to an hour and a half just to get inside the courtroom door because of the volume of (probation) cases in Guilford County," Vaughan said.

"It's overwhelming right now, and I think the Eve Carson case in Chapel Hill was the awakening of the state legislature that the system needs attention.''

A revolving door

Pay is another issue. Probation officers are paid the same statewide. But in urban areas with higher case loads, more court hearings and issues such as gangs, many officers are leaving the job, probation officials said.

"We have officers come in, stay two or three years and get some work experience, and move on to bigger and better things," Gerald said. "It's a revolving door. ... To keep good people, you are going to have to pay them."

On average, a state probation officer with a few years of experience makes about $37,000 a year. A federal probation officer can make about $50,000.

Ideally, Gerald said, he needs 12 to 15 more probation officers in Guilford County and a case load of about 45 to 50 cases each. He would like to see pay start at $40,000 for community-level officers and in the $50,000 range for intermediate officers.

"(Vacancies) put extra burden on the officers because someone has to supervise those cases," said Garry McCluskey, an assistant judicial district manager. "That sort of becomes a piling-on ... that creates undue hardship on the officers we do have."

Keeping track of nearly 70 cases requires time management and priorities, Gerald said.

Each day, probation officers in Guilford County put on a variety of hats when they supervise criminals. They are counselors, supervisors, authority figures, mentors, law enforcement officers and, ultimately, the last chance criminals in Guilford County have before landing in jail or state prison.

With limited time and so many cases to juggle, some offenders don't get the help they need through probation, Gerald said.

"You've got cases with various problems - unemployment, lack of education, housing, transportation and other things - that we try to address," Gerald said.

"To provide the type of quality supervision for each individual case, you have to prioritize your time. If you don't address those needs, that offender will stay in the same environment with the same friends doing the same thing."

For some offenders, probation can be a one-stop shop for the guidance they have never gotten, said Tracy Parr, an assistant judicial district manager.

"It's a reality. We are a referral source. We are a counseling source. We wear a lot of different hats," she said. "We work to teach them there are consequences for the choices they make, and we can help them if they allow us to help them make good sound decisions."

Parr recently received a call from a man she supervised in High Point in the early 1990s when he was on probation for financial crimes.

"He called to say he had a full-time job, was married and had two kids," Parr said. "He said he didn't like me then, but thanked me. Years later, many of these offenders realize we had their best interest at heart."

Missing in action

Another major issue, Parr and others say, is an overall disrespect for the judicial system by offenders who purposely avoid their probation officers.

In December, the News & Observer of Raleigh reported that state probation officials couldn't account for 14,000 of the more than 114,000 probationers they were assigned to supervise.

In Guilford County, nearly a fifth of probationers could not be found as of Wednesday, officials said.

That figure can sound alarming, but Gerald said it's not a case of his office losing the probationers. The majority are people skipping out on probation, and not all of them are violent offenders.

"If that offender changes his address without prior approval by his probation officer, we don't know where he's at and he doesn't make himself available for supervision," Gerald said.

"We cannot supervise an offender if we can't find him."

When a person is assigned to probation, an officer collects addresses, phone numbers, birth dates, Social Security numbers and other identifying information.

If the person cannot be found, the officer checks with employers, hospitals and the jail, McCluskey said. If the person still isn't found, the officer files paperwork in Raleigh identifying the person as an absconder.

Each absconder is entered into the National Crime Information Center used by all law enforcement agencies.

Absconders who fall through the cracks often find their way back to prison for a variety of crimes, ranging from misdemeanor trespassing to murder.

"Nine times out of 10 that's how they get captured - when they commit another offense," Gerald said. "A lot of the times, they get picked up in traffic stops."

The News & Observer series cited 580 offenders who killed someone while on probation since 2000.

Christopher Nathaniel Little of High Point is a suspect in one of those cases. The 19-year-old man was put on probation in October 2007 on a charge of driving with a revoked license, and he absconded a month later, according to court records.

High Point police say Little and two other men robbed and killed Jermaine Quentine Collins in a home invasion on Dec. 18, 2007.

Little was arrested in Augusta, Ga., in January 2008 and now faces murder, kidnapping, burglary and robbery charges. The case has not gone to court.

Another thing making probation officers' jobs difficult is the growing number of juveniles who commit crimes, local officials say.

"Although juvenile and adult probation are working toward a similar goal, we do not have (access) to juvenile records," Parr said. "We may get a 16-year-old offender that has been in the system for years and years, but we aren't given that information.''

An offender's criminal background is part of what determines the level of supervision a probationer receives, but a juvenile with a violent history could get minimal supervision because his record is closed at 16.

"You may have a gang member ... involved in some serious, violent crimes, but because he or she doesn't have an adult history, (he or she) might be assigned to a community-level officer," Gerald said.

Cheaper alternative to jail

The state's probation system is set up to serve two main purposes: to avoid adding people to crowded jails and prisons and to guide offenders back onto the right track, Gerald said.

And probation is more cost-efficient than prison. For each offender housed in a state prison in the 2007-08 fiscal year, taxpayers paid an average of $74.77 a day, according to the N.C. Department of Correction.

The cost of probation, depending on the level of supervision, can range from 83 cents per day for a community service work program to $28.84 a day for a sex offender who requires GPS monitoring.

"People who don't really need to go to prison and make a mistake still can be productive members of society. If they have a substance abuse problem, we can treat that. We can keep them in the community and paying taxes," Gerald said.

"I'm a firm believer that we can't send everyone to prison. The bottom line is that we can't afford it. We are going to (run) ourselves to the poor house."

Chief District Court Judge Joseph E. Turner said he prefers putting offenders on probation to sending them to prison because there's a better chance the offender can become a productive citizen.

"We are never going to build our way out of there being crime," Turner said. "We don't want to put that many people in jail, and we can't afford to."

Turner agreed that more probation officers would be beneficial for the state, reducing case loads and allowing officers to spend more time rehabilitating offenders.

"They would be able to do more mentoring, guiding, counseling, in addition to giving them a strong talking to so they don't repeat as offenders," Turner said. In order to save money on state prisons, you are going to have to put money into those things that keep people out of prison."

 

Contact Ryan Seals at 373-7077 or ryan.seals@news-record.com

 

 

Accompanying Photos

Nelson Kepley

Photo Caption: Don Vaughan, (right) and Tom Carruthers at the Guilford County Courthouse.

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ncb

January 25, 2009 - 10:40 am EST

Don Vaughan continues to be master of the obvious. Has this guy ever done anything substantial in his career? Seriously, as a lawyer what has he accomplished, what is he known for? What about in politics? What has he done except get elected and reelected? What the hades does he stand for?

And yet, here he is again getting his face in front of a camera and identifying a problem that everyone already knew existed. Thanks for that, chief.

katie

January 25, 2009 - 11:11 am EST

this record has been broked for years, same old song, different photo, the first line level personnel aways get the short end of every stick..only after some one is killed does someone listen..probation has always been a problem..lack of personel to meet the needs of the system..

give more money for the lawyers and judges pockets..as always....they make those decisions in the back hallways of the court house..layers become judges then return to private practice and make big money..sound like a plan to me
or hold a public office then return to private practice with a hugh client base operation..sounds like a plan..it is and it's in your county, state and nation....
although some have good intentions, they give up after a while because the system is broken...
the LEO, probation officers have always been lower paid and short of help..why? because the judges and lawyers allow them to be..they control the money..and that's what it is all about..
believe me I have seen it..

Publius

January 28, 2009 - 9:07 am EST

I could not agree more with NCB...someone please relate what Don Vaughn has ever done or accomplished in his career?
It is sad indeed to note that so many probationers are "running from supervision" and hiding from their assigned Probation Officers. But these are self-admitted criminals, or convicted criminals - so running and hiding from justice would seem to be more of a "norm."
However, it was not long ago that I remember reading that Don Vaughn was about to be expelled from entry into the Courthouse of Guilford County - and why you may ask? Simple - he could not keep up with his security swipe card for employee entry into the building. The N&O did quite a story on that bit of the Great Don Vaughn. It is laughable that an individual that cannot keep track of his own personal items for conducting daily business has placed himself in charge for correcting the judicial system of North Carolina. Guilford County and the State of North Carolina would be far better served if the Great Don Vaughn were retired from public service where he could then roam the streets of downtown in his "nettletons."

Paul J

January 25, 2009 - 11:48 am EST

Everyone one is always overworked and underpaid. Did they not check the pay scale before applying?
70 inmates per officer equals 5 per day every 2 months. That is 1.6 per hour. What is the problem. More time working and less talking will work wonders.

truthprevails

January 25, 2009 - 3:07 pm EST

The Probation Office has always been an agency that has too much nepotism first of all. People might stay and settle for less pay if it is a decent place to work. There is so much favoritism going on that even if you wanted to stay and help Probationers become productive citizens, you can't because management is terrible. They have too many Chiefs and not enough Indians. If you take away some of the many management positions, then the people who need the money and are doing all of the work, the Officers, then there will be more money to pay the people actually doing the work. You might be there for 20 years and a person with way less experience but has political favor will come in and be your Supervisor. Ask Mr. Gerald, he received his job through political favors and his boss Roselyn Powell did too. Ms. Powell started out as a regular officer and was promoted up about six positions even though she was terrified of Probationers when she was a regular officer. She wouldn't even go even go see her Probationers if they lived in the Public Housing Developments. She had political pull though and was good friends with Robert Guy who was recently forced out of his position over the Department. Experience doesn't necessarily mean that you know more but the person with no experience can't be effective because he/she doesn't know the job, but has just lined someone's pocket.Then they wonder why people are missing or are not being supervised appropriately. The blind leading the blind. They harass officers so bad because they have to show the people that they received the job from that they can be tough. I hope Gov. Perdue will get rid of the "Good Old Boy/Girl" Network" and bring in fresh and unbiased people.The bottom line is people need to take the politics out of that department and other things will fall into place. Start supervising Probationers and stop harassing employees and they will be able to focus on the Probationers. The Officers are on the front line doing all of the work and they need to be able to work in peace and be rewarded for their hard work. Trim down management and pay the soldiers doing the work. As for the pay, the gentleman who thinks that Officers' should be happy with their pay doesn't understand how dangerous that job is. Police Officers are far better trained but Probation Officers are not equipped to handle the same things but has to deal with the same people. You are going to someone's house unarmed and might have to face anything. The guys that killed Eve Carson would have had numerous contact with un armed Probation Officers. It's scary because you never know who you are dealing with. The case with Eve Carson situation is common everywhere but it was magnified because of who she was. Cases always go unsupervised but they make a big deal out of it when it hits the news only.You have high turnover and Supervisors won't see the Probationers until someone is hired. A new Officer might come in and be responsible for 70 people even though they have never been to Probation school to be trained. They need to deal with people leaving the Dept. and you can cut down on some problems. Out with the old and in with the new, I say...

overworked/underpaid

January 25, 2009 - 7:37 pm EST

Wow, that's a pretty uneducated thing to say. Do you work in probation? Do you know what the job entails or what the day to day tasks consist of? First of all, as a probation officer in Greensboro do you know that you are required to be present for Superior Court which takes up one whole week a month of your time? Unfortunately, because the court system is not set up to properly handle the superior court probation violations, probation officers are left spending a week of their time in a courtroom which takes time away from seeing probationers. In addition, do you know that you are required to make home contacts with your probationers which also takes away from office time? So, you average how how many inviduals you would be able to see but that isn't accurate. In addition, policy mandates that a community officer must meet with each probationer every month (every 3 mos. if their case is impeccable which is very rare) and an intermediate officer is to meet with their probationer 2x a month. So that kind of throws your scheduling out the window. In addition, I for one was aware of the salary before I applied for the position, however, I was not aware of the extremely high turnover and high caseloads, I myself currently supervise 119 individuals, a lot less than the 70 you mentioned, but thanks for making an uneducated guess at why I chose this profession.

Soapbxking

January 25, 2009 - 8:34 pm EST

Paul J. With all due respect You are absolutely without knowledge of this subject. First of all, yes, we know what the pay scale is coming in and we also know what the workload should be! With that said, due to officers leaving, those workloads have become enormous!! The article states 70 probationers for every officer, but I can tell you it is much more than that at this time. Secondly, all probationers are not alike. You stated that you have 1.6 hours each etc etc. Some probationers have to be seen 1-2 times per week depending on the case. I personally must see roughly 30+ persons in the field each week, not to mention the number I bring into the office. These are simply home contacts, this does not include warrantless searches, drug screens, talking with the family, arrests(which result in hours spent in the jail processing-which obviously takes time away from other offenders), and training days just to name a few. Countless hours each month are spent in a courtroom waiting to complete violation hearings. Trust me when I tell you that probation officers in Guilford County do NOT sit around twidling their thumbs. We are very hard working people who wear many different hats and provide this county and the state with a much needed and seldom praised service. I will end with this. Please in the future research the subject before passing judgment.

tjstammy

January 27, 2009 - 8:17 am EST

In response to Paul J,
First of all you are leaving out alot of duties that are required by probation officer to be included in that 1.6 hours. What about hours and days sitting in court waiting to hear one probation violation? What about a having to go track down and arrest offenders and spending hours at the jail waiting for them to be processed? What about updating all reports that are constantly ran, which include about 7 different updates a day on different offenders. What about completed mod orders and orders for arrest and spending time at the court house trying to get them signed by a judge? What about all in service training and meetings that are mandatory? What about time spend talking with care providers and setting up treatment through dart cherry, ads, etc... that requires a great deal of time just trying to get offenders into different programs. What about taking the time to go get offenders and take them to and from home as well as to different job interviews because they have no transportation? What about the endless number of phone calls that come in daily to probation officers from there offenders taking up even more of an officers time? What about going to the many different prisons to parole offenders and take them to get id''s made, as well as transporting them home? There is soooo much more involved with being a probation officer that you think, so ya might want to do some research on your own before making such a general statement!

Daily reader

January 25, 2009 - 7:57 pm EST

The New Irving Park news letter has been dominated for the past few months concerning a person who currently has 4 felony warrants and almost 2 dozen felonies on the docket....and he is on probation. Can the probation office do anything? No.

graddec99

January 26, 2009 - 1:45 pm EST

Well, this is one of the first article that does a clear representation of probation. I agree with the officer from Guilford county, the one who wrote "overworked, underpaid". When I was a community officer, I had 164 at one time due to vacancies. It was very hard to schedule 164 people once a month, plus home contacts, plus court, plus opus, plus alerts, plus risk needs assessments, and whatever else came in between. There have been many of times, where I had to work over just to be halfway caught up. And of course, there are no rewards for working over, no "good job, well done," All you get is about 6 more cases out of court for one day as a rewards. When I first started, you had the same opus screens to do, the same paperwork, but now we have a 45 minutes risk assessment that we have to judge how well they are going to do on probation, after meeting with them for 20 minutes. I remember when an office visit took about 15 minutes, which was a thorough visit. Since I am now an Intermediate Officer, it takes about 30-45 minutes to cover everything, and that is if they are able to use the bathroom to be drug tested. If not, you wait, more and more time. Yes, this is my job and yes it does have some benefits. But there is alot more paperwork now required. Also, you have to hold these criminal's hands. We have to call community service to get their appt, we have to call treatment agencies to get their appt, we, we, we. WHERE IS THE RESPONSIBILITY ??? It should be on the ones who get in trouble. Not the officers, we already have enough on our plate.

truthprevails

January 27, 2009 - 9:12 am EST

I wish the reporter of this article would have spoken with actual officers or former officers who could be open and honest and free with their comments as to what is REALLY going on with the Probation Department without of retaliation. Every article I read always involves the reporters talking to management, who of course is going to tell the stories the way management wants the public to believe. Whrn actuality, the stories aren't true and are biased. Prison guards are waaaay underpaid and have a dangerous job as well but you see stories about them.Once Probation gets rid of the dead weight in management, starting with Roselyn Powell, you will have better employee morale and officers who will stay and be more productive because are in a better work environment. She should have packed up belongings when her best friend Robert Guy was forced out by Gov. Perdue. They are two in the same. She's laying low right now because she's job scared but will be back in full force once the smoke clears. She is wicked, vindictive,retaliatorial and VERY racist. She has forced out numerous employees simply because they stood their ground and spoke up for themselves. That's why you can tell that the comments from current employees are carefully written because they are scared of her retaliation.Officers can't speak up so they continue to work in fear and soon leave their positions. This is a big reason for the constant turnover, truth be told.

Ryan Seals

January 27, 2009 - 5:31 pm EST

Truth,

Thanks for the comment. Talking to probation officers out on the street is an aspect of the story I wish I could have done but wasn't able to make happen in the time frame I was working with to get published. The story originally started out as a daily and made it to a Sunday piece rather quickly. It's something I'm considering for a follow up.

Ryan Seals

January 27, 2009 - 5:35 pm EST

Also, if there are any probation officers reading this and are willing to talk to me on the record. Call me 373-7077, I'd love to hear more about your experiences.

lovelylady

January 27, 2009 - 11:26 am EST

Hello, and I appreciate all of the comments on the article written on Sunday. Most of the folks who have commented with the exception of Paul J, knows what it is like to be an officer in Guilford. I too, feel that it is about time attention is brought to the intergity and work that an probation officer does. However, the article statistically is incorrect with their numbers. Last I heard community officers have well over 120 cases, and intermediate cases have over 80. Well, I feel that there is going to be some changes in the 2009 year and only time will tell how much more season officers will be here to supervise and protect the communities. That is another factor, it costs much more money to send probation officers to training for a month, then to keep season ones and give them due raises.

Ryan Seals

January 27, 2009 - 5:33 pm EST

The figure used - a near 70 cases per officer is based on averages dividing the no. of probationers by the no. of officers. That total comes to 68.8 cases.

I understand that some officers may have more or less than that figure - but for the purpose of this piece that's the figure I went with. Feel free to call me though, I'd love to hear more about the officers with 120 plus cases. 373-7077.

DoubleSecretProbation

January 28, 2009 - 4:41 pm EST

Mr. Seals. Officers cannot respond to you on the record for fear of reprisals. They fear losing their jobs and/or simply being singled out.. I can, however, tell you that the number of cases is much higher than reported as your number of officers are possibly just positions some of which are vacant at this time.

graddec99

January 29, 2009 - 8:08 am EST

I would love to talk to you Mr. Seals. But we have to follow policy and that is we can not talk to any news reporter, everything has to be directed to the Judical District Manager. You see, this is another thing that the public doesnt know, we have to follow policy, but policy is only followed by higher ups when they want to follow it. I know for a fact, I had 164 cases at one time for a community officer due to vacancies. It was hard to stay above water, long hours, stress, etc. You could not juggle it all, somethings got put on the back burner, hoping that things would not explode with those cases. I agree that we are in the media, I agree that some officers do more than others, but also, I can say for most, we work very hard in what we do considering the heavy workload. Like I said earlier, I would like to talk to news reporters or media but I we would get into trouble. All I say is, just feed off these comments, because they are straight from probation officers, as I am as well.

graddec99

January 29, 2009 - 8:52 am EST

This was a good article about us, just wanted you to know that.

Ryan Seals

March 13, 2009 - 1:02 pm EDT

Thanks, and I understand your situation about not being able to speak out. I hadn't checked the comments on this story in quite a while. But it looks like the governor is instituting some plans to fix some of the probation system. Hopefully it can make a difference.

getoverit09

March 13, 2009 - 2:37 pm EDT

You know what I would like for everyone to see another side of this issue that has not been mentioned. Here we are talking about all the money spent, what duties people perform, etc. I personally had to deal with Gary McCluskey and let me say fact number one. These people are not trying to "help" anyone so that they may have a better life! This man made my life a living hell and I pray for myself and for him because he changed my families life forever and not in a good way. I know it is not right to have such bad feelings but this man had the opportunity to "help" my family and did absolutely opposite! I made numerous complaints and nothing was ever done and I see he is now a "District Manager"! Seeing this atricle just brought back all the feelings and a very difficult time. My husband of 6 years which I have been with going on 14 years was under Mr. McCluskey. First of all my husbnad should have never been, but that in it's self is a whole other story. We moved to NC and all this happened shortly after we got here and it was like we had moved to some foreign land. I honestly thought it was a joke or a dream, but no it was so real! Make a long story short. We tried to explain to McCluskey the situation and gave him numerous numbers of Detectives, sheriff deputies, policeman that he could talk to to let them know how my husband should have never been on probation to begin with, But he never ever wanted to hear us out. He treated us like "oh here we go again, your one of the innocent wrongfully convicted" He would show up at our house everytime he knew we were sitting down to have dinner. I asked if he could chose a different time maybe 30min. earlier, 30 minutes later. Nope... he was just a jerk and treated us like we were some low down dirty people. He was very rude and hasty towards us and our children which were very small at the time. I was never the one that had to deal with him legally but my husband did so therefore I had to tolerate him. He is not a man that cares about helping these people become "productive citizens" I never in a million years thought my husband and I would have to go through what we did. It was a nightmare and it will be with us forever. My husband was an honor roll student throught out all his years in school, he was the best in sports in our town during our years in school, the oldest of 5 children which he basically took care of on his own. Everyone one is our hometown including the local policeman could not beleive the whole ordeal we found ourselves in. They all told us it will be okay, gave us advice and things ended up not being okay. Thank you Mr. McCluskey for being such a jerk! You know the things you have done and you can think your getting away with your actions, your words, your hatefulness but guess what...the real judge on this earth God and one day you'll stand before him and it will be your turn... good luck!

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